Use two or one foot to drive?

[warup89]

Ever since i got my car, people get worried when i drive because I use both feet in each pedal, since i was a little kid I preferred using both feet than one and im quiet comfortable really. But some say that its dangerous to drive with both...in an automatic car anyways [which is what i have, for now].

I think they say because i might get confused sometimes in a panic situation, but really when that happens I still keep in control.

[WhiteLotus]

you do what?

One foot on the clutch, other foot on the brake/accelerator.

[Kreij]

Two for me !
One on the clutch, one on the accelerator.
Braking is highly overrated :D

[pbmaster]

I know what he means...
He has one foot on the accelerator and one foot on the brake at all times. Since his car is automatic he's got both pedals covered at all times. My mom freaked out when I tried driving like that too...not sure why. I do know that my braking is a bit more touchy with my left foot lol..
I'd say if you feel comfortable doing it that way and you have no problems with control, keep doing it. Drive your car the way you want!

[Polaris573]

Just don't rest your left foot on or above the brake pedal. You can unknowingly ride them and wear them down.

[DirectorC]

Don't do that. One time I hit a light post at a mall because the boots I was wearing were so big that they were tapping the gas pedal a bit while I was hitting the brake. No bueno.

[95viper]

Do whatever you wish, there are no rules or laws, I know of, that says one way or the other... correct me please, if I am wrong. But, for goodness sake, please, keep the foot off the brake, as I hate following someone who has the brake lights on all the time or off/on-off/on-off/on-etc. IMO-This is iritating and inconsiderate behavior, that can lead to no good, for the driver of the vehicle or the others behind. Plus a police officer, could be led to believe you are driving impaired.

And, I agree with Polaris573, as it can lead to pre-mature break wear.
I will add to that; it could lead to over heating of the pads and rotors, which might decrease your braking distance.

Happy Motoring:)

[warup89]

Oh wow thanks guys now i know WHY this is bad, i was just trying to find a definition instead of "just dont!"

PS
I almost crashed today..not because of that..but because i was in such a hurry and my car went forward when i thought i had it on reverse :rolleyes:

[JC316]

In all driving schools, they will make you drive with one foot. I knew a guy that was like you, but they made him switch to one foot. There are several reasons behind it, most have been mentioned above. All it takes is the slightest pressure to engage the front brakes and the brake light, if you rest your foot on the pedal, that is happening. Also, the way the brain works, one side is going to be dominant, so in a panic situation, the dominant foot is going to hit first.

Believe me, when I almost hit a cow, my right foot was on the brake and my left was doing nothing when it should have been hitting the clutch.

[WhiteNoise]

That is considered wrong. One foot should be used to operate both the gas and brake.

[DirectorC]

In all driving schools, they will make you drive with one foot.

Yep after viper's post this is what I was gonna say. In driving school, you will learn that you are required to have your feet that way.

Relax your left leg, unless you're using the clutch. Them's the rules.

[stevorob]

In all driving schools, they will make you drive with one foot. I knew a guy that was like you, but they made him switch to one foot. There are several reasons behind it, most have been mentioned above. All it takes is the slightest pressure to engage the front brakes and the brake light, if you rest your foot on the pedal, that is happening. Also, the way the brain works, one side is going to be dominant, so in a panic situation, the dominant foot is going to hit first.

Believe me, when I almost hit a cow, my right foot was on the brake and my left was doing nothing when it should have been hitting the clutch.

JC is right, all schools teach you to use 1 foot for the brake/gas pedal.

I have had similar situations, where in "panic" mode I had to slam on brakes with my right foot, and my left foot was doing nothing when I should have also been engaging the clutch, but took me a sec to process that I hadn't pushed the clutch in and my car stalled - always best to use one foot for the the brake/gas

[FordGT90Concept]

I have nothing really to add so I'll recap:
1) Automatic transmission = one foot covering the accelerator and brake pedals.
2) Manual transmission = one foot covering the accelerator and brake pedals, one foot covering clutch pedal.
3) Driver's ed schools and driving manuals recommend only the above practices.
4) Reasons for not covering both gas and brake at any given time:
4a) Can wreck havok on the transmission and brakes when the engine is trying to apply more power and the braking system is trying to stop it.
4b) The brake light may give improper signals to those behind you.
4c) Emergency situations may lead to you accelerating instead of braking.
4d) On long trips, keeping one leg relaxed will allow you to switch feet to prevent fatigue.

