Metal Bands (cont'd): please post your favorite [Metal] bands

[syker]

Since twitch managed to close down the other thread, i am making this one, just hoping he wont ruin this one, too. dont post anything offensive, please.

ok, i listen to a little genre called death metal. my opinion is closed, other than a few more bands.

[erocker]

Don't worry, it won't get closed down. If any member resorts to calling other members names they'll just get the bottom of my stomping boot and a head-butt out the MF door. They will then be thrown into a lake of a thousand torments to be devoured by the dark one. It will be the most "metal" banishment ever. (u)

[syker]

Don't worry, it won't get closed down. If any member resorts to calling other members names they'll just get the bottom of my stomping boot and a head-butt out the MF door. They will then be thrown into a lake of a thousand torments to be devoured by the dark one. It will be the most "metal" banishment ever. (u)

thanks :D i hate it when people get threads closed down. on the other hand, throw them into heaven, that way i wont have to live with them forever.

[erocker]

No, I don't want them anywhere near me. I'm a chosen one, I don't go to fiery lakes and stuff like that, it hurts! I mean, I love the music an all, but I draw the line at sacrificing random virgin girls to some beast. Fictionally it's cool as fuck, but in reality I'll pass. Lol.

[Frick]

None of them. Too brutal for me. Death and black is generally not my thing, with some exceptions. Like Vulture Industries and Pensées Nocturnes.

BTW, are we talking general metal here? Does Blind Guardian and Linkin Park belong here? I'm not a big fan of the latter, it was just an example.

[Black Panther]

they'll just get the bottom of my stomping boot and a head-butt out the MF door. They will then be thrown into a lake of a thousand torments to be devoured by the dark one.

That's too kind. I'd propose listening to Justin Bieber music for 3 hours straight http://planetsmilies.net/vomit-smiley-1538.gif

I'm not a very big fan of metal, but I like Kataklysm especially Blood In Heaven

[syker]

Linkin Park isnt metal, is it? if it is, i need to update my genres. from what i can remember, theyre rock/rap. (slap) i do listen to Amon Amarth, Whitechapel, Black Dahlia Murder, and Suicide Silence.

Suicide Silence gets old after a while, but its nice to listen to Genocide sometimes.
Out of all the BDM songs, i like Nocturnal, Black Valor, Necropolis, Everything Went Black, Closed Casket Requiem, A Vulgar Picture, What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse, and a few more. no way will i list them all. it would take too much space.
Possession is my most favorite Whitechapel song.

they should be forced to listen to the SAME song by Justin Beiber over and over again. to add onto that punishment, let them listen to the Jonas Brothers, too. that would be PURE torture.

[remixedcat]

linkin park is emo.

[Papahyooie]

linkin park is emo.

Gr... no they're not. They're metalcore-hip hop fusion. I personally don't listen to that much death metal, black metal, whatever, (but some every once in awhile) and personally couldn't care less about the differences. If it melts your face it melts your face. If something sounds good to me, I'll listen to it and fuck those who say "this isn't real metal" and whatnot. I personally just like my metal a little more melodic than growling and screaming.

"Emo" these days is used by most (ignorant) people to label anything that isn't pop, and kids who wear black listen to. Emo is actually stuff like The Promise Ring, Texas is the Reason, Dashboard Confessional, etc.

Of course some could say Linkin Park is emo because the lyrics are "emotional." And if that's what you mean, I guess that's correct then, but then most pop songs are emo too.

[remixedcat]

I meant lyric and tone wise. darker then most in that genre.

'bleed it out" sounds so happy but its emo as hell.

[Olithereal]

I meant lyric and tone wise. darker then most in that genre.

'bleed it out" sounds so happy but its emo as hell.

"Dark lyrics" doesn't make a band or a song emo. That's like saying: Post-rock, Doom metal, post metal, black metal, goth rock, goth metal, what ever, is emo.

Little question here, not meant to assault anyone or what ever, but since I've seen Suicide Silence posted here by someone...do you guys consider Deathcore as metal?

[syker]

"Emo" these days is used by most (ignorant) people to label anything that isn't pop, and kids who wear black listen to. Emo is actually stuff like The Promise Ring, Texas is the Reason, Dashboard Confessional, etc.


i wear black, dont listen to pop. im not emo, just an incredibly evil college teenager. i also listen to death metal (it is my most favorite genre, not to mention the only genre i will listen to continuously).

[syker]

"Dark lyrics" doesn't make a band or a song emo. That's like saying: Post-rock, Doom metal, post metal, black metal, goth rock, goth metal, what ever, is emo.

