What happens to your car with cash for clunkers....

[pepsi71ocean]

I was hanging at the local ford dealership and they gave me a call with a load of clunkers ripe for the junk yard and they let me into the shop to watch this strange phonomon about these 95 dodge rams.


They had gotten in a 95 Ram 4x4 with either a 318 or 360 as a Cash for Clunker trade. We drained the oil, and put in this cleansing fluid in it to clean out all of the oil and what not, it basically power washes the motor. Then the head mechanic cut a wooden down and stuck it to the pedal and we ran the truck at the 3,000 RPMs for over an hour before it finally blew.

When it finally seized some hour and 40 mins later it went quietly and wasn't quick, she slowly slowed down till she finally just stopped. must have taken her 5 mins to go from 3,000 to 0.

We then went and did a GMC Safari, it went down in 15 mins flat. really quickly, it went from 3,000 rpm to 0 in about 2 seconds, The D-100, V-6 went down is 45 mins, and that was a lot longer then the 33 mins for the Ford 4.6L F-150 i think it was a 99 or 98

I hear they will be euthanize a couple of old 7.3 power strokes and 6.0 duramaxes tomorrow, not sure i'll get the load but i told them ide show up to watch it and see, i'll give a report on it later tomorrow when i get back.

So i loaded up my 5th wheeler, and towed all 4 to the junk yard in Camden. Borrowed my dad's 08 3500 for the tow, go i love that sirus radio.

I guess what pisses me off is that alot of these older trucks and cars can be salvaged and gutted for parts. Instead the Obama administration regulates that they must be killed and crushed withing 90 days.

OH and i forgot to mention that the motor must remain in the truck at all time :(

[twilyth]

Camden? Are you in NJ?

That's pretty amazing - about the engines running without oil. I've heard you can do something similar if you treat an engine with PTFE (teflon, like in slick lube).

It does seem like a waste, but it was the same sort of thing they did in the 30's where they bulldozed houses. Demand is demand regardless of how it it created and stimulating the auto industry is an excellent way to get money into the economy in way that it will be spent - as opposed to the trillions just sitting in excess bank reserves.

[pepsi71ocean]

Camden? Are you in NJ?

That's pretty amazing - about the engines running without oil. I've heard you can do something similar if you treat an engine with PTFE (teflon, like in slick lube).

It does seem like a waste, but it was the same sort of thing they did in the 30's where they bulldozed houses. Demand is demand regardless of how it it created and stimulating the auto industry is an excellent way to get money into the economy in way that it will be spent - as opposed to the trillions just sitting in excess bank reserves.

Yea, out by atlantic city area. Wherte do you hang in this arm-pit of a state:p

I know, but imagine all of the engines that would be in working order, i my self have an order out at all the local dealerships for a 5.9L Cummins, just in case my Cummins 53 ever does crack(which i highly doubt givent the modding and precautions i put into it), then again if i find a mexican block i'll tune the truck up to 425HP 900lbs of torque:D, stick a Goeand Transmission in it and i'll be happy with my new tow rig.:)

[twilyth]

I'm near New Brunswick - just across the Raritan river - Exit 9 for people who know the NJ Turnpike.

Parts of the state are awful, but at least you've got the pine barrens down where you are. And AC was doing pretty well for a while. OK, a few blocks past the casinos and it was still a pit, but the boardwalk was nice. And it's a short drive for you to Cape May or Seaside right? Those are both beautiful.

My area is very suburban. It used to be mainly farmland but we still get a fair amount of wild life. I've even seen a couple falcons in my back yard from time to time.

So when are you going to slap an NOS injector on that bad boy? Yeee-haaaa!

[JC316]

Yep, it's a damn shame. At least with the Texas Air Check, they can sell parts off the car in a junkyard, just not the block.

[FordGT90Concept]

I guess what pisses me off is that alot of these older trucks and cars can be salvaged and gutted for parts. Instead the Obama administration regulates that they must be killed and crushed withing 90 days.
Cash for Clunkers, by all accounts, failed. It was supposed to get money into Detroit to help out Chrysler and GM yet, Toyota got most of the sales.