[Frick]

Of course you use two feet, you can't use the clutch with just one. Unless you happens to drive automatic.

BTW, how common is automatics in the US?

[Kreij]

Very common.

[erocker]

warup89, you should really take a driver education course. You can probablly do it online. If you already did, do it again.

[Papahyooie]

I use both feet in an automatic and have no problems. I dont rest my left foot on the brake pedal though, so most of the above such as hurting the car and brake lights always on doesnt apply. As for you confusing break pedals in an emergency situation, I've been in one wreck (not my fault) and been close to getting in several that I averted, and apparently I have fast enough reflexes, and don't panic when something like that happens, so it has never happened to me, so I'm not worried about it. My girlfriend was always amazed whenever something happened on the road, and I calmly averted the disaster (and then usually had to stop and go back and help the poor sap who didnt) because she'd be screaming her head off. Happened 3 times with her in the car.
The reason my parents gave for not using both feet was, dont START driving (as in learning) with both feet because then you'll screw up when driving a manual. I learned in a manual, and on motorcycles, so once again, doesnt apply. Most people when driving an automatic for a long time have to get used to a manual again before they can do it properly. Im used to switching out all the time, so no problem.
Also, sliding around dirt backroads in small town arkansas will get you killed if youre only using one foot, lol. All my limbs work pretty well independantly, I guess from riding and driving all kinds of vehicles. Gas pedal, brake, clutch, e-brake, steering wheel... then throttle and front brake, clutch, shifter, and back break on a motorcycle... I suppose alot of people could get them confused. Try driving a motorcycle with a suicide clutch or jockey shift! Now THAT will mess you up, lol.

[Polaris573]

BTW, how common is automatics in the US?

Significantly more common than manuals. Most of the people I know can't even drive a car with a manual transmission.

[stevorob]

Of course you use two feet, you can't use the clutch with just one. Unless you happens to drive automatic.

BTW, how common is automatics in the US?

Too common... Most Americans are lazy drivers...

[Kreij]

Both my wife's car, a Mazda 3, and my Jeep Wrangler are manual (5 speed and 6 speed respectively).

No self-respecting Jeeper would own an automatic. lol

Oh, just want to add that when you drive a stick you should not hover over the clutch (for similar reasons as to hovering over the brake) unless you are in the up/down shifting.
Riding the clutch is just as bad a riding the brakes.

[JC316]

Of course you use two feet, you can't use the clutch with just one. Unless you happens to drive automatic.

BTW, how common is automatics in the US?

Extremely. In the mid 90's the manual transmission was an option in most cars. Really, only sports cars and gas savers come with a manual anymore.

[Papahyooie]

Extremely. In the mid 90's the manual transmission was an option in most cars. Really, only sports cars and gas savers come with a manual anymore.

Yeap. My mother actually paid extra on her new cobalt for a manual transmission!

[JC316]

Yeap. My mother actually paid extra on her new cobalt for a manual transmission!

Yeah, it's insane. Hell, on the C5 Corvette the auto was standard and the manual was the option, on a freaking CORVETTE. Just try finding a 93+ Camaro with a manual.

[Kreij]

In all honesty, a stick can be a PITA if you do a lot of city driving in heavy traffic.
Probably why there are more ATs in the US.

[JC316]

In all honesty, a stick can be a PITA if you do a lot of city driving in heavy traffic.
Probably why there are more ATs in the US.

When I first started, my left calf muscles weren't used to it and I disliked it. When I got my Mustang it had clutchzilla on it and my leg got strong. Now I am at a manageable clutch again and it doesn't bother me that much.

Even in traffic, I will still take the manual. Nothing like sitting in traffic and seeing a SMALL opening, putting it in 1st, load up the engine and let the clutch fly and ZIP into the moving lane. Can't do that with an auto.

[Kreij]

Yeah, but can you do that while listening to the radio, talking on your cell phone, smoking a joint, drinking coffee, watching the GPS and scratching your nuts all at the same time?