Little question here, not meant to assault anyone or what ever, but since I've seen Suicide Silence posted here by someone...do you guys consider Deathcore as metal?

i do, yes. deathcore and death metal are similar in a quite a few ways. they have to belong in a genre somewhere. country, rap, and hip hop make no sense. classical music is a CERTAIN NO. so it has to be metal.

[DanTheBanjoman]

Quite a useful poll you made here.

Also, I don't like them and I posted anyway, evil me.

[Frick]

Emos didn't exist when Linking Park released their first album. Mindfuck! :P

It's a lot of teenage angst though, and if you want to label that emo please do. And there was a lot of talk about nu-metal, don't know if that term exists anymore.. Haven't heard it in a long time.

[Olithereal]

i do, yes. deathcore and death metal are similar in a quite a few ways. they have to belong in a genre somewhere. country, rap, and hip hop make no sense. classical music is a CERTAIN NO. so it has to be metal.

Well we could always say it belongs to the "core" genre. Yes it does have a few similarities with metal, but far more with -core bands.

[Papahyooie]

Emos didn't exist when Linking Park released their first album. Mindfuck! :P


Emo existed long before Linkin Park. It started in the 80s with Rites of Spring. "Screamo" and "scene" came after. Scene and screamo (what most people normally think of when they hear emo, ie kids wearing black and eyeliner and crying about thier parents not understanding them) are not emo. Completely different sound.

[DanTheBanjoman]

Emo existed long before Linkin Park. It started in the 80s with Rites of Spring. "Screamo" and "scene" came after. Scene and screamo (what most people normally think of when they hear emo, ie kids wearing black and eyeliner and crying about thier parents not understanding them) are not emo. Completely different sound.

Chicken or the egg. Who cares? Linkin park is gay and emo's are annoying (no offense pp).

[Frick]

Emo existed long before Linkin Park. It started in the 80s with Rites of Spring. "Screamo" and "scene" came after. Scene and screamo (what most people normally think of when they hear emo, ie kids wearing black and eyeliner and crying about thier parents not understanding them) are not emo. Completely different sound.

But the term didn't exist right? I didn't hear anything about it until like ... 200something.

Linkin park is gay

So you must worship them right? :P

[Papahyooie]

Chicken or the egg. Who cares? Linkin park is gay and emo's are annoying (no offense pp).

To each his own. I like Linkin Park's older alblums. As for "emo's" being annoying, yea I can see that... When angst-ridden lyrics hit hormonal teenagers, a little bit of bitching is going to happen. However, most of what people consider annoying "emo kids" is actually scene style.

... not that I really care about all of this... of course I did in high school, but that's another story.

But the term didn't exist right? I didn't hear anything about it until like ... 200something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo

The term originated in the 80's. From where, nobody seems to really know.

Sorry to post a link to Emo in a metal thread lol... I know most of the time the two don't get along, but they all have thier roots in rock, so I don't see any reason why someone can't love both (which for the most part I do, I'm just not into the hardest of the hard kind of metal because frankly I'm a musician and I see no talent in it... not to start a fight, that's just how I feel.) I used to be all about it, but as I grow older I like it less and less.

[Frick]

Hey, whaddya know.

And I think we use the phrase emo differently. I'm thinking emo as in those kids trying their hardest to look depressed while listening to bad something-core, you seem to use it as a music style.

That aside, just listened to Twisted Sister's (good 'ol Heavy Metal!) Stay Hungry. Man that album is awesome!

[Papahyooie]

Exactly. We are using the term differently. It originated with "emotional-hardcore" as a musical style branched off of 80s punk. What you're referring to is a later adaptation of the name due to misunderstanding of the masses.

[Frick]

Exactly. We are using the term differently. It originated with "emotional-hardcore" as a musical style branched off of 80s punk. What you're referring to is a later adaptation of the name due to misunderstanding of the masses.

Just listened a bit to Rites of Spring, and I now understand what you're talking about. Pretty good actually. ^^

[Papahyooie]

I prefer Embrace myself (those were the two that really started it all) not to say Rites of Spring isn't good. If you want something a bit more modern and mainstream, try dashboard confessional.
My chemical romance and all those from that era started the whole "scene" scene (even though it was obviously imitative of punk) and though I can't argue that it is indeed emo, nobody can argue that it definitely is a completely different sound.

Just to keep this whole schpeil on topic, I'm not gonna lie, and the hardcore metal lovers can laugh at me all they want, but I love slipknot, mushroomhead, Korn, and Marilyn Manson. Take that.

