Is the flu shot a form of Gov control?

[mlee49]

So I'm begining to see some present dangers with the Gov's push for flu vaccinations. There seems to be a ton of flu/h1n1 articles lately from the CDC pushing every young and old person to receive vacination ASAP. The stress seems to lye with getting these shots immediately. Now the case for immediate shots are to curb the 'impact' of every flu season's death toll. I understand that saving one life makes it all worth while, but I have suspicions.
If you were a greedy gov in need of boosting itls economy, why not press a marginal cost vaccine that is taken readily in the millions? Is this pressure to push this 'must have' vaccine to millions of Americans underly governmental agenda's? Is the US gov fooling us all with a myth, or better yet scare tactic, as a form of economic gains? Does this constitute that our gov may be trying to gain control the people through fraudlent issues?

Do these thoughts have any validity? I'd like to hear some valide arguments and thoughts.

[MRCL]

In Switzerland, not even 0.5% (if I calculated right, its about 1500 infected vs over 7 million inhabitants) are infected, and the Governement here talks about epidemic and forced vaccinations, too. So yeah, scare tactics are possible, and I personally think they really are applied. And its effective, too.

[Wile E]

It's a scare tactic so the politicians involved can get kick backs from the pharmaceuticals involved.

[mlee49]

Ok so I dont sound like a wierded out conspiracy theorists.

I've never had a flu shot in my life and I've got'n sick but always recovered just fine. Granted the CDC is pushing for elderly and infants, but those are the easiest targets on our heartstring.

[Frick]

Think Equilibrium.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn296/daxhalo/Recommendations/Equilibrium.jpg

[MT Alex]

Fact is usually stranger than fiction when the government is concerned. It wouldn't be the first time that a problem was either created or capitalized upon for increased power/social control. My family won't be getting any shots. By the way, ionic silver kills viruses with no harmful side effects.

Sure good citizens, just line up and take the shots! The government wants to help and protect you!
http://img.techpowerup.org/091029/vforvendetta2.jpg

[jmcslob]

Actually they are saying anyone born Before 1950 need not get the Vaccine as they have already been exposed to this Virus's big Brother, The actual swine virus.

I think they are pushing the Vaccine because of it's ability to be spread through,air,touch,Bodily fluids and is spreading quite rapidly, something like 5x faster than normal Virus's or @least, that of known Virus's.

Yes I also believe it's a scare tactic, but for good reason as Vaccines are Cheaper than Hospital Stays.

The CDC is asking for all school age children to get the Vaccine, as that age group has Less of an Immune response to this type of Virus, and they are asking pregnant women to get it due to a lowered immune response which is a side effect of being pregnant.( I don't think it's ever a good idea for pregnant women to receive Vaccines)

The H1N1 Virus in it's self is not particularly all that bad for most people however it's the immune systems slow recovery that has the CDC worried most, as other Virus's can easily invade after.

Again it's always your choice as a free citizen to choose whether or not to receive the vaccine.

[MT Alex]

In case you haven't heard, the mass rushed vaccine program of 1976 didn't turn out so well. Here are some fun facts about the vaccine of today. Squalene anyone?

http://img.techpowerup.org/091030/Capture.jpg

[DanTheBanjoman]

They wasted over 100M euros on vaccinations here some months ago even though there is little to worry about. Fact is, more people die of the regular flu. Besides, an actual vaccin takes around 30 years to test, there is no other way to know long term side effects without waiting that long. (apart from time travel of course)
I love our pussy government, ignoring actual problems and wasting time and money on shit. Can't wait till the next elections.

[jmcslob]

They wasted over 100M euros on vaccinations here some months ago even though there is little to worry about. Fact is, more people die of the regular flu. Besides, an actual vaccin takes around 30 years to test, there is no other way to know long term side effects without waiting that long. (apart from time travel of course)
I love our pussy government, ignoring actual problems and wasting time and money on shit. Can't wait till the next elections.
They are using Health Care in General to cover up all the small Laws that are being passed..This vaccine is quite the story the world over..

By the time H1N1 passes there will be 30 new Laws here in the U.S.:rolleyes: It's true...I just happen to agree with what they are doing...But Shhhh don't tell the natives

[mlee49]

Think Equilibrium.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn296/daxhalo/Recommendations/Equilibrium.jpg

Frick,
You earned a thanks for bringing up Equilibrium. Excellent movie.

[Wile E]

They wasted over 100M euros on vaccinations here some months ago even though there is little to worry about. Fact is, more people die of the regular flu. Besides, an actual vaccin takes around 30 years to test, there is no other way to know long term side effects without waiting that long. (apart from time travel of course)
I love our pussy government, ignoring actual problems and wasting time and money on shit. Can't wait till the next elections.

Hmmmm, sounds strangely like us over here. Guess it's the same the world over. lol.

