iPad Owners Are ‘Selfish Elites.’

[SK-1]

It’s not exactly official, but should also surprise no one: According to a new study the psychological profile of iPad owners can be summed up as “selfish elites” while have-not critics are “independent geeks.”
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Of course the “haves” would probably call the “have nots” “cheap wannabes” to which the “have nots” would retort: “FANBOI!!”

Which is why we should stick to the science.

Consumer research firm MyType conducted the study, in which opinions of 20,000 people were analyzed between March and May. The firm’s conclusion was that iPad owners tend to be wealthy, sophisticated, highly educated and disproportionately interested in business and finance, while they scored terribly in the areas of altruism and kindness. In other words, “selfish elites.”

They are six times more likely to be “wealthy, well-educated, power-hungry, over-achieving, sophisticated, unkind and non-altruistic 30-50 year olds,” MyType’s Tim Koelkebeck told Wired.com.

96 percent those most likely to criticize the iPad, on the other hand, don’t even own one, although as geeks, they were slightly more likely to do so than the average population — and far more likely to have an opinion about the device one way or the other (updated). This group tends to be “self-directed young people who look down on conformity and are interested in videogames, computers, electronics, science and the internet,” said Koelkebeck.

MORE: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/ipad-owner-are-selfish-elites-critics-are-independent-geeks-says-study/

EDIT: I just realized I posted this in gadgets.. is news more appropriate?

[erocker]

Consumer research firm MyType conducted the study, in which opinions of 20,000 people were analyzed between March and May. The firm’s conclusion was that iPad owners tend to be wealthy, sophisticated, highly educated and disproportionately interested in business and finance, while they scored terribly in the areas of altruism and kindness. In other words, “selfish elites.”

"selfish elites" = people ruining the gad damned earth. There should be a day known as "punch an iPod user in the face" day.

[yogurt_21]

again with the poor use of the term "well educated" when speaking about a product it needs to be made clear the difference between someone who's worked in aspecific field of study and earned a graduates degree and a consumer who's educated on the product.

in this case it's a misleading statement and makes the author tainted as in he's part of the "selfish elite" and is trying to make all non ipad owners sound like they have no idea what it can or cannot do. this is simply untrue.

[entropy13]

I only personally know of one iPad owner, and it was only a gift for him. Never knew anyone else with one, because they are indeed 'selfish elites'.

[Hybrid_theory]

I have an iPod and iPhone, and for the reason of this. The iPod has a nice HD on it for tv shows and music, and comes at a reasonable price. The iPhone, well Android smartphones werent available really yet. Was just one with a crappy keyboard on it. But anyway it was a good choice compared to a BB storm and im happy with that. As for the iPad, neat toy but not worth the money. I'll never buy a mac.

[Wile E]

I have an iPhone 3GS, as it was the best phone for the money with the best display and touch screen at buying time. The Android choices were more expensive, and had crappier screens and touch. And Android wasn't exactly a great OS at that time either.

[yogurt_21]

I have an iPhone 3GS, as it was the best phone for the money with the best display and touch screen at buying time. The Android choices were more expensive, and had crappier screens and touch. And Android wasn't exactly a great OS at that time either.

see but the iphone is different entirely imo everyone needs a phone, not everyone needs a tablet, making the ipad by nature of type of device already promoting elitism. The when you factor in the price tag combined with the lack of function over other tablets or laptops and you get a novelty device that is only bought for its name/brand.

we used to have iphones at work becuase they server out functions best, we not use droid incredibles because it was time for renual and well the incredible provides more function for what we need.

[Steevo]

The ipad would be good for a person who travels alot, wants their media large enough to see, easy enough to transport, has enough know how to host a server with their media for on the fly change ups, and has the patients to do with out a few items or make do.


That leaves about .000005% off the population. The rest of the owners are just starschmucks blogger twats.

[Wile E]

Yeah, but those people that could use iPad in that manner could probably find a superior device to achieve the same results.

I'd take an iPad if given to me, but I would never buy one.

[de.das.dude]

i fuckin hate apple. even if they gave me something for free, i'd sell it and get some bucks.

[remixedcat]

pretty much apple just released it becuase they wanted something to sell. I would never use one you cant store it very well. I have a very large purse and it would be even too bulky for it. I would take a MS courier anyday when they are released becuase they fold like a laptop and have two screens with a much more intuitive interface. I would get one for my design work. Please release the courier MS!!!!!

[Wile E]

pretty much apple just released it becuase they wanted something to sell. I would never use one you cant store it very well. I have a very large purse and it would be even too bulky for it. I would take a MS courier anyday when they are released becuase they fold like a laptop and have two screens with a much more intuitive interface. I would get one for my design work. Please release the courier MS!!!!!