If you can, just let me know where you drive so I can stay far away!! lol

[JC316]

Yeah, but can you do that while listening to the radio, talking on your cell phone, smoking a joint, drinking coffee, watching the GPS and scratching your nuts all at the same time?

If you can, just let me know where you drive so I can stay far away!! lol

Radio and nuts yes. I don't own a cell, I rarely drink coffee, never smoke a joint, or watch the GPS.

[Kreij]

Lol ... I drive a stick in traffic too as both of our cars are such.
Thankfully, I live in the sticks and that is not very often.

[JC316]

Lol ... I drive a stick in traffic too as both of our cars are such.
Thankfully, I live in the sticks and that is not very often.

Pretty much the same for me and if I am going into heavy traffic, I have PLENTY of auto cars to choose from. Including a Mark VIII, a cadillac seville and a Ford Taurus.

[Vog46_1999]

Please use a cane to operate your accelerator and brake pedals.
This frees up both legs to drive with - remember the old adage: both knees on the wheel at all times
This frees up your hands to do the things they were meant to do:
Fiddle with the radio
T/Sext while driving
Do your hair and nails (women only)
Drink and/or eat
Pick your nose
Smoke
Flip off other drivers...
Clean your gun(s)

I could go on...........

Best Regards
Vog

(Sarcasm - lots and lots of sarcasm)

[Kreij]

Clean your gun(s)

Depending on where you live, that could be valid while driving.

Just saying ....

[DirectorC]

I use both feet in an automatic and have no problems. I dont rest my left foot on the brake pedal though, so most of the above such as hurting the car and brake lights always on doesnt apply. As for you confusing break pedals in an emergency situation, I've been in one wreck (not my fault) and been close to getting in several that I averted, and apparently I have fast enough reflexes, and don't panic when something like that happens, so it has never happened to me, so I'm not worried about it. My girlfriend was always amazed whenever something happened on the road, and I calmly averted the disaster (and then usually had to stop and go back and help the poor sap who didnt) because she'd be screaming her head off. Happened 3 times with her in the car.
The reason my parents gave for not using both feet was, dont START driving (as in learning) with both feet because then you'll screw up when driving a manual. I learned in a manual, and on motorcycles, so once again, doesnt apply. Most people when driving an automatic for a long time have to get used to a manual again before they can do it properly. Im used to switching out all the time, so no problem.
Also, sliding around dirt backroads in small town arkansas will get you killed if youre only using one foot, lol. All my limbs work pretty well independantly, I guess from riding and driving all kinds of vehicles. Gas pedal, brake, clutch, e-brake, steering wheel... then throttle and front brake, clutch, shifter, and back break on a motorcycle... I suppose alot of people could get them confused. Try driving a motorcycle with a suicide clutch or jockey shift! Now THAT will mess you up, lol.

As much as you can vouch for yourself and how this is not a problem for you, it is going to go over about as well as telling people that you drive straight as an arrow no matter how drunk you are. Trust me, I've done that, LOL. I'm a champ at drunk driving... well, good for me, but it's still a bad idea. That's what your story is like. Works good for you? Right on. Good idea for anyone to be driving like this? Absolutely not.

[Papahyooie]

As much as you can vouch for yourself and how this is not a problem for you, it is going to go over about as well as telling people that you drive straight as an arrow no matter how drunk you are. Trust me, I've done that, LOL. I'm a champ at drunk driving... well, good for me, but it's still a bad idea. That's what your story is like. Works good for you? Right on. Good idea for anyone to be driving like this? Absolutely not.

I agree. Not saying everyone should do so atall. Guess I could have said that outright, but since I listed all the reasons why *I* have no problem with it, I figured it would say itself.

[theonedub]

I'm glad this guy is in FL, one less risk on the road for me AND my cell phone is safe. Anyone know if I add someone to my ignore list will it hide the threads they create as well?

[Reventon]

I drive my parents cars which are both automatics and I drive with two feet. My mom doesn't like it when I do that. But I'm used to it from racing games. I don't understand how it could be bad. You can get a quicker stop in an emergency if you don't have to switch from one foot to another.