EDIT: oh and nine inch nails.

[syker]

as for emo, i think of it as black clothes, eyeliner, supposed depression, probably somewhat insane, thinking they are hardcore, knowing they arent, and so on. i fit one description (the black clothes). back to linkin park, though. they dont do any of that stuff, except for wear black clothes, eyeliner, somewhat insane, thinking they are hardcore, and whatever else they may be. i dont know if i am hardcore or not, although i know that death metal IS hardcore to some people's opinions. papahyooie, you arent that far off the mark with your metal list. slipknot is hard rock/metal and mary manson is something close to light metal. he certainly isnt rock.

here is your possible description of emo: Marilyn Manson. another DEFINITE band describing emo: AFI.

[Papahyooie]

as for emo, i think of it as black clothes, eyeliner, supposed depression, probably somewhat insane, thinking they are hardcore, knowing they arent, and so on. i fit one description (the black clothes). back to linkin park, though. they dont do any of that stuff, except for wear black clothes, eyeliner, somewhat insane, thinking they are hardcore, and whatever else they may be. i dont know if i am hardcore or not, although i know that death metal IS hardcore to some people's opinions. papahyooie, you arent that far off the mark with your metal list. slipknot is hard rock/metal and mary manson is something close to light metal. he certainly isnt rock.

here is your possible description of emo: Marilyn Manson. another DEFINITE band describing emo: AFI.


No no no... you completely misunderstood me. Maralyn Manson is definitely nowhere near emo. AFI could be said to be emo, but of the newer breed. Hardcore is hard to define... I define it as anything that steps out of the norm and goes to extremes. Most metal bands by pure nature are hardcore. Linkin Park is "hardcore" in that they take a metal riff and fuse it with rap, coupled with lyrics fit for an "emo" song. They're not the norm. Lady Gaga (as much as we all probably hate her) could be considered "hardcore" because she goes out of her way in fasion and in her lyrics to push the envelope (though obviously less of a push than a metal band, say) Hell, you could even have hardcore country music... The only thing that isn't in any way hardcore is mainstream, cookie-cutter pop music. (pop music to include any genre, just that it's "popular" music, because they are catering to the most number of people possible, and therefore are not hardcore.)

[syker]

No no no... you completely misunderstood me. Maralyn Manson is definitely nowhere near emo. AFI could be said to be emo, but of the newer breed. Hardcore is hard to define... I define it as anything that steps out of the norm and goes to extremes. Most metal bands by pure nature are hardcore. Linkin Park is "hardcore" in that they take a metal riff and fuse it with rap, coupled with lyrics fit for an "emo" song. They're not the norm. Lady Gaga (as much as we all probably hate her) could be considered "hardcore" because she goes out of her way in fasion and in her lyrics to push the envelope (though obviously less of a push than a metal band, say) Hell, you could even have hardcore country music... The only thing that isn't in any way hardcore is mainstream, cookie-cutter pop music. (pop music to include any genre, just that it's "popular" music, because they are catering to the most number of people possible, and therefore are not hardcore.)

in the sense of description, Mary could be. but otherwise, he is (as yet) undefinable). i dont think country could truly be hardcore, but there probably could be "hard country". but in this forum, i am defining hardcore strictly under metal standards. hardcore metal, not hardcore general genres.

[syker]

that last post was an opinion, not a matter of fact. metalcore is the highest that i COULD go for linkin park. for now, i have no idea what marilyn manson could be, genre-wise.

[erocker]

Linkin Park + Metal = 0

I don't see how metal is affiliated with Linkin Park whatsoever and on top of that Linkin Park is just plain awful. Utter corporate shit.

[FreedomEclipse]

Linkin Park + Metal = 0

I don't see how metal is affiliated with Linkin Park whatsoever and on top of that Linkin Park is just plain awful. Utter corporate shit.

not that anyone cares - but their early material was classed as NuMetal/Rap-rock.

myself, i like many types of metal. depends what my mood is, but im mainly a fan of the progressive metal genre or bands that use different elements of music in their songs

[syker]

hey, i was just saying that this is the highest linkin park could ever progress to. i hate them because of their rap/rock genre. i hate rap and hip hop with a passion (i thought i could say that, since this is "rock and metal").

[Papahyooie]

that last post was an opinion, not a matter of fact. metalcore is the highest that i COULD go for linkin park. for now, i have no idea what marilyn manson could be, genre-wise.