The straight-to-scrap policy is not clean for the environment.

The majority of people that bought these new cars with a clunker most likely shouldn't have due to financial reasons.

The fuel mileage requirements were too weak although most that did trade in did get about 5 mpg better.

Never mind the billions of taxpayer dollars that went to achieve nothing except buffer Toyota's bottomline.

[pepsi71ocean]

it was a piss contest for the most part, the only good news was that if you had a 1 ton diesels you could only trade for the equivalent which was a new 1 ton diesel, shame that the mileage dropped as you get newer in truck years.

[Wile E]

Supposedly, you can use Coca-Cola as an engine lubricant in an emergency. You should tell them to try it. :D

[Steevo]

So the dodge had such loose mains and rods that the water was able to lubricate it?

[pepsi71ocean]

So the dodge had such loose mains and rods that the water was able to lubricate it?

Na the 318 was a very well built motor, it has been around since the 1960's, by the time it came to 95 they were reliable motors, its just the trannys sucked.

i think the rods were fine, the pistons melted to the walls though, well i think 3 or 4 of them did. because you could tell it was loosing compression and the scraping noise was just disheartening.


Can't wait to go back and see the powerjoke and duramax tomorrow.


Ide feel happy to see a shitty power joke go, i hated working on those 7.3's

[twilyth]

i think the rods were fine, the pistons melted to the walls though, well i think 3 or 4 of them did. because you could tell it was loosing compression and the scraping noise was just disheartening.

Oh man. Just the thought makes me cringe. There ought to be a way to euthanize the engines without having to torture them to death.

Barbaric. :eek:

[Wile E]

Na the 318 was a very well built motor, it has been around since the 1960's, by the time it came to 95 they were reliable motors, its just the trannys sucked.

i think the rods were fine, the pistons melted to the walls though, well i think 3 or 4 of them did. because you could tell it was loosing compression and the scraping noise was just disheartening.


Can't wait to go back and see the powerjoke and duramax tomorrow.


Ide feel happy to see a shitty power joke go, i hated working on those 7.3's
No, actually the 318's in their trucks from the 90's to the early 2000's were horrible. Weren't reliable at all. They had the lowest reliability of all of their truck engines of that time period. I can't tell you how many 50,000 mile, fully and properly maintained, 318 bottom ends I had to replace in those days.

Like I said in the other threads, Chrysler products kept our garage in business.

[pepsi71ocean]

The old 318 was around since the late 60's early 70's and has been modified and improved since then up till the very end with the 5.2L Magnums. After they eliminated the line I don't think the new motors have been as good. For example, I have read how many RAMs with the 4.7 in the 3rd gens keep blowing head gaskets. Here is my word of advice on the newer Dodge stuff, avoid anything with a .7 in the size. 2.7, 3.7, 4.7 and the first year 5.7 are all garbage IMO. The Dodge trannies get a bad rap. Most of the failures can be traced back to that stupid brass check valve in the cooler line, not usin Mopar fluid and too tall a tire with 3.21 or 3.55 gears.

IMO, we had alot of ford stuff in our shop, i can think of alot of ford and gm products that kept us in business.

But we always seemed to have dodge neon's and the dodge cars often.

In either case, i was the head truck mechanic for the diesels, god i hated the powerstrokes, i can't tell you how many fuel rails ive replaced, where we had to literally tear the motor apart, because its all cram pt as hell.

[Steevo]

ford pooperstroke, run ATF every other oil change for the last 200 miles.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyAwFw0eXwE&feature=related



Here. Water with a detergent is at least a bit of a lubricant. This is not, this is just insanity.