[DaveK]

I laugh at anyone who drives an automatic in Ireland, here they cost extra over manual, we're talking an extra €1,000 and up. Why would someone pay instead of learning how to drive manual? Jeez :S

[Reventon]

Unfortunately here in the US most cars are automatic and not manual, which is why both of my parent's car are auto. However, I have fortunately learned how to drive stick shifts through racing games and through driving motorcycles.

[JC316]

Unfortunately here in the US most cars are automatic and not manual, which is why both of my parent's car are auto. However, I have fortunately learned how to drive stick shifts through racing games and through driving motorcycles.

Slightly different lol. The basic concept is there, but not the rest.

[Wile E]

I drive my parents cars which are both automatics and I drive with two feet. My mom doesn't like it when I do that. But I'm used to it from racing games. I don't understand how it could be bad. You can get a quicker stop in an emergency if you don't have to switch from one foot to another.

Not true. In an emergency, 2 footed driving is gonna be your downfall. Racing and driving are 2 entirely different driving styles. In a real emergency, you are much more likely to hit both pedals at the same time, increasing your stopping distance.

2 footed driving is used on the track to keep engine revs up to maintain full power output, as letting off the gas can result in falling back too far in the power band.

You guys need to do yourselves a favor, and quit using your left foot, unless you have a clutch to operate.

[JC316]

Not true. In an emergency, 2 footed driving is gonna be your downfall. Racing and driving are 2 entirely different driving styles. In a real emergency, you are much more likely to hit both pedals at the same time, increasing your stopping distance.

2 footed driving is used on the track to keep engine revs up to maintain full power output, as letting off the gas can result in falling back too far in the power band.

You guys need to do yourselves a favor, and quit using your left foot, unless you have a clutch to operate.

+1. I am ambidextrous, but I am more dominant on my right side, so in an emergency situation, my right foot gets all the attention. I can do anything left handed, eat, write, drive, play tennis, bowl, kick a ball, etc, but in panic mode, I go right handed all the way.

[Reventon]

Not true. In an emergency, 2 footed driving is gonna be your downfall. Racing and driving are 2 entirely different driving styles. In a real emergency, you are much more likely to hit both pedals at the same time, increasing your stopping distance.

2 footed driving is used on the track to keep engine revs up to maintain full power output, as letting off the gas can result in falling back too far in the power band.

You guys need to do yourselves a favor, and quit using your left foot, unless you have a clutch to operate.

I'm good but thanks anyway.

[Wile E]

I'm good but thanks anyway.

No you aren't, but I'll let your teenage pride teach you the hard way. ;)

[JC316]

I'm good but thanks anyway.

Actually, you aren't. It's gonna take a wreck or completely burnt brakes and warped rotors before you will get it. I am real willing to bet that you are 16 and think you know everything about driving.

[DaveK]

There's a foot rest beside the clutch pedal so you only have your foot on it when you need to use the clutch, brake in the middle and gas on the right. I used the right foot for braking and gas, that way I don't press the brakes and gas at the same time.

[JC316]

There's a foot rest beside the clutch pedal so you only have your foot on it when you need to use the clutch, brake in the middle and gas on the right. I used the right foot for braking and gas, that way I don't press the brakes and gas at the same time.

Bingo. Rest your left foot on the clutch and wear out the throw out bearing. Rest it on the brake, and your lights come on and you wear the pads out.

[Reventon]

Actually, you aren't. It's gonna take a wreck or completely burnt brakes and warped rotors before you will get it. I am real willing to bet that you are 16 and think you know everything about driving.

I'm 16 and know everything about racing, not driving.

[JC316]

I'm 16 and know everything about racing, not driving.

I am sure that you double clutch instead of granny shift :P. Well, if you did, you would at least have your feet right lol.

[Reventon]

Double clutching is unnecessary for road driving.

[Wile E]

I'm 16 and know everything about racing, not driving.

No, no you don't. Racing sims, no matter how realistic, are nothing like the real thing. I used to be a regular at Beaver Run race course on open track days, I can tell you first hand, it's a completely different world.

And double clutching isn't necessary in anything short of a tractor trailer or a non-synchro manual. And even then, good rev matching makes it unneeded.

[JC316]

Double clutching is unnecessary for road driving.