Manson is actually classified (by different sources) as "heavy metal" "shock-rock" and "gothic hard rock."

Linkin Park combines "elements" of metal with rap. That makes them "nu-metal fusion." Their earlier stuff anyway... lately they're just pop for all I care.

[Olithereal]

Manson is actually classified (by different sources) as "heavy metal" "shock-rock" and "gothic hard rock."

Linkin Park combines "elements" of metal with rap. That makes them "nu-metal fusion." Their earlier stuff anyway... lately they're just pop for all I care.

And nu-metal is widely accepted as not being metal.

[Papahyooie]

And nu-metal is widely accepted as not being metal.

Only by elitists and purists. Those of us who don't ONLY listen to metal see the same defining characteristics. Slipknot, Mushroomhead, etc, are all classified as nu-metal, and I know very few people who would be able to hear a difference between them and death metal bands. It's splitting hairs. We could just as easily argue the difference between Phil Collins' sound and Michael Jackson's sound... but they're both pop. Every artist is going to put his/her/their own style into the music they make, and just because something is softer or harder, or incorporates elements from another musical style doesn't mean it isn't part of the same genre. Most people who enjoy more than one type of music will classify anything that has the characteristics of metal (characterized by highly amplified distortion, extended guitar solos, emphatic beats, and overall loudness.: taken from the wiki) as metal. Metal is an umbrella term to describe anything with those characteristics, just like pop is an umbrella term to describe anything with the characteristics of pop. If you want to stratify it further, then by all means, go ahead. I would never try to classify nu-metal music as death metal, black metal, gothic, etc, because those are stratified classifications. But they are all "metal." And nu-metal shares certain characteristics with all other types of metal, and therefore fits under the umbrella term of metal.

[Olithereal]

Only by elitists and purists. Those of us who don't ONLY listen to metal see the same defining characteristics. Slipknot, Mushroomhead, etc, are all classified as nu-metal, and I know very few people who would be able to hear a difference between them and death metal bands. It's splitting hairs. We could just as easily argue the difference between Phil Collins' sound and Michael Jackson's sound... but they're both pop. Every artist is going to put his/her/their own style into the music they make, and just because something is softer or harder, or incorporates elements from another musical style doesn't mean it isn't part of the same genre. Most people who enjoy more than one type of music will classify anything that has the characteristics of metal (characterized by highly amplified distortion, extended guitar solos, emphatic beats, and overall loudness.: taken from the wiki) as metal. Metal is an umbrella term to describe anything with those characteristics, just like pop is an umbrella term to describe anything with the characteristics of pop. If you want to stratify it further, then by all means, go ahead. I would never try to classify nu-metal music as death metal, black metal, gothic, etc, because those are stratified classifications. But they are all "metal." And nu-metal shares certain characteristics with all other types of metal, and therefore fits under the umbrella term of metal.

I see your point. For someone who doesn't like metal, for sure it'll sound the same. Nu-mental sure does take some characteristics from metal, but also a lot from other genres. I gotta say though, how many time have I heard someone call a rap song pop? or a pop song rap? Even if two genres have similarities doesn't mean they are under the same big "umbrella".

IMO, Nu-metal just misses to many characteristics from metal to be put under the metal genre. Only real characteristic it has are down-tuned guitars, and sometime some low harsh vocals.


But don't mind me. That's just me being an elitist :P

[Papahyooie]

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have used the word pop when talking about linkin park. I used the word "pop" as in Popular, as in mass produced, cookie cutter, just to sell records, lowest common denominator music. And linkin park used to be quite the opposite, but now they are just as bad as nickelback.

Don't get me wrong, I like metal. And it doesn't sound the same, but it all shares the same characteristics. You say nu-metal misses too many characteristics from metal. I say it misses too many characteristics from other sub-genres of metal (such as death metal, black metal, etc) to be part of those sub-genres, but youre confusing metal with a sub-genre of metal. It's ALL metal, it's just more specifically nu-metal or whatever.

[Wile E]

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have used the word pop when talking about linkin park. I used the word "pop" as in Popular, as in mass produced, cookie cutter, just to sell records, lowest common denominator music. And linkin park used to be quite the opposite, but now they are just as bad as nickelback.

Don't get me wrong, I like metal. And it doesn't sound the same, but it all shares the same characteristics. You say nu-metal misses too many characteristics from metal. I say it misses too many characteristics from other sub-genres of metal (such as death metal, black metal, etc) to be part of those sub-genres, but youre confusing metal with a sub-genre of metal. It's ALL metal, it's just more specifically nu-metal or whatever.