[FordGT90Concept]

Vaccinations are always a twisted issue. On one hand, you are subjecting people to a strain of something else to build up immunity. At the same time, the side effects can be worse than catching the damn thing (assuming the vaccine even works)...

I think vacinations should be avoided unless it is, in fact, a superbug with 50% or great mortality rates. If you are just going to get sick for a few days and less than 5% die from it, I say it is not worth vaccinating an entire populous.

[Deusxmachina]

I know someone who knows someone who works with the H1N1 vaccine. He says you wouldn't believe what's in it and recommends not to get it. YMMV, do as you will.

Around here, the news had a story recently about doctors asking people to not bring themselves or their kids in for minor flu things or H1N1 "checkups" since they are overloading the doctors, and the doctors aren't having enough time to deal with patients with real issues. The doctors said even if you do have H1N1, it's generally no big deal.

I dunno, when I've gotten the flu or something, I've stayed in bed, drank plenty of liquids, and caught up on my TV watching. That prescription has worked every time. Take two episodes of Highlander, Curb Your Enthusiasm, or Supernatural, and call me in the morning.

[JC316]

Fact is usually stranger than fiction when the government is concerned. It wouldn't be the first time that a problem was either created or capitalized upon for increased power/social control. My family won't be getting any shots. By the way, ionic silver kills viruses with no harmful side effects.

Sure good citizens, just line up and take the shots! The government wants to help and protect you!
http://img.techpowerup.org/091029/vforvendetta2.jpg

If taken in massive amounts, the silver can turn your skin a bluish tint, but yes, it will kill viruses.

On topic, there is no chance in hell that I am taking that vaccine. I can nearly guarantee that my doctor is going to push it, just like he tried with the regular flu shot and the pneumonia shot, but it's never gonna happen.

[FordGT90Concept]

About the only regular shot I'll agree to is tetanus boosters. They are much better than contracting tetanus.

[jmcslob]

I'm getting it....Nothing like Boosting the ol immune response....However i don't take antibiotics, unless administered by a DR....But then again i don't get infections that often and when I do my own natural bacteria normally works just fine...

[3991v]

About the only regular shot I'll agree to is tetanus boosters. They are much better than contracting tetanus.

This.(toast)

[jmcslob]

Uhm I think I got it so I changed my mind...I'm not going to get the shot now....as it would be pointless either way since my immune system is on Super Overdrive now

[mlee49]

Anyone notice that the Director of The Center for Disease Control ADMITED that the flu season has peaked and already passed, but still urges every child be vaccinated.

[T3hPwn3r3r]

My fearmongering parents demanded I get the shot, so I told them I would, but never did.

[Magibeg]

Anyone notice that the Director of The Center for Disease Control ADMITED that the flu season has peaked and already passed, but still urges every child be vaccinated.

It's because when dealing with strains of viruses it's always a good idea to build up some immunity to it.

Most people that are younger than the baby boomers haven't been exposed to an H1 strain yet.

Now that said if you don't get the shot that doesn't mean you're going to die if you catch the H1N1 strain.

[Deusxmachina]

A vaccine with uncertain short and longterm consequences? Sign me up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScGC7nFDxM

[Magibeg]

A vaccine with uncertain short and longterm consequences? Sign me up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScGC7nFDxM

On a side note however it may have not even been caused by the vaccine and might just be a fluke that it happened within 10 days of it. if you're passing out something to millions of people I'm sure that there will be negative things happening to some of them with or without the vaccine.

[FordGT90Concept]

A vaccine with uncertain short and longterm consequences? Sign me up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScGC7nFDxM
If this is to believed, it lists three ingredients (Monosodium Glutamate, Thimerosal, Polyoxidonium, that could lead to those symptoms (could attack the neurological system):
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13516797/H1N1-Vaccine-Ingredients


Mercury (Thimerosal) poisoning attacks the nervous system. It is unknown how many conditions of the brain mercury is responsible for.

[WhiteLotus]

Or we all need to man up and just get a cold.

How many vaccinations will it take for our immune system to be completely compromised and then we do get a nasty strain we are going to get fucked.

We rely too much on medicine and put no thanks on to our own bodies for keeping us alive.

[Magibeg]

Or we all need to man up and just get a cold.

How many vaccinations will it take for our immune system to be completely compromised and then we do get a nasty strain we are going to get fucked.

We rely too much on medicine and put no thanks on to our own bodies for keeping us alive.

Actually a vaccine helps to build your immune system by teaching it how to fight against new types of strains.

And in terms of mercury content it's very minimal.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169364.php

If mercury is that much of a concern you should probably stay away from tuna or any large fish as well.

[WhiteLotus]

I know what a vaccine does, was applying the statement broadly to all kinds of things. Mainly including the abomination that is Dettol.

[DonInKansas]

The one year I got a flu shot I was sick as a dog pretty much the whole winter. Never again.