Unless you are a trucker, your transmission is unsynchronized, or your syncros are going out.

[Reventon]

Who says I haven't raced on a track?

[JC316]

No, no you don't. Racing sims, no matter how realistic, are nothing like the real thing. I used to be a regular at Beaver Run race course on open track days, I can tell you first hand, it's a completely different world.

And double clutching isn't necessary in anything short of a tractor trailer or a non-synchro manual. And even then, good rev matching makes it unneeded.

+1

Who says I haven't raced on a track?

Even if you have, you are 16 and don't have the wheel time to have learned. I can nearly guarantee that my Mustang would hand you your ass on a platter if you tried to drive it aggressively.

[Wile E]

Who says I haven't raced on a track?

Your age.

[Reventon]

I'm old enough to have my license. Why can't I race?

[JC316]

I'm old enough to have my license. Why can't I race?

Most tracks won't allow it. You have to be 18 to race on them. Just curious, but what kind of car do you drive?

[Reventon]

Not private tracks.

I drive a 1992 Pontiac Firebird. Unfortunately, it's an automatic.

[JC316]

Not private tracks.

I drive a 1992 Pontiac Firebird. Unfortunately, it's an automatic.

Define private track please. All of my local tracks won't allow you to race unless you are 18 or over. V8 or V6? 5.0L or 5.7L? Any mods? Have you ever actually driven a stick shift car?

[Wile E]

Not private tracks.

I drive a 1992 Pontiac Firebird. Unfortunately, it's an automatic.

Only if you rent the track out yourself. That's a hell of a lot more expensive than open track days. They still have insurance and liabilities to think of. A minor is not capable of waiving their liability legally.

Besides, we just know you haven't by the way you speak of it. lol.

[Reventon]

Define private track please. All of my local tracks won't allow you to race unless you are 18 or over. V8 or V6? 5.0L or 5.7L? Any mods? Have you ever actually driven a stick shift car?

V6, 3.1L I believe. No mods. I have driven a stick shift but hardly.

Only if you rent the track out yourself. That's a hell of a lot more expensive than open track days. They still have insurance and liabilities to think of. A minor is not capable of waiving their liability legally.

Besides, we just know you haven't by the way you speak of it. lol.

Yes, because I never said I did.

[JC316]

3.1l.... 140HP and 180ftlbs of torque.... The Pontiac Grand Am that I just sold had more power and less weight than that. My moms Ford Taurus has the same amount of power and slightly less torque.

My Mustang would chew you up and spit you out if you tried to drive it.

[Reventon]

I'm sorry that I don't want to pay $10,000 for a car and $250 a month on insurance? I'm getting a truck anyway.

[DaveK]

3.1L and you're 16, damn insurance must be hella cheap over there, everyone under 18 here gets RAPED in insurance, that's why people never go over 1.4L :S

Not to mention most cars would be significantly less than 140hp. If it had mods, higher insurance.

[Reventon]

It's also a '92 though.

[JC316]

I'm sorry that I don't want to pay $10,000 for a car and $250 a month on insurance? I'm getting a truck anyway.

I have $2500 in my Mustang and my insurance is $23 a month. Even when I was 16, my insurance on a sports car was only $80 a month. Liability only of course.

3.1L and you're 16, damn insurance must be hella cheap over there, everyone under 18 here gets RAPED in insurance, that's why people never go over 1.4L :S

Not to mention most cars would be significantly less than 140hp. If it had mods, higher insurance.

3.1L is a dinky motor here. Considered a gas saver really. Even the 4.6L in my stang is a small V8. Try the 7.4L 454 that's in my parents motor home. Or the 7.1L that was in a 78 eldorado that I drove for a few weeks.

Try this big sumbitch on for size. That's ALL motor under the hood.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/JC316_2006/100_7630.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/JC316_2006/100_7628.jpg

[Reventon]

I have $2500 in my Mustang and my insurance is $23 a month. Even when I was 16, my insurance on a sports car was only $80 a month. Liability only of course.



3.1L is a dinky motor here. Considered a gas saver really. Even the 4.6L in my stang is a small V8. Try the 7.4L 454 that's in my parents motor home. Or the 7.1L that was in a 78 eldorado that I drove for a few weeks.