[Wile E]

The old 318 was around since the late 60's early 70's and has been modified and improved since then up till the very end with the 5.2L Magnums. After they eliminated the line I don't think the new motors have been as good. For example, I have read how many RAMs with the 4.7 in the 3rd gens keep blowing head gaskets. Here is my word of advice on the newer Dodge stuff, avoid anything with a .7 in the size. 2.7, 3.7, 4.7 and the first year 5.7 are all garbage IMO. The Dodge trannies get a bad rap. Most of the failures can be traced back to that stupid brass check valve in the cooler line, not usin Mopar fluid and too tall a tire with 3.21 or 3.55 gears.

IMO, we had alot of ford stuff in our shop, i can think of alot of ford and gm products that kept us in business.

But we always seemed to have dodge neon's and the dodge cars often.

In either case, i was the head truck mechanic for the diesels, god i hated the powerstrokes, i can't tell you how many fuel rails ive replaced, where we had to literally tear the motor apart, because its all cram pt as hell.

Ford has always been hard to work on. They are designed with assembly from the factory in mind, not with servicing in mind.

[pepsi71ocean]

Ford has always been hard to work on. They are designed with assembly from the factory in mind, not with servicing in mind.

i know, we have the front end apart on my buddies F-450, and now were finding more rust on his truck then is on my dodge, its hilarious...


but seriously, after 10 years i have had 1 crack in my brake system, 6 months ago my buddies F-450 had 3, and his was an 05(i believe)


im starting to think he got a lemon truck, 3 powerjokes, brakes, rust belt, bad front axle, the list goes on.....

[Steevo]

I have a 94 Oldsmobile Achiva (its my drive to work car) with 200+K miles and had to replace.......



nothing but common wear items, tires, brakes, rotors, wipers, oil and filters, etc....


I need a new ABS sensor as a rock got wedged between the sensor and the tooth ring and cracked the face, and water ingress finally killed it. Still hits 60PSI (oil pressure limit) when cold, and runs 40 PSI all the rest of the time, and I believe i have a couple injectors that are leaky. Other than that I drive it a couple years or 12,000 miles between oil changes, change my snow to summer tires and rims and laugh at people paying for a big truck, for the poor fuel economy, adn get irate at the idiots crossign three lanes of traffic to save .03 per gallon. I swear the next one who does it is getting hit, I won't stop.

[1Kurgan1]

I watched a video on streetfire of a nice mid 80's L98 Vette get junked, even had a targa top, person who clunked that should be shot.

[pepsi71ocean]

I need a new ABS sensor as a rock got wedged between the sensor and the tooth ring and cracked the face, and water ingress finally killed it. Still hits 60PSI (oil pressure limit) when cold, and runs 40 PSI all the rest of the time, and I believe i have a couple injectors that are leaky. Other than that I drive it a couple years or 12,000 miles between oil changes, change my snow to summer tires and rims and laugh at people paying for a big truck, for the poor fuel economy, adn get irate at the idiots crossign three lanes of traffic to save .03 per gallon. I swear the next one who does it is getting hit, I won't stop.

I agree, 110%, i hate it when people drive ineffiecent diuesel trucks, i don't care if you powrjoke has 500HP, or that your 1/4 mile time is 14seconds, your still going to get 8mpg

why is it that my cummins powered truck gets 18-20, when all of my buddies get between 8-10mpg......This is what pisses me off, and why i agree with you.


That and i hate the poeple who cut you off when your towing a big load and they just think i can stop on a dime PEOPLE I CAN'T STOP IN A FUCKING DIME WHILE TOWING A 16,000LBS TRAILER GOD@!

[JC316]

I watched a video on streetfire of a nice mid 80's L98 Vette get junked, even had a targa top, person who clunked that should be shot.

:mad: Oh, that guy needs to be shot, resurrected, then shot again.



That and i hate the poeple who cut you off when your towing a big load and they just think i can stop on a dime PEOPLE I CAN'T STOP IN A FUCKING DIME WHILE TOWING A 16,000LBS TRAILER GOD@!

Yep, I cussed several people yesterday for that very thing. Was towing a Toyota Corolla in rush hour and people would just whip over in front of me, then slam on the brakes. I came VERY close to ass ending a couple of people.