I find 2 screens inferior in a device this size.

And how much more intuitive do you want? iOS on iPhone and iPad is as intuitive as it gets. It takes no thought to operate at all.

[remixedcat]

I thought it was too flashy for my tastes. the constant animations for every thing was obnoxious in a way. I felt dumbed down using it. Like my brain cells were gonna go away. It felt way too n00bish. at least the driod has more customizations and stuff. It felt like a power user UI and not something made for everyone. To me it felt more professional and not like some blinged out thing for teens.

[Wile E]

I thought it was too flashy for my tastes. the constant animations for every thing was obnoxious in a way. I felt dumbed down using it. Like my brain cells were gonna go away. It felt way too n00bish. at least the driod has more customizations and stuff. It felt like a power user UI and not something made for everyone. To me it felt more professional and not like some blinged out thing for teens.

That has nothing to do with intuition. lol.

That just means you liked something else better.

[remixedcat]

well there's a difference between being intuitive interface and an interface designed for people who are n00bs. apple has to baby down thier products for thier target demographic.

[Wile E]

No they don't. It's not dumbed down, it's just clean and simple. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I am a power user, and I still prefer Apple's interfaces. I want all the busy bullshit hidden until I call it up.

[remixedcat]

Yes but apples target demographic feels helpless and they freak out when they have to use a pc.

aY_CidIS8YM

apple's target demographic. LMAO!!!!!!

[Wile E]

That's because a PC's interface isn't as intuitive. ;)

[entropy13]

I find Apple's interface as quite weird. Doing things with my friend's iPad was quite weird. Doing things with my friends' various versions of iPods was quite weird too. That rotating circle is just stupid.

[de.das.dude]

I find Apple's interface as quite weird. Doing things with my friend's iPad was quite weird. Doing things with my friends' various versions of iPods was quite weird too. That rotating circle is just stupid.

thats cuz iPad was meant for weird selfish elites.

[de.das.dude]

yes but apples target demographic feels helpless and they freak out when they have to use a pc.

ay_cidis8ym

apple's target demographic. Lmao!!!!!!

lmao!!!!

[remixedcat]

Like there's this one woman I worked with that completely freaked out when she tried to use windows vista for the first time. She said she has never used a windows pc in her life. LOLz were had.

[Wile E]

I find Apple's interface as quite weird. Doing things with my friend's iPad was quite weird. Doing things with my friends' various versions of iPods was quite weird too. That rotating circle is just stupid.

The circle is better for variable seek speeds. Why do you think pros use dials when editing anything based on a timeline?

[entropy13]

The circle is better for variable seek speeds. Why do you think pros use dials when editing anything based on a timeline?

They are too sensitive though. And why would you need to seek when almost always the people with iPods leave it at shuffle/random anyway?

With my phone I randomize it too, although it's only one playlist (J-pop/anime songs, some Stepmania/DDR/GuitarFreaks/DrumMania songs, and some other songs that are in English).

[remixedcat]

everything is in circles when it involves celene dion. Prolly why apple did that. They love her.

[Wile E]

Like there's this one woman I worked with that completely freaked out when she tried to use windows vista for the first time. She said she has never used a windows pc in her life. LOLz were had.

Oh, you mean how most lifetime Windows users first react to OS X?

See what I mean? This goes both ways. You can't bash something based on an interface, it's a matter of personal taste.

I personally laugh at people who blindly bash Apple OSes without actually having tried to use it for an extended period to get used to it.

Just hating a product because it's an Apple is just as stupid as loving a product just because it's brand X. Apple could have a truly ingenious and spectacular product and you would bash it because of its name, yet brand X might have a product that's inferior in every way, but you would buy it over the Apple because it's brand X.

Both stances are completely moronic.

[Wile E]

They are too sensitive though. And why would you need to seek when almost always the people with iPods leave it at shuffle/random anyway?

With my phone I randomize it too, although it's only one playlist (J-pop/anime songs, some Stepmania/DDR/GuitarFreaks/DrumMania songs, and some other songs that are in English).

I meant more like seeking thru a large list of artists or albums. It's much better for that than just holding a button, or tapping it a million times.

And I almost never use shuffle.

[remixedcat]

naw shit son! it's more then just interface and brand. it's thier corporate nature and the fact they are control freaks and the apple tax. it's way more complicated then I even make it out to be.

I have my reasons to hate them, you have your reasons to like them. I just pay more attention to detail then other people.

Most people are happy with not having thier EQs on on wmp or itunes, most people never UXtheme hack windows, or attempt to change thier look and feel of OSX, most people are content being consumers and those people are ok with apple. Hell there's some people who still are using the default ringtones on thier cellphones and still have the teletubby windows xp "bliss" background on thier windows xp computers. Those people are ok with fewer choices for thier gadgets.