Where do you live?

And yes, cars here in the US are bigger and have bigger engines. No dinky European 5ft. long cars. I would like to try to find a car here with a 1.4L or less.

[JC316]

Where do you live?

And yes, cars here in the US are bigger and have bigger engines. No dinky European 5ft. long cars. I would like to try to find a car here with a 1.4L or less.

Dallas, Texas. Geo makes a 1.3L 4 cylinder and a 1.0L 3 cylinder for the Metro. Honda Makes a 1.5L for the Civic. Just changed out an engine on a 200 chevy metro with the 1.3L in it, I can pick the engine up by myself.

[Wile E]

I want an El Diablo Smart Car. :D

[Reventon]

Lololololol 0-60 in 11 seconds flat.

Smart Cars blow. Gay piece of shit 3 ft. chode with room for nothing. Hope every Smart Car gets smashed by an F650.

[Wile E]

Lololololol 0-60 in 11 seconds flat.

Smart Cars blow. Gay piece of shit 3 ft. chode with room for nothing.

This is what I want.

SWCKYYnRpwU

[Reventon]

Can't be that hard to propel something that weighs 500 pounds. Rather die than own a Smart Car, Hayabusa or not.

And by 0-60 in 11 seconds I meant the Geo, but okay.

[Wile E]

Hell, 40mpg, and 12sec ET's. I'll happily have a GSXR Smart as a daily driver. I don't care what a car looks like, only how well it performs and how reliable it is.

[JC316]

Reminds me of Mario Kart lol. That or these RC stunt cars that my friend sells. A fast turd is still a turd. I would take the Ariel Atom over that. Still, it would be fun to play with it.

Edit:

Oh and 0-60 in 11 seconds in that Geo is giving it too much, I would figure more on 13 seconds since it's a 3 speed auto.

[Reventon]

I'll take my $20,000 and get a Viper. Something that looks good and performs well. Fuel efficiency is for Conservatives.

[Wile E]

I'll take my $20,000 and get a Viper. Something that looks good and performs well.

And is used and gets 8mpg and breaks down and has higher insurance (no company would insure you for a Viper anyway). Not to mention, a Smart is about as sleeper as sleeper gets. A few bolt-ons, and I'm even faster than your Viper. You can keep your viper.

Style and looks mean absolutely ZERO to me. I care about function only.

[JC316]

I'll take my $20,000 and get a Viper. Something that looks good and performs well. Fuel efficiency is for Conservatives.

Viper is too expensive to fix. I would get an 03-04 Cobra or a C5 Vette and add a supercharger to it.

[Reventon]

Make the Viper 500 pounds and then see who wins.

[Wile E]

You can't make the Viper 500lbs.

[Reventon]

Becuase it's not gay.

[Wile E]

Lighter is better for me. I hate heavy cars. That why I don't buy American sports cars anymore. They are pigs.

And gay is the guy in the Viper when he gets his ass whipped by the smart. lol

[Reventon]

At least I'll look good doing it.

[Reventon]

Besides, how is the stock Smart Car going to beat the Viper?

[Wile E]

At least I'll look good doing it.

Not to anybody that sees you lose. You'll look like an idiot, and be laughed at for sucking so bad by getting beat by a Smart car. lol

And who said anything about a stock smart car? I said I wanted the Diablo (GSXR powered) Smart from the beginning.

[JC316]

I would still take and Airel Atom over the Diablo Smart. Sure you can't drive it in the rain, but it's so much more stylish. Reventon, the motor in the viper weighs more than 500lbs.

[Wile E]

I would still take and Airel Atom over the Diablo Smart. Sure you can't drive it in the rain, but it's so much more stylish. Reventon, the motor in the viper weighs more than 500lbs.

Yeah, Atom is an awesome car, but not a sleeper. A Smart car has to have the highest sleeper value of any other car in existence. lol.

[JC316]

Yeah, Atom is an awesome car, but not a sleeper. A Smart car has to have the highest sleeper value of any other car in existence. lol.

You have me there. Who would think that a freaking smart car could destroy just about everything on the road.