And that was the only point I was making to that twitch guy in the locked thread. It may not be Metal enough for an elitist's tastes, but it doesn't change the fact that it is classified as a type of metal. I like a lot of Core and Nu type metals, in addition to Goth and Death. Mudvayne is one of my favorite bands, but by an elitist's opinion, they don't classify as metal, yet they clearly are.

[WhiteLotus]

Does it really matter if it's nu- or -core? If it's got Metal in it, it's metal.

Seriously, people who try to categorise music genre to that degree have WAY too much time on their hands.

[syker]

I see your point. For someone who doesn't like metal, for sure it'll sound the same. Nu-mental sure does take some characteristics from metal, but also a lot from other genres. I gotta say though, how many time have I heard someone call a rap song pop? or a pop song rap? Even if two genres have similarities doesn't mean they are under the same big "umbrella".

IMO, Nu-metal just misses to many characteristics from metal to be put under the metal genre. Only real characteristic it has are down-tuned guitars, and sometime some low harsh vocals.


But don't mind me. That's just me being an elitist :P

i other people's opinions, i may be an elitist, too. i stand for death metal and black metal. metalcore is NOT what i consider metal (just gay crap). Linkin Park is hardly CLOSE to metal, and i compare them with Nickelback (both shit). and Nu-Metal is not directly metal, so therefore, it is not metal. it is simply a collection of characters of a group of genres and combined under the name "Nu-Metal"

[Papahyooie]

Keep in mind, that the original metal sounds nothing like what you classify as metal, syker. If anything has a right to be called "real metal" it's the first metal, and that is stuff like Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Judas Priest and shit. And they sound NOTHING like black metal or death metal. Then metal evolved into what such artists as Metallica, Slayer, and Megadeth put out. Don't like them? They were metal before your favorite artists existed. Hell what some of us call punk music was once called metal. Plus by your own admission, black metal and death metal are not "metal." If Nu-metal isn't metal because it has "nu" in front of it then black metal and death metal arent metal either because they have "black" and "death" in front of them. You cant just claim terms as your own arbitrarily.

[syker]

Keep in mind, that the original metal sounds nothing like what you classify as metal, syker. If anything has a right to be called "real metal" it's the first metal, and that is stuff like Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Judas Priest and shit. And they sound NOTHING like black metal or death metal. Then metal evolved into what such artists as Metallica, Slayer, and Megadeth put out. Don't like them? They were metal before your favorite artists existed. Hell what some of us call punk music was once called metal. Plus by your own admission, black metal and death metal are not "metal." If Nu-metal isn't metal because it has "nu" in front of it then black metal and death metal arent metal either because they have "black" and "death" in front of them. You cant just claim terms as your own arbitrarily.

yeah, i listen to black sabbath, slayer, some megadeth songs (remade, of course), and other artists. those are considered metal as well. i am not saying that they ARENT metal. i just like this version of metal more.

i also did not say that linkin park is NOT metal. i said that they are not of the EXACT metal lineage.

[DanTheBanjoman]

Actual metal does not include bitching about the definition of metal. Not caring and getting wasted instead is metal though.

[Papahyooie]

yeah, i listen to black sabbath, slayer, some megadeth songs (remade, of course), and other artists. those are considered metal as well. i am not saying that they ARENT metal. i just like this version of metal more.
i also did not say that linkin park is NOT metal. i said that they are not of the EXACT metal lineage.

Dude, thats exactly what you said. Roll the tape:

Nu-Metal is not directly metal, so therefore, it is not metal.


Actual metal does not include bitching about the definition of metal. Not caring and getting wasted instead is metal though.

Youre right, but most of the hardcore metal lovers I have met always bitch about what is and isn't metal.

[theJesus]

Damn, everybody, listen to Dan; just talk about the bands you like and quit trying to figure out what genre is what :rolleyes:

Behemoth is my favorite, and I tried making a list of all the other metal bands I really like, but there's hundreds of 'em lol

edit: As much as I wanted to stay out of the debate . . .
Only by elitists and purists. Those of us who don't ONLY listen to metal see the same defining characteristics.
I listen to music of all sorts, from calm and soothing ambient and piano music, to the most "unlistenable" grind/death, and lots in between . . . and I still make distinctions between "metal" and and "nu" or "core" stuff, but that's just me being picky.

[DanTheBanjoman]

Youre right, but most of the hardcore metal lovers I have met always bitch about what is and isn't metal.

I'm always right. Wise teaching #2: Being hardcore is for idiots, I'm just extremely true.

