P90X Workout

[Magibeg]

Was just wondering if there was anyone else on here breaking out some P90X action. It's been beating me up nearly everyday for a solid 6 months now but i have to admit there are good gains as far as strength, agility, flexibility, and overall health are concerned.

[MRCL]

Hm it sounds good, but for me, I couldn't do it, mainly because I lack the discipline to actually spend an hour everyday working out.

[jmcslob]

Yeah Internet forums and Fat asses seem to go together more than
Internet Forums and Tight asses...
That is unless it's the tight ass forums...
but then would it be about Cheap people or tight Asses and perky tits?

[MRCL]

Yeah Internet forums and Fat asses seem to go together more than
Internet Forums and Tight asses...
That is unless it's the tight ass forums...
but then would it be about Cheap people or tight Asses and perky tits?

I'm not a fatass you fatass(r)

[Jizzler]

The wife and I have been doing it for a month, good stuff.

We switched out Abs X for Abs 200 from the P90 series though. Need another month or so before we'll be able to do even half of the Ab X moves.

[Deusxmachina]

I mentioned it numerous times in the last big "help me lose weight" thread around here. Some people poo-pooed it. I don't think they've ever tried it.

I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say P90x might just be the greatest set of workout videos the world has ever seen.

[Magibeg]

I mentioned it numerous times in the last big "help me lose weight" thread around here. Some people poo-pooed it. I don't think they've ever tried it.

I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say P90x might just be the greatest set of workout videos the world has ever seen.

Well I've always been a fit guy, been exercising regularly for a good 6 years or so. When i started P90X i was really fit but boy does it work you! If i knew about that thread i would have backed you up :P

[paulieg]

Coming from an ex ACE and NSCA personal trainer and avid power lifter...I hate all of these trend workouts. I've watched You Tube videos of these classes with dumbass' doing jumping chin ups and that kind of crap. Exercises full of poor form, and never enough resistance to ever truly make the body stronger after the first few weeks of working out.

Don't get me wrong, I commend anyone who tries to do something positive with their body. However, the true formula has never changed. Get a fair amount of exercise doing something you enjoy several times per week. Lift weights 3-5x per week, working the entire body at some point. Push yourself a little and have good form. Eat reasonably. Try to get at least 6.5 hours of sleep. That's it. Really. With the dozens of clients I've had through the years, this ALWAYS worked. No trendy diet or exercise program needed. The ONLY exception was those clients who actually had thyroid issues.

The biggest failure of people trying to get fit is overthinking the process. Keep it simple, and you will be fit and strong for life.

[Deusxmachina]

and never enough resistance to ever truly make the body stronger after the first few weeks of working out.

Things like Pilates and yoga no good then since they use your body weight for resistance?

Don't think I'd call P90x a "trendy" workout. It's not Hip-Hop Abs or something.

Is Tony Horton not considered in-shape, or does he secretly do a different workout behind closed doors after teaching P90x classes?

[paulieg]

Things like Pilates and yoga no good then since they use your body weight for resistance?

Don't think I'd call P90x a "trendy" workout. It's not Hip-Hop Abs or something.

Is Tony Horton not considered in-shape, or does he secretly do a different workout behind closed doors after teaching P90x classes?

P90x is a trendy workout. I promise, in 5 years no one will remember what it is called. Is he in good shape? He appears to be lean. That's all I can tell. Is it because of just this specific workout? Doubt it. Look, I'm not saying that it's a terrible work out. It's just not a miracle, and some of the exercises are ridiculous, and taught with bad form. If you enjoy the workout, that's good. Just know that the basic formula is the same. Exercise in a way that is fun. Weight train with some intesity and proper form. Eat sensibly. Sleep. Drink plenty of water. Whatever you call it, that's all it takes.

Good shape is a relative term. My interpretation will be different than yours. I include significant and functional strength into my definition. Workouts like this (p90x/crossfit) will only allow you to gain strength to a limited extent. That is the problem with plyometrics. No matter how you do them, pushups of any kind will stop working. Hell, I do alligator pushups (very wide stance) with my daughter lying on my back as a warmup before I start a chest workout with iron.

I guess what aggravates me is people paying a ridiculous sum of money for videos or classes hoping that they have some new kind of fitness magic to them. Just follow the formula. It's virtually free.

