Mustang GT500 Handling

[LittleLizard]

Ok, dont get me wrong im mustang fan from games and the real life and i also know that as is an american muscle car, it has poor handling BUT i never thought it was THAT POOR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46E0gCF5os

im shocked. You give almost 500 bhp to a car and left the suspension unchanged from the 300 version. Its stupid

[T3hPwn3r3r]

You haven't seen the 2010 version.

Everything is different.

[Magibeg]

I love top gear, but i also recognize that they seem to have a special hate for most American cars, particularly mustangs. Most people won't be taking their mustang around the track anyway, it's more meant for going in a straight line.

[T3hPwn3r3r]

I love top gear, but i also recognize that they seem to have a special hate for most American cars, particularly mustangs. Most people won't be taking their mustang around the track anyway, it's more meant for going in a straight line.

I'd track a Mustang.

I'd track a 99 Cobra especially :D

http://www.insideline.com/ford/mustang-svt-cobra/1999/full-test-1999-ford-svt-mustang-cobra-convertible.html

The current generation of Mustang handles great for an LRA, and the one previous to it wasn't even that bad.

One neat thing about the Cobra's IRS system is that it is delivered to the factory pre-assembled on its own isolated tubular subframe, ready to bolt right into the Cobra. The attachment points are exactly the same as those used for the live axle with links on the 1999 Mustang V6 and GT. (Yep, that means the IRS unit can be bolted into any SN95 Mustang. While there's no official word on availability, we'd expect swap kits to be ready for sale by the time next year's SVO race parts catalog come out.) About the only thing that Dearborn Assembly workers do differently to install the IRS is to use a slightly rerouted exhaust pipe to get around the new suspension and mount the ABS sensors inboard on the Cobra half-shafts instead of outboard, like on the GT.

[JC316]

The IRS in the 99 cobra is actually pretty crappy, prone to major wheel hop. I think they improved it in 01. No mustang is going to be a track ready car from the factory, but that is the aftermarket is huge on these cars.

Another big problem is that GT500 is a porker, it's damn hard to make a 3700lbs car agile, but again, it's not designed for the track.

Funny enough, I love the LRA on my 96 GT way more than the other IRS cars that I have owned. My old 93 300zx had an IRS and handled great, but the straight line and attempts at burnouts were terrible. Best IRS I have seen is in the 96 Mark VIII that my sister has.

[Magibeg]

Check this out:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/17/2011-ford-mustang-gt-to-offer-412-horsepower-5-0l-v8/

[T3hPwn3r3r]

I'm already excited enough for the lighter 3.7L V6 going into the 2011 non-GT. At 29mpg with 305hp, and quite a bit lighter, all for less than 21 grand for the base...

Give me!

[T3hPwn3r3r]

Also, the new Fiesta is on the Ford page... Damn good looking car, 30 city, 40 highway!

[JC316]

Check this out:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/17/2011-ford-mustang-gt-to-offer-412-horsepower-5-0l-v8/

Yeah, its been floating around that the GT would make 400+HP, my question is going to be torque. With the fact that it is a modular motor and is DOHC, I am thinking probably around 370ftlbs.

Edit.
I was close, 390ftlbs.

[FordGT90Concept]

Ford GT > Ford Mustang GT500

Ford GT = go around track
Ford Mustang GT500 = go straight

Really no surprise there. Still, if you want to make it go fast around a track, you just got to know how to soothe it...


Those hubcaps are fugly too. :(


LMFAO!!! I love that last sentence. XD

[Wile E]

The IRS in the 99 cobra is actually pretty crappy, prone to major wheel hop. I think they improved it in 01. No mustang is going to be a track ready car from the factory, but that is the aftermarket is huge on these cars.

Another big problem is that GT500 is a porker, it's damn hard to make a 3700lbs car agile, but again, it's not designed for the track.

Funny enough, I love the LRA on my 96 GT way more than the other IRS cars that I have owned. My old 93 300zx had an IRS and handled great, but the straight line and attempts at burnouts were terrible. Best IRS I have seen is in the 96 Mark VIII that my sister has.

The IRS in the 03 Mustangs were much better. It's primarily the overly soft bushings and axle wind-up to blame for the hop. As a matter in fact, it's actually axle wind up that people feel most of the time on the IRS Mustangs, not actually wheel hop.

And the S13 240 has a great IRS, much like the ZX, but without HICAS, and therefore more predictable, thus the heavy use in drifting, due to it's controlability with minimal changes.