[Wile E]

I agree, 110%, i hate it when people drive ineffiecent diuesel trucks, i don't care if you powrjoke has 500HP, or that your 1/4 mile time is 14seconds, your still going to get 8mpg

why is it that my cummins powered truck gets 18-20, when all of my buddies get between 8-10mpg......This is what pisses me off, and why i agree with you.


That and i hate the poeple who cut you off when your towing a big load and they just think i can stop on a dime PEOPLE I CAN'T STOP IN A FUCKING DIME WHILE TOWING A 16,000LBS TRAILER GOD@!

You shouldn't be agreeing with him. Your truck still qualifies under his statement.

And screw you and your fuel "economy". I'd rather have the 14sec ET over your 18mpg, tyvm.

[1Kurgan1]

You shouldn't be agreeing with him. Your truck still qualifies under his statement.

And screw you and your fuel "economy". I'd rather have the 14sec ET over your 18mpg, tyvm.

Meh why not have 13 second ET and get 22 city 32 freeway, I'm hoping that maintains after my tax time fun next year and hopefully 12's.

[Steevo]

20ish around town, and the occasional jaunt on the interstate nets me 30+ and it will still bark as set of Traction TA's on dry clean pavement. Better fuel mileage than the Celica.


A guy I know bought a old minivan that he drove around instead of his truck, he cut the back seats out, and put blocks in the springs, it gets better fuel mieage overloaded than his truck did empty. He welded a plate under the engine and transmission and takes it through fields and offroad where his truck used to go, put on trailer tires so he gets no flats......works better than his truck. If he could put a bigger hitch on it he would use it tow with. He foudn a way to save money, and didn't ahve to complain about the fuel prices unlike a.......


DTR "Dumb Texas Redneck" Hur hur, look at my big truck.......damn fuel prices, its better than yours, got a nigger for a president, wut you drive that jap crap for, I cam do wut I want I'm americun.....dur



Bring on the $5.00 a gallon fuel

[JC316]

20ish around town, and the occasional jaunt on the interstate nets me 30+ and it will still bark as set of Traction TA's on dry clean pavement. Better fuel mileage than the Celica.


A guy I know bought a old minivan that he drove around instead of his truck, he cut the back seats out, and put blocks in the springs, it gets better fuel mieage overloaded than his truck did empty. He welded a plate under the engine and transmission and takes it through fields and offroad where his truck used to go, put on trailer tires so he gets no flats......works better than his truck. If he could put a bigger hitch on it he would use it tow with. He foudn a way to save money, and didn't ahve to complain about the fuel prices unlike a.......


DTR "Dumb Texas Redneck" Hur hur, look at my big truck.......damn fuel prices, its better than yours, got a nigger for a president, wut you drive that jap crap for, I cam do wut I want I'm americun.....dur



Bring on the $5.00 a gallon fuel

That Olds have the 4 cylinder or the 6 cylinder? If it's the 6 I know what you mean, I just bought a 3.1L Grand Am and that sucker can give my N* caddy a run for it's money power wise.

It amazes me at how the rest of the world looks at us Texans.... When was the last time you were in Texas Steevo? Most of the trucks here are used for business purposes. Not as many as you would think are on the road these days.

[FordGT90Concept]

Bring on the $5.00 a gallon fuel
Do you not remember what happened in Spring 2008? Milk prices shot through the roof as did corn. Almost all commodities you find at a grocery store will climb in price substantially. Nevermind the cost of getting to and from work and any industry that relies heavily on transportation will see a very large hike in rates.

It will happen sooner or later but we are so not ready now.