Now that I've gone on a tyraid, everyone is going to think I'm like this power lifter. No, I'm not that extreme. Take a look at this video. It does have some truth to it, and is worth a good laugh...I've had these types of interactions...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nppzGV1U8y8

[FordGT90Concept]

Is Tony Horton not considered in-shape, or does he secretly do a different workout behind closed doors after teaching P90x classes?
People can look healthy on the outside and be half dead on the inside.


The greatest hurdle to getting into shape is motivation. If there is a will, there is a way.

[Deusxmachina]

P90x is a trendy workout. I promise, in 5 years no one will remember what it is called.

You said, "Exercise in a way that is fun." I suppose there is someone out there who finds jumping chin-ups fun.

Yes, the basics don't change, and a lot of people think there's a magic pill out there and is all they need (Ab roller?), but I sure do see a lot of people bashing P90x who have never seen the videos, much less done them. I think of them like most people and "power" yoga. "Oh, that looks easy." And then they try it and it kicks their ass.

Most importantly, if some kind of DVD helps people get off the couch when they otherwise wouldn't have, then it was probably worth the price right there. Heck, look at the customer reviews on Amazon. The DVDs must be doing at least something right.

Anyway, I think Tony looks pretty good for a 50-year-old. He's 45 or so in the DVDs.

When does that "trendy and won't be remembered in five years" start? Tony's "Power 90" came out in 2001, P90x came out in 2004, and it's been incredibly popular since then. Here we are, nearly six years after 2004, having a thread on it.

[Magibeg]

@paulie

Well it really depends on what your goals are when you're working out, if you're trying to be as strong as possible or if you have other goals in mind like greater endurance (which I know you're definitely well aware of given your background).

P90X is very demanding from a cardiovascular perspective. I'm not sure how much of P90X you've seen so far but it has you doing weight training 3 days per week as well as more cardio intensive workouts.

Given I'm on Phase 2 again (I've worked through it a few times) my week is: day 1: chest + shoulders + triceps (weight lifting) + ab ripper X
day 2: Plyometrics
day 3: Biceps and back (more weight lifting) + ab ripper X
day 4: Yoga (dislike this the most but I have seen an increase in balance and flexibility)
day 5: Legs and back (Use weights for this one too) + ab ripper x
day 6: Kenpo (Never found this one particularly demanding as i have a martial arts background but it gets the blood flowing and seems to help my recovery)
day 7: Stretch X which is optional but i like to stay in the hour+ per day exercising habit.

All that exercise gave me what you see in the pic. Not bad for a trend. Although my results might be better if i actually followed some sort of diet.

[paulieg]

@paulie

Well it really depends on what your goals are when you're working out, if you're trying to be as strong as possible or if you have other goals in mind like greater endurance (which I know you're definitely well aware of given your background).

P90X is very demanding from a cardiovascular perspective. I'm not sure how much of P90X you've seen so far but it has you doing weight training 3 days per week as well as more cardio intensive workouts.

Given I'm on Phase 2 again (I've worked through it a few times) my week is: day 1: chest + shoulders + triceps (weight lifting) + ab ripper X
day 2: Plyometrics
day 3: Biceps and back (more weight lifting) + ab ripper X
day 4: Yoga (dislike this the most but I have seen an increase in balance and flexibility)
day 5: Legs and back (Use weights for this one too) + ab ripper x
day 6: Kenpo (Never found this one particularly demanding as i have a martial arts background but it gets the blood flowing and seems to help my recovery)
day 7: Stretch X which is optional but i like to stay in the hour+ per day exercising habit.

All that exercise gave me what you see in the pic. Not bad for a trend. Although my results might be better if i actually followed some sort of diet.

You make some quality points here. I'm sure you are right regarding the cardiovascular perspective. I will give you that. I do tend to focus more on on the strength training aspects. It's just in my blood. I supposed if the modified plyometrics and light weight training didn't put me off, I may have seen the cardiovascular benefits in a different light.

Your pic looks good. You've got some solid definition. Much better than I look right now, though I'm in a winter bulking phase. I'm guessing that some of your core strength and mass comes from your background in martial arts, correct?

Let me revise my opinion. A system like this is overpriced, considering that you could develop a sound program in one session with a personal trainer. I think that the cardio aspects good. I would ignore the weight training though, due to improper form and limitations of the program, if you really want to gain some significant muscle mass and strength.

You said, "Exercise in a way that is fun." I suppose there is someone out there who finds jumping chin-ups fun.

Yes, the basics don't change, and a lot of people think there's a magic pill out there and is all they need (Ab roller?), but I sure do see a lot of people bashing P90x who have never seen the videos, much less done them. I think of them like most people and "power" yoga. "Oh, that looks easy." And then they try it and it kicks their ass.