And believe it or not, most IRS cars can be set up to hook better than an axled car. The key issue involved is generally strength compared to their solid axle brethren.

[JC316]

The IRS in the 03 Mustangs were much better. It's primarily the overly soft bushings and axle wind-up to blame for the hop. As a matter in fact, it's actually axle wind up that people feel most of the time on the IRS Mustangs, not actually wheel hop.

And the S13 240 has a great IRS, much like the ZX, but without HICAS, and therefore more predictable, thus the heavy use in drifting, due to it's controlability with minimal changes.

And believe it or not, most IRS cars can be set up to hook better than an axled car. The key issue involved is generally strength compared to their solid axle brethren.

Oh yeah, they squat more than the solid axle and can hook better. That is one thing that I really like about the Mark VIII, so much easier to launch than my GT. With my ZX if I did break it loose, it was over, had to relaunch due to how bad it was hopping around. At least with my GT it makes for a fun ride and a good show if I break it loose on the launch.

For handling with an IRS the quality of the rear sway bar is key. On my old 94 Mark, the rear bar broke and it became VERY unpredictable in the turns.

[@RaXxaa@]

American Cars: All Muscles No Brains, Muscle on steroids cant Relay on it

[1Kurgan1]

American Cars: All Muscles No Brains, Muscle on steroids cant Relay on it

(slap) I don't need to say much more.

[Wile E]

American Cars: All Muscles No Brains, Muscle on steroids cant Relay on it

What cars does your country make?

[T3hPwn3r3r]

Even more so, what do they recieve?

The Chevrolets sold in the Middle East for the most part are nothing but rebadged Daewoo.

[@RaXxaa@]

What cars does your country make?

Actually none really all imports :p and every car is a import

[1Kurgan1]

Actually none really all imports :p and every car is a import

Import would be subjective to where you live. Like if you not in the US, then that would be an import, or if you were in Japan US would be an import and a Japanese car would be a domestic.

[@RaXxaa@]

But i live at a place where every car is an import as we do not make any cars :p we import every one of em!

[niko084]

I'm already excited enough for the lighter 3.7L V6 going into the 2011 non-GT. At 29mpg with 305hp, and quite a bit lighter, all for less than 21 grand for the base...

Give me!

They gotta do something the Camaro V6 is right on the Mustang GT's tail performance wise.

I agree though, American cars handle like crap :)

I have owned many American sports cars... I still think my BMW 330ci out corners every one of them.

[1Kurgan1]

They gotta do something the Camaro V6 is right on the Mustang GT's tail performance wise.

I agree though, American cars handle like crap :)

I have owned many American sports cars... I still think my BMW 330ci out corners every one of them.

See, your blurring the line of muscle car and sports car. You want a Muscle car, you get a Mustang or a Camaro, you want a Sports car (from America) you get a Vette, 330ci won't hold a candle there. The Bimmers a great handling car, or if comparing prices (since the Vettes obviously more than a 3300CI was new, look to a Soltice GXP (cheap sports car, and faster than a 330CI too).

[cdawall]

They gotta do something the Camaro V6 is right on the Mustang GT's tail performance wise.

I agree though, American cars handle like crap :)

I have owned many American sports cars... I still think my BMW 330ci out corners every one of them.

swap the suspension on the mustang GT and it out handles alot of cars.

oh and the V6 camaro is fast in a straight line but the mustang GT beats the SS on a track.

[1Kurgan1]

swap the suspension on the mustang GT and it out handles alot of cars.

oh and the V6 camaro is fast in a straight line but the mustang GT beats the SS on a track.

The GT does not beat an SS on the track, the skip pad and other handling figures for the GT and the SS are almost identical, but the SS has 126hp on the GT.

Mustangs can be made to handle well, but it's not the best handling platform out there with a solid rear axle. When modifications come in, what do other cars with suspension upgrades do, hard to compare a car for $30,000 then adding in money for suspension upgrades.

[T3hPwn3r3r]

The GT does not beat an SS on the track, the skip pad and other handling figures for the GT and the SS are almost identical, but the SS has 126hp on the GT.

Mustangs can be made to handle well, but it's not the best handling platform out there with a solid rear axle. When modifications come in, what do other cars with suspension upgrades do, hard to compare a car for $30,000 then adding in money for suspension upgrades.

SS has more hp, but it's also well over 2 tons!!!