[Steevo]

High fuel prices will mean people will buy smaller cars, less pollution, it also means ethenol will be feasable to produce, thus driving up the price of corn, people will not stuff themselves untill they are fat asses, and since they can only afford a smaller car they will try and lose weight, farmers will make money, driving a industry that is almost wholly domestic, producing jobs in the US, those people with new shiny jobs will buy shiny new cars, and shiny new toys. Milk prices going up will mean all the dairies who are loseing money through the nose and being floated only by their banks and the small reserves will start to make money, again driving the economy as they purchase new thigns, and give new jobs. Oil prices being highe r will cause the domestic wells to start producing again as well, causing more people to work, it will also make transporting things costlier and thus encourage local and domestic growth. So the local veggie farmers, dairies, corn, wheat, hay, will all directly benefit, as will the US economy.


Currently it is cheaper to import sugar and other products from Mexico, who import it from other countries, than it is to make it. However what is the actual cost of you and I paying for these goods, and the taxes associated to float someone living on welfare and unemployment? Really we benefit ourselves and our neighbours by paying a bit more. So for the few cents cheaper, you are costing someone hundreds of thousands of dollars that will have to be recouped somewhere, and all these "devil nigger president" cash outlays to keep domestic companies going are where that is coming from. So we have shot ourselves in teh foot with a AK-47 by allowing large companies to do what they want, so long as the prices are cheap for us right now. I know these things as I work with the Agriculture, have directly seen the rise and fall of farmers, and what causes it.


I am prepared to pay more for milk, corn chips, beef, and other things. I am prepared to pay more for gasoline as it drives the US economy. I am prepared to be part of the solution.



Are you?



That Olds have the 4 cylinder or the 6 cylinder? If it's the 6 I know what you mean, I just bought a 3.1L Grand Am and that sucker can give my N* caddy a run for it's money power wise.

It amazes me at how the rest of the world looks at us Texans.... When was the last time you were in Texas Steevo? Most of the trucks here are used for business purposes. Not as many as you would think are on the road these days.


3.1 with ported intake, better exhaust, CAI, light weight alloy rims, a couple resistor mods....



I know it isn't all Texans, but the majority of Texans we have here now love to tell us how much better Texas is than Colorao, despite their being forced to move, lack of jobs. They need to go back home and stop crapping on my state and polluting with their shitty diesels.


Thus we have a song......to be sang on the toilet


Here I sit
My Cheeks a flexin
Giving birth
To another
Texan

I know alot of good Texans, and alot of shitty people from all over. Its just the DTR's that stand out, parking their truck across two spaces, driving around for five minutes to find a closer parking space, driving like shit, telling me how great everything is there. So I like to tell them this. Its great in Texas that you can pass on the right, here you can't. Wonderful that you state is so big, ours isn't. Fantastic that you have beaches, we have mountains. Since Texas is so great and awe inspiring, go the fuck home.

[Wile E]

High fuel prices will mean people will buy smaller cars, less pollution, it also means ethenol will be feasable to produce, thus driving up the price of corn, people will not stuff themselves untill they are fat asses, and since they can only afford a smaller car they will try and lose weight, farmers will make money, driving a industry that is almost wholly domestic, producing jobs in the US, those people with new shiny jobs will buy shiny new cars, and shiny new toys. Milk prices going up will mean all the dairies who are loseing money through the nose and being floated only by their banks and the small reserves will start to make money, again driving the economy as they purchase new thigns, and give new jobs. Oil prices being highe r will cause the domestic wells to start producing again as well, causing more people to work, it will also make transporting things costlier and thus encourage local and domestic growth. So the local veggie farmers, dairies, corn, wheat, hay, will all directly benefit, as will the US economy.


Currently it is cheaper to import sugar and other products from Mexico, who import it from other countries, than it is to make it. However what is the actual cost of you and I paying for these goods, and the taxes associated to float someone living on welfare and unemployment? Really we benefit ourselves and our neighbours by paying a bit more. So for the few cents cheaper, you are costing someone hundreds of thousands of dollars that will have to be recouped somewhere, and all these "devil nigger president" cash outlays to keep domestic companies going are where that is coming from. So we have shot ourselves in teh foot with a AK-47 by allowing large companies to do what they want, so long as the prices are cheap for us right now. I know these things as I work with the Agriculture, have directly seen the rise and fall of farmers, and what causes it.