[DaveK]

I found out the Mazda RX-8 gets taxed and insured as a 2 litre, what a load of bollox. It's 1.3L just because it's 250bhp doesn't mean it's not a 1.3L so there's another reason not to get one, raped on insurance AND it's got shit MPG.

As for insurance, if you tick "Modified" it goes up regardless of being rims (which tend to have better, wider tires) or a rollcage. Yes, you're more likely to cause damage in your safer car. What's the deal with that?

[JC316]

I found out the Mazda RX-8 gets taxed and insured as a 2 litre, what a load of bollox. It's 1.3L just because it's 250bhp doesn't mean it's not a 1.3L so there's another reason not to get one, raped on insurance AND it's got shit MPG.

As for insurance, if you tick "Modified" it goes up regardless of being rims (which tend to have better, wider tires) or a rollcage. Yes, you're more likely to cause damage in your safer car. What's the deal with that?

It's the way the motor is made. It's a Wankel rotatory which would equal about a 3.0L in normal engine standards. Sounds like your insurance companies suck over there.

[Wile E]

The way a Wankel works, it's technically a 2.6L. 2 combustion per rotation.

[WhiteNoise]

So i think this thread has proved that Reventon don't know jack.

[DaveK]

So i think this thread has proved that Reventon don't know jack.

I don't know jack about cars either. I just have the gist of some things but my knowledge is rather poor compared to other members.

All I know is that I will modify cars I own in the future and it wont be a ricer :) No giant logos on the side and 20" over sized chrome wheels for me lol. Gonna keep it clean and start with chassis and drive-train mods then work on speed. Depends on the car though, I'm not gonna but a widebody kit and rims on a 1litre Opel Corsa lol

[Reventon]

Not to anybody that sees you lose. You'll look like an idiot, and be laughed at for sucking so bad by getting beat by a Smart car. lol

And who said anything about a stock smart car? I said I wanted the Diablo (GSXR powered) Smart from the beginning.

Well then that makes no sense. That's like saying "My Dodge Neon can beat your Corvette, but let me put a 700hp engine in it first."

Anyway, I realized the other day that I actually drive with one foot. I used to drive with two then my mom told to use one so I guess I made it a habit. Didn't even realize it.

[Reventon]

I would still take and Airel Atom over the Diablo Smart. Sure you can't drive it in the rain, but it's so much more stylish. Reventon, the motor in the viper weighs more than 500lbs.

That's not my point.

So i think this thread has proved that Reventon don't know jack.

Actually, no.

I don't know jack about cars either. I just have the gist of some things but my knowledge is rather poor compared to other members.

All I know is that I will modify cars I own in the future and it wont be a ricer :) No giant logos on the side and 20" over sized chrome wheels for me lol. Gonna keep it clean and start with chassis and drive-train mods then work on speed. Depends on the car though, I'm not gonna but a widebody kit and rims on a 1litre Opel Corsa lol

Don't forget decals and fart cans make your car go faster.

[JC316]

That's not my point.



Actually, no.



Don't forget decals and fart cans make your car go faster.

Then what is your point? Actually, yes, especially since you are outnumbered by people that actually do know more than you.

[Reventon]

So you are saying I know nothing about racing or cars?

[JC316]

So you are saying I know nothing about racing or cars?

Oh, I wouldn't say that. You may have the theory down, but no experience to back it.

[Reventon]

I'm sorry that I'm not 18 and can't race.

[Reventon]

And I'm sorry for liking the way Vipers look and hating Smart Cars and thinking that racing is the same thing as racing and that driving with two feet is fatal and disagreeing with everyone even though I am stating my own opinion.

[JC316]

Never apologize for your opinion man and never take anything personal on the internet.

[Reventon]

I was being sarcastic :/.

[Wile E]

Well then that makes no sense. That's like saying "My Dodge Neon can beat your Corvette, but let me put a 700hp engine in it first."

Anyway, I realized the other day that I actually drive with one foot. I used to drive with two then my mom told to use one so I guess I made it a habit. Didn't even realize it.

Makes perfect sense. You can actually go buy a GSXR powered smart turn-key, brand new. There are a few places that pre build them, and sell them at dealerships.

So you are saying I know nothing about racing or cars?

I wouldn't say nothing, but I would say only a little. Without a lot of first hand experience, you cannot know a lot about either subject, sorry to say. Video games don't count.