I am a power user who has no comfort zone. I change everything I see fit. I hate restrictions. I hate being told what to do with my own device. I love complex interfaces because I know what my device can do. Not what some marketing people wants it to do. I Love having more information at my fingertips. I was pissed when they removed the total playtime/size of the current playlist in windows media player 11! wmp 10 had the info on the bottom for every view. Now all they have is this bug ugly thing on the top you can't get rid of. But I sitll use 1 becuase it works with syncing well with my fuze.

These above reasons are a lot of why i use a server OS! It feels more powerful, gives me mroe options and tools, and it's more versatile. This also has me interested in linux greatly too. I prefer real OSes.

BTW I used OSX for 3 months on a job. I hated it so much. When I came home to my pc I felt liberated!

[Wile E]

OS X doesn't have fewer choices. Anything you can get to run in BSD/*nix, you can get to run in OS X. In that respect, they have MORE customization options than Windows. Just because you don't know how to go about it, doesn't mean the options aren't there. Again, I bet you didn't spend any meaningful time with OS X, and just shrugged it off after trying it only briefly.

Control freaks? Sure. Can't argue that. But that isn't a problem to those that aren't tech savvy, because they don't need anything more that what is already provided, or else they would've bought something else. It's also not a prob to the tech savvy, because we know how to fix the issue.

As far as their corporate nature, that's a bunch of bullshit if I ever heard it. Name one tech company that isn't only concerned with getting your money hand over fist. (hint: It doesn't exist.)

I have yet to hear any good reasons for somebody hating an entire brand.

[remixedcat]

OMG You crack me up WE!!!!!

[entropy13]

I meant more like seeking thru a large list of artists or albums. It's much better for that than just holding a button, or tapping it a million times.

And I almost never use shuffle.

I don't know about the new iPods though, but with my music player I just need to type "G" to go to the artists starting with a G in their name. Incidentally though it's also a phone with a camera and java games.

[FordGT90Concept]

I have yet to hear any good reasons for somebody hating an entire brand.
Crappy customer service and/or pathetic products. In the digital realm, add incompatibility: intentional or otherwise.

[Wile E]

I don't know about the new iPods though, but with my music player I just need to type "G" to go to the artists starting with a G in their name. Incidentally though it's also a phone with a camera and java games.

Iphone does that as well.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100802/photo.jpg

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I thought it was too flashy for my tastes. the constant animations for every thing was obnoxious in a way. I felt dumbed down using it. Like my brain cells were gonna go away. It felt way too n00bish. at least the driod has more customizations and stuff. It felt like a power user UI and not something made for everyone. To me it felt more professional and not like some blinged out thing for teens.


Definition of an elitist.

[Wile E]

Crappy customer service and/or pathetic products. In the digital realm, add incompatibility: intentional or otherwise.

That doesn't apply for every single product in the brand. Yeah, they have things not worth their cost, like their notebooks, but they also have great products, like their iMacs.

And iPod compatibility is a terrible argument. lol. The iPhone/iPod is compatible with more accessories and peripherals than any other pmp or smart phone.

Customer service? Maybe. I never had to deal with them. My best friend has a few times, and has less complaints about them than Dell, but my data set is limited, so I can't say.

Sorry, still no good reason to hate an entire brand. There hardly ever is. You are just a typical anti-Apple zealot full of a lot of hot air, but no real facts to base your decision on.

[remixedcat]

the apple tax is another reason I despise them. If my hexacore PC I designed were an an apple computer it would cost 3-4X more! why? you're paying for a brand and an image.

[de.das.dude]

Iphone does that as well.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100802/photo.jpg

so does phones 1/4th the price of an iphone.

[de.das.dude]

the apple tax is another reason I despise them. If my hexacore PC I designed were an an apple computer it would cost 3-4X more! why? you're paying for a brand and an image.

same thing wid intel. i have to pay so much more!!!! just to pay for their tdong.. tdondtang tdongtang adverts.

[remixedcat]

and for some reason the price of Intel went up right after they announced thier deal with apple when they switched over from the PPC (G4) standard.

[entropy13]

Iphone does that as well.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100802/photo.jpg

There was an iPhone in 2005??? ZOMG!!!

Why 2005? Because that was when I got my first Walkman phone. It's only "negative" would be space: 470MB built-in with a free 512MB card, then afterwards a 2GB one. But it also had 3G, 2MP camera.

And they're not really comparable anyway even with my current phone, w995 since a) my phone isn't touchscreen b) it isn't a "smart phone" c) it's actually quite small compared to the iPhone d) I can use SIM cards of all 5 telecom companies with this (the iPhones are stuck with either of the two major ones) e) my phone is obviously cheaper.