I am prepared to pay more for milk, corn chips, beef, and other things. I am prepared to pay more for gasoline as it drives the US economy. I am prepared to be part of the solution.



Are you?






3.1 with ported intake, better exhaust, CAI, light weight alloy rims, a couple resistor mods....



I know it isn't all Texans, but the majority of Texans we have here now love to tell us how much better Texas is than Colorao, despite their being forced to move, lack of jobs. They need to go back home and stop crapping on my state and polluting with their shitty diesels.


Thus we have a song......to be sang on the toilet


Here I sit
My Cheeks a flexin
Giving birth
To another
Texan

I know alot of good Texans, and alot of shitty people from all over. Its just the DTR's that stand out, parking their truck across two spaces, driving around for five minutes to find a closer parking space, driving like shit, telling me how great everything is there. So I like to tell them this. Its great in Texas that you can pass on the right, here you can't. Wonderful that you state is so big, ours isn't. Fantastic that you have beaches, we have mountains. Since Texas is so great and awe inspiring, go the fuck home.
Bullshit. The economy suffers every time gas prices go up. It doesn't help anyone but the oil industry. History has already proven that time and time again.

[From_Nowhere]

Bullshit. The economy suffers every time gas prices go up. It doesn't help anyone but the oil industry. History has already proven that time and time again.

I agree because high gas prices are definitely not helping me.

[pepsi71ocean]

I'm near New Brunswick - just across the Raritan river - Exit 9 for people who know the NJ Turnpike.

Parts of the state are awful, but at least you've got the pine barrens down where you are. And AC was doing pretty well for a while. OK, a few blocks past the casinos and it was still a pit, but the boardwalk was nice. And it's a short drive for you to Cape May or Seaside right? Those are both beautiful.

My area is very suburban. It used to be mainly farmland but we still get a fair amount of wild life. I've even seen a couple falcons in my back yard from time to time.

So when are you going to slap an NOS injector on that bad boy? Yeee-haaaa!

yea were right in the middle its about an hour either way.

na, no nos, but maybe a monter VP44, a Air Dogg 150, 275hp cummins RV injectors, (or those 370HP marine injectors :D), APR head studs, catapiller turbo 5 inch turbo back exhaust, leave the resonator, then

goerand broths t47re, 500hp1,000lbs of torque, triple disk tc, towing valve body, kevlar bands, 8 disk clutch pack.....

the list goes on and on, LOL


Supposedly, you can use Coca-Cola as an engine lubricant in an emergency. You should tell them to try it. :D

i did bring it up, but they said i could use a lawn mower to try it out, LOL

You shouldn't be agreeing with him. Your truck still qualifies under his statement.

And screw you and your fuel "economy". I'd rather have the 14sec ET over your 18mpg, tyvm.

and how does my truck compare to fords and chevys that get 8mpg? i have a 17 second 1/4 mile time at the track.

Im happy i get the mileage i do, because it is what is getting me the jobs, because i can quote lower then the competition. And that is what counts

[Solaris17]

Oh man. Just the thought makes me cringe. There ought to be a way to euthanize the engines without having to torture them to death.

Barbaric. :eek:

i know it makes me sad too but ALAS their is a way drill a hole in the block. engine becomes useless.

[twilyth]

na, no nos, but maybe a monter VP44, a Air Dogg 150, 275hp cummins RV injectors, (or those 370HP marine injectors :D), APR head studs, catapiller turbo 5 inch turbo back exhaust, leave the resonator, then

goerand broths t47re, 500hp1,000lbs of torque, triple disk tc, towing valve body, kevlar bands, 8 disk clutch pack.....
You know, I ran that shit through the Google translator and it sent me to this site that organizes "interventions" for gearheads. :D :D :D

[JC316]