[Reventon]

More than you think.

[Wile E]

More than you think.

More what than we think?

[Reventon]

More about racing and cars.

[jmcslob]

Just to add you don't need to Double clutch a Tractor trailer Either....

You only need to clutch for Reverse and 1st/4th depending on the weight...

Clutches are expensive the less you use em the better off you are...

Besides if you can't tell by the engine/turbo noise you have an RPM gauge to sync with and a label in every truck with the Transmission type and RPM range per gear...

As for cars
I hate Grocery go getters with a Manual if it's not sporty or off road capable it should be Auto

[Wile E]

More about racing and cars.

You know more about racing and cars compared to what? What are you trying to say exactly?

Lets put it this way, at 16 years of age, with no hands-on experience, you don't know enough to refute anything the experienced racers and drivers in this thread tell you.

[Steevo]

I have driven a twin turbo (aftermarket) BMW 3 series that could almost lift the front wheels off the ground, and took 15MPH hairpins at 60. I took it to 140MPH and then stopped as it wasn't mine. The guy I bought my truck from traded me vehicles for a weekend as he needed to move his sister out to Colorado. He tried to buy the truck back after all my upgrades.


I have taken my wifes Celi up to the 147Mph cutoff. My truck past the 85 and back around to the 0 once, no idea how fast I was going.

Untill you drive a clutch, practice borderline breaking at someone elses command, drifting, maintaining control in slides, and much else you are a dangerous driver. Failure to maintain your car at its rated specification is a safety hazzard. Tracks will NOT let you on without first proving your are capable of paying for damage, and you have a competent vehicle.

Have you had your car up on a lift and personally checked out your brakes, steering, drivetrain, mounts, fuel system, coolant system, lines, hoses, fixed any leaks, and then double checked?


Unless you have you are dangerous at anything over 15MPH. I won't take a car over 50MPH unless I have checked it out. I found a centering ring missing on my BBS mags that caused a minor vibration, the damage it could ahve caused at high speed is terrible, break a strut, tweak a a frame, take out wheel bearings, break mounting studs and fly off. lots of not fun stuff. Unless you are prepared and willing to do this , don't think you are a safe or good driver.


I tend to be a asshole to other drivers that do stupid shit, I have been in three accidents due to others bad driving habits never in a accident of my own fault, my failure to maintain, or just plain stupidity. Don't be stupid.

[DaveK]

Knowing stuff doesn't mean you're any good at it, I know how to drive a car, but I can't actually drive properly, despite knowing what to do.

[Reventon]

You know more about racing and cars compared to what? What are you trying to say exactly?

Lets put it this way, at 16 years of age, with no hands-on experience, you don't know enough to refute anything the experienced racers and drivers in this thread tell you.

Compared to what you all seem to think of me as a retard. I never said I knew more than anyon here. And yes, I do not have experience in racing. I do in driving, but that's entirely easy.

[yogurt_21]

This is what I want.

SWCKYYnRpwU

wow, that car will kill in europe I love the maneuverability. I especially love the drifting around the guy in the parking lot.

The air intake being in the cab is funny to me though. I also couldn't tell if he put in a roll cage, it didn't look like he did, which for me would be necessary in a car that small.

and yeah I'll take actually fast over looks fast anyday.

[Wile E]

wow, that car will kill in europe I love the maneuverability. I especially love the drifting around the guy in the parking lot.

The air intake being in the cab is funny to me though. I also couldn't tell if he put in a roll cage, it didn't look like he did, which for me would be necessary in a car that small.

and yeah I'll take actually fast over looks fast anyday.

I love it because it's the best of both worlds. Great performance AND great gas mileage.

As far as the intake, you could make it external with some creative tubing.

Compared to what you all seem to think of me as a retard. I never said I knew more than anyon here. And yes, I do not have experience in racing. I do in driving, but that's entirely easy.

Nobody said you were a retard or didn't know anything at all. You just bit off more than you could chew in the conversation, by trying to make it appear you know more than you really do.

There is nothing wrong with not being an expert. Everybody has to start somewhere.

[Reventon]

Guess that means I'm starting.

[Reventon]

Actually no I'm not.