[Frick]

I'm always right.

Now you're being delusional.

[Papahyooie]

Now you're being delusional.
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[theJesus]

I hope he still has his ban shelter he should have built during the cold war flame war.

[UrbKlr]

To the OP and anyone who likes some strong, groovy death-metal! Through the Eyes of the Dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbpgHWMICnQ

The entire album, and album before, is amazing... One of my favorite bands.

[de.das.dude]

Now you're being delusional.

aha! my follower i see :D

[de.das.dude]

and heres slipknot??!!!!

[FreedomEclipse]

and heres slipknot??!!!!

they suck

[JanJan]

does anyone listen to eluveitie? their folk metal is top notch. i really like the flute and hurdy gurdy playing in the background.

which band like eluveitie that you would also recommend?

[Munki]

Dead thread resurrection:

Straight line stitch
Marilyn Manson
Five Finger Death Punch
Disturbed
Godsmack

(couple of em could be defined differently depending on the person listening to it)

[DanTheBanjoman]

Juliet, doh.


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[Screaming Beaver]

I only know Cannibal Corpse on that poll, are they all that death metal garbage? So much more to metal than that.

Try Tool for instance :)

[BumbleBee]

death metal isn't garbage :(

[twilyth]

There is some very good symphonic death metal - Serenia, Antagoria, Leaves eyes, etc.

[Screaming Beaver]

death metal isn't garbage :(

sorry as soon as i hear that noise that comes from those bands it makes me wish for nails on chalkboard or something to get that "music" from my head.

There is some very good symphonic death metal - Serenia, Antagoria, Leaves eyes, etc.

Listened to "The Path to Decay" by Serenia, that isn't close to death metal, similar to Nightwish. A poor version of Nightwish as well. Symphonic metal/power metal but none of that grunting, snarling, roaring shit.

If the other two are like that it is hardly the same as a band like Cannibal Corpse.

[Odameyer]

does anyone listen to eluveitie? their folk metal is top notch. i really like the flute and hurdy gurdy playing in the background.

which band like eluveitie that you would also recommend?
YES! 'Slania' is a great album

[A Cheese Danish]

does anyone listen to eluveitie? their folk metal is top notch. i really like the flute and hurdy gurdy playing in the background.

which band like eluveitie that you would also recommend?

Folk Metal is one of my favourite genres of Metal :)
Listen to Korpiklaani, Turisas, Tyr, Alestorm, Heidevolk, and any other bands that come up
in the searches. Enjoy!

[twilyth]

sorry as soon as i hear that noise that comes from those bands it makes me wish for nails on chalkboard or something to get that "music" from my head.



Listened to "The Path to Decay" by Serenia, that isn't close to death metal, similar to Nightwish. A poor version of Nightwish as well. Symphonic metal/power metal but none of that grunting, snarling, roaring shit.

If the other two are like that it is hardly the same as a band like Cannibal Corpse.
Isn't death metal more about the lyrics? All of those bands can broadly be classified as metal but it's the themes they sing about that I think puts them in the death metal genre. Personally I don't think you have to have a lot of grunting and growling to make something 'metal' - even though you do get some of that with some of the symphonic metal bands.

[Screaming Beaver]

Well my exposures to what people have called "death metal" are the vocals I described along with what can only be considered as "noise" with the instruments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVGcS5YWg_M

I mean WTF?

[Frick]

Well my exposures to what people have called "death metal" are the vocals I described along with what can only be considered as "noise" with the instruments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVGcS5YWg_M

I mean WTF?

It's not your thing obviously. I don't understand extreme jazz but I that does not invalidate that particular style.

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Don't look at that if you don't like Cannibal Corpse. I'm not a fan of them or the ones in the video above, but whatever.

Music elitism is so bloody boring.

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And this is one of my favourite bands ever.

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[Wile E]

I only know Cannibal Corpse on that poll, are they all that death metal garbage? So much more to metal than that.

Try Tool for instance :)

I like both.

Tool is actually my favorite band, though.

[Screaming Beaver]

Well I doubt there are many people who like everything, there is always going to be some genre or just a subgenre that is disliked. I don't think its elitism to find something personally distasteful. I don't think those who DO like death metal are inferior or anything, just having odd taste to me :P

I'll try out a few of those videos tomorrow

^ +1 endorsement for Tool :)

[BumbleBee]

give this a listen and tell me if you think it's garbage

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[Screaming Beaver]

Those sound more like progressive metal to me...

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^ close to what i'm talking about but still not quite there which is why its decent enough for me