High fuel prices will mean people will buy smaller cars, less pollution, it also means ethenol will be feasable to produce, thus driving up the price of corn, people will not stuff themselves untill they are fat asses, and since they can only afford a smaller car they will try and lose weight, farmers will make money, driving a industry that is almost wholly domestic, producing jobs in the US, those people with new shiny jobs will buy shiny new cars, and shiny new toys. Milk prices going up will mean all the dairies who are loseing money through the nose and being floated only by their banks and the small reserves will start to make money, again driving the economy as they purchase new thigns, and give new jobs. Oil prices being highe r will cause the domestic wells to start producing again as well, causing more people to work, it will also make transporting things costlier and thus encourage local and domestic growth. So the local veggie farmers, dairies, corn, wheat, hay, will all directly benefit, as will the US economy.


Currently it is cheaper to import sugar and other products from Mexico, who import it from other countries, than it is to make it. However what is the actual cost of you and I paying for these goods, and the taxes associated to float someone living on welfare and unemployment? Really we benefit ourselves and our neighbours by paying a bit more. So for the few cents cheaper, you are costing someone hundreds of thousands of dollars that will have to be recouped somewhere, and all these "devil nigger president" cash outlays to keep domestic companies going are where that is coming from. So we have shot ourselves in teh foot with a AK-47 by allowing large companies to do what they want, so long as the prices are cheap for us right now. I know these things as I work with the Agriculture, have directly seen the rise and fall of farmers, and what causes it.


I am prepared to pay more for milk, corn chips, beef, and other things. I am prepared to pay more for gasoline as it drives the US economy. I am prepared to be part of the solution.



Are you?






3.1 with ported intake, better exhaust, CAI, light weight alloy rims, a couple resistor mods....



I know it isn't all Texans, but the majority of Texans we have here now love to tell us how much better Texas is than Colorao, despite their being forced to move, lack of jobs. They need to go back home and stop crapping on my state and polluting with their shitty diesels.


Thus we have a song......to be sang on the toilet


Here I sit
My Cheeks a flexin
Giving birth
To another
Texan

I know alot of good Texans, and alot of shitty people from all over. Its just the DTR's that stand out, parking their truck across two spaces, driving around for five minutes to find a closer parking space, driving like shit, telling me how great everything is there. So I like to tell them this. Its great in Texas that you can pass on the right, here you can't. Wonderful that you state is so big, ours isn't. Fantastic that you have beaches, we have mountains. Since Texas is so great and awe inspiring, go the fuck home.

Driving the economy is one thing, but what about the poverty level people working on minimum wage? What happens to them when it comes down to picking between gasoline to get to work, or food to eat? I know that you have a good job, but alot of people don't. When gas and food skyrockets, as well as everything else and then minimum wage rises by a mere fifty cents an hour, that makes it impossible to live.

Now, alot of people don't want to help themselves. I have personally seen the people begging for food because they blew their money on cigarettes and alcohol.

Watch the lower intake gasket on the 3.1L BTW, unless it was changed out when you put the ported intake on. They are notorious for leaking on the water channel side and getting water in the oil.

I have been to Colorado many times on vacation and I have to tell you that the majority of yall HATE us Texans. Just for having a Texas license plate, I have yelled at, told to fuck off and go back to Texas, get off your lakes, etc. What I tell them is that without our tourist money, your state might be in trouble. Go to any of the lakes in the summer and I can almost guarantee that it's 80% Texans fishing their.

Also, most Texans lay the DTR on alot thicker than they actually are for yoru benefit. I know that my sister's accent always got 1000% thicker when we went up there. Lets address your gripes from a Texan's point of view.

"Parking in two spaces" Unacceptable on any level, I fucking HATE it when people do this, but up there, the lack of room makes it tough to park. Spaces are too damn small and the aisles are too damn narrow.

"Driving around for another 5 minutes to get a closer space" That is because we can't breathe up there and those two spaces are like running a mile. You would do it here too, except for a shady spot when it's 105*F outside.

Everyone likes to brag about their home state, especially in a yankee state. When told to go home, that makes them all the more determined to piss you off.