Most importantly, if some kind of DVD helps people get off the couch when they otherwise wouldn't have, then it was probably worth the price right there. Heck, look at the customer reviews on Amazon. The DVDs must be doing at least something right.

Anyway, I think Tony looks pretty good for a 50-year-old. He's 45 or so in the DVDs.

When does that "trendy and won't be remembered in five years" start? Tony's "Power 90" came out in 2001, P90x came out in 2004, and it's been incredibly popular since then. Here we are, nearly six years after 2004, having a thread on it.

I have watched the videos and tried it. Cardio is demanding, and the plyometrics are just meh. Like I posted above. I would follow some of the cardio, aand stick with a more traditional weight training program. You do have a point about getting people off of the couch. I'm with you there. I'm just saying that I know what works, and it has nothing to do with "3 payments of only 39.95".

The site annoys me too. They speak of muscle confusion as a radical new concept.

[Magibeg]

You make some quality points here. I'm sure you are right regarding the cardiovascular perspective. I will give you that. I do tend to focus more on on the strength training aspects. It's just in my blood. I supposed if the modified plyometrics didn't put me off, I have have seen the cardiovascular benefits in a different light.

Your pic looks good. You've got some solid definition. I'm guessing that some of your core strength and mass comes from your background in martial arts, correct?

Let me revise my opinion. A system like this is overpriced, considering that you could develop a sound program in one session with a personal trainer. I think that the cardio aspects good. I would ignore the weight training though, due to improper form and limitations of the program, if you really want to gain some significant muscle mass and strength.

Martial arts especially ground based like jujitsu are excellent for the core, I'd recommend it for anyone.

Yea I definitely wouldn't rate it over a personal trainer in terms of potential because the exercise set does have its limitations. It's also to note that I have a lot of personal drive towards fitness while someone who doesn't may just not feel like exercising. Nothing beats having a buddy (or a trainer) hounding you to get going. Though I think the biggest problem with P90X is that it truly is hard, especially for someone who is out of shape. Definitely not for someone just starting out.

[jmcslob]

Ok I'm to out of shape to just pickup this routine...

but I am looking for a good cardio (Dr's advice), But i don't want strength training...

Tbh I don't want to gain any more strength.....I'm totally ok in that department

I was at The Dr's office Friday and i tipped the Scales at 318lbs.....That's 58lbs heavier than I like to be....

yes I am quite Large...Even when Skinny I am quite Large...Think NFL linebacker size...
I seem to come from the Land of the Moose people

I have a slightly enlarged Heart and a Family history of heart Disease, although I seem to be quite ok, My Dr. was actually quite surprised by my BP and HR was 120 over 80 and 60 beats a minute, but my Dr. wants the weight gone
I'm 31 and i smoke.....Stuff....

Any advice..... to get me started...
I'm also gonna start eating fruits and vegetables along side of my meat...That's sadly only half a joke as my diet basically has consisted of Coca~Cola, Dairy,Grains and Meat....and a potato....and once a year Apples but only in October (Local Apples rule)

All jokes aside and good advice for me..

[Wile E]

Go to the YMCA and swim a lot. That's great cardio, and no impact on your joints, which can be hard on us big guys.

[jmcslob]

Go to the YMCA and swim a lot. That's great cardio, and no impact on your joints, which can be hard on us big guys.
No BS all in door pools have closed around here.....Exept YMCA but I swear it's like $800 a year and all it's pools are booked for one program after another forever..
It's so bad my city built an actual Fitness Club(I'll look for a link) for City Residents but as of yet only an outdoor pool... maybe next year...

But yeah as soon as i find a place i intend on taking that advice.....

http://niles-wellness.ezleagues.ezfacility.com/default.aspx?facility_id=529
It has an indoor soccer field, weight lifting equipment, an outdoor pool but no year round cardio workout..... unless you want to run...But I'm to fat to Run...Pun intended...

[Deusxmachina]

All jokes aside and good advice for me..

Here's a start:
http://www.generalnonsense.net/showthread.php?t=479

Read this super-kickass post in particular: :D
http://www.generalnonsense.net/showpost.php?p=7963&postcount=87

[jmcslob]

Will low weight High reps do as Cardio?... just a thought

[Magibeg]

Will low weight High reps do as Cardio?... just a thought

Only if you do it enough to raise your heart rate. Anything that gets your heart rate to around 150 or so for a sustained amount of time would be good cardio.