[pepsi71ocean]

You know, I ran that shit through the Google translator and it sent me to this site that organizes "interventions" for gearheads. :D :D :D

my buddy and i tuned out a dodge 3500 to 625HP at 3,200RPM, and a whopping 770LBS of torque from 1475-2750:D, after we got that, we then set out and got the rredline up there...

We also, balanced his engine and got more HP out and raised the red line to about 4,200give or take a few hundred, that motor would scream. im not sure but i think we hit 1,500 or 1,600lbs of torque.

And it WAS NOT TWIN TURBOED:D:D:eek:


then again he could toss money around like it was nothing, LOL, had a 9 second 1/4 mile time, he would race fords and chev racing cars for fun:eek:

God i miss those days

[erocker]

@ the original question. All of the cards will be melted down and shipped of to China to build their cities and make glorious bombs and such.

[Wile E]

yea were right in the middle its about an hour either way.

na, no nos, but maybe a monter VP44, a Air Dogg 150, 275hp cummins RV injectors, (or those 370HP marine injectors :D), APR head studs, catapiller turbo 5 inch turbo back exhaust, leave the resonator, then

goerand broths t47re, 500hp1,000lbs of torque, triple disk tc, towing valve body, kevlar bands, 8 disk clutch pack.....

the list goes on and on, LOL




i did bring it up, but they said i could use a lawn mower to try it out, LOL



and how does my truck compare to fords and chevys that get 8mpg? i have a 17 second 1/4 mile time at the track.

Im happy i get the mileage i do, because it is what is getting me the jobs, because i can quote lower then the competition. And that is what counts

Read his statement again. You mileage in comparison to other trucks does not matter. ALL trucks are gas hogs by the standard he is implying. Your truck still qualifies as a gas hog, regardless of what the competition does.

[Steevo]

Driving the economy is one thing, but what about the poverty level people working on minimum wage? What happens to them when it comes down to picking between gasoline to get to work, or food to eat? I know that you have a good job, but alot of people don't. When gas and food skyrockets, as well as everything else and then minimum wage rises by a mere fifty cents an hour, that makes it impossible to live.

Now, alot of people don't want to help themselves. I have personally seen the people begging for food because they blew their money on cigarettes and alcohol.

Watch the lower intake gasket on the 3.1L BTW, unless it was changed out when you put the ported intake on. They are notorious for leaking on the water channel side and getting water in the oil.

I have been to Colorado many times on vacation and I have to tell you that the majority of yall HATE us Texans. Just for having a Texas license plate, I have yelled at, told to fuck off and go back to Texas, get off your lakes, etc. What I tell them is that without our tourist money, your state might be in trouble. Go to any of the lakes in the summer and I can almost guarantee that it's 80% Texans fishing their.

Also, most Texans lay the DTR on alot thicker than they actually are for yoru benefit. I know that my sister's accent always got 1000% thicker when we went up there. Lets address your gripes from a Texan's point of view.

"Parking in two spaces" Unacceptable on any level, I fucking HATE it when people do this, but up there, the lack of room makes it tough to park. Spaces are too damn small and the aisles are too damn narrow.

"Driving around for another 5 minutes to get a closer space" That is because we can't breathe up there and those two spaces are like running a mile. You would do it here too, except for a shady spot when it's 105*F outside.

Everyone likes to brag about their home state, especially in a yankee state. When told to go home, that makes them all the more determined to piss you off.

I used to live in Missouri, was born there. I know heat, and humidity it sucks. Sit in the shade and sweat to death.


Like I said, I know good people from Texas (one Ex was from there, damn hot) and shitheads from Colorado. I just get chapped at stupid pride, and horrible drivers.


As far as tourisim, ski towns are crap. They can have them. I prefer teh wilderness, and hate anyone who drives a 45' motorhome up the mountains, parks, closes the blinds and starts the genrator. You might just see me on the news as the guy who burned a RV park down. ;)

[DaMulta]

I wonder if they put prolong in it first if they could run for hours with no oil like the old commercals they used to show...