[Wile E]

the apple tax is another reason I despise them. If my hexacore PC I designed were an an apple computer it would cost 3-4X more! why? you're paying for a brand and an image.

It would not cost 3x-4x more for the same hardware from any other oem for the same hardware and features. That is only true of their laptops. You can't compare OEM vs self built. 2 entirely different markets.

Sorry, but you are simply wrong.

[Wile E]

so does phones 1/4th the price of an iphone.

Ummm, the iPhone cost me $200. No $50 phone does the same things an iPhone does.

[remixedcat]

200 dollars with a 2 year sentance from ATT. the retail value is 700-900 bucks.

I tried to go to apples site to config the system I wanted (almost my hexacore's specs from newegg) and it came up as almost 4 thousand bucks.

Oh and BTW apple's hardware architecture is not much different then PCs! The only differences are EFI instead of BIOS and GUID partition table instead of MBR. and PCs are now even having those. So what do you get with the apple name? A style and an image and a babied down OS.

people think they look good, but I think they look like white plastic boxes.

and what can they do that PCs can't? nothing.


Used to be the "creative people's computer" but then we got photoshop and adobe premiere and other applications like that for the PC so there is no reason to pic a mac besides personal style. Hell adobe hates apple right now LOL> (u)

[entropy13]

I'll be making a list, please identify which of these would be the most similar to the iPhone.

HTC Tattoo
Samsung Galaxy S
Samsung i8000 Omnia 2
Samsung Omnia i900
Nokia N900
Nokia X6
Sony Ericsson Xperia X1
HTC Magic Android

Multiple choices is possible.

[Laurijan]

Man i hate this "i"ing iRipOffPad!

[Wile E]

200 dollars with a 2 year sentance from ATT. the retail value is 700-900 bucks.

I tried to go to apples site to config the system I wanted (almost my hexacore's specs from newegg) and it came up as almost 4 thousand bucks.

Oh and BTW apple's hardware architecture is not much different then PCs! The only differences are EFI instead of BIOS and GUID partition table instead of MBR. and PCs are now even having those. So what do you get with the apple name? A style and an image and a babied down OS.

people think they look good, but I think they look like white plastic boxes.

and what can they do that PCs can't? nothing.


Used to be the "creative people's computer" but then we got photoshop and adobe premiere and other applications like that for the PC so there is no reason to pic a mac besides personal style. Hell adobe hates apple right now LOL> (u)Retail value doesn't mean squat. All that matters is the end results. AT&T is better around here so I was gonna use them anyway, and the phone only cost me $200. That's all I care.

Here we go again. Yeah, almost $4k. Now configure the same thing form another oem using the same type of chips and boards. ;) You pay the same, yet you don't get nearly as sturdy or nice as a case. Apple just doesn't have any low-end towers. That doesn't mean they are overpriced. You have to consider that they have Server mobos, and use Xeon chips. You get exactly what you are paying for. If you build a computer with any other parts, it's not a direct and fair comparison.

Yeah, I know the architecture is the same. And the OS isn't babied down at all. Please, try knowing what you are talking about before speaking. OS X can do everything that *nix can do. What do you think it's based on?

And what can PCs do that Macs can't?

And what's wrong with picking a product that suits your style? Especially when it doesn't actually cost more than competing products. What, you don't pick things like cases to suit your style? That's a completely asinine argument. Of course people buy things that suit their style. If we didn't, we'd all have the same fucking things.

[remixedcat]

@ entropy

HTC's got the style to match it and normally have better specs.
Nokia's expressmusic is made for media stuff and they also have ovi apps which are free and are sideloaded. (ovi maps is really good)
Samsung's touchscreen phones are very affordable and can even be bought on prepaid networks like straight talk.

I have to say HTC is the most well rounded I've seen. I want one.

@ WE

It's funny most of apple's motherboards they use and laptops and phone products are made by foxxconn the people who make dell's mobos! LOL> (u)

[Wile E]

I'll be making a list, please identify which of these would be the most similar to the iPhone.

HTC Tattoo
Samsung Galaxy S
Samsung i8000 Omnia 2
Samsung Omnia i900
Nokia N900
Nokia X6
Sony Ericsson Xperia X1
HTC Magic Android

Multiple choices is possible.Whichever ones are touch screen and run Android. Just check reviews for screen quality and touch sensitivity.

[entropy13]

Whichever ones are touch screen and run Android. Just check reviews for screen quality and touch sensitivity.

HTC Tattoo
Samsung Galaxy S
HTC Magic Android

Those three then. The Samsung is P28,500 ($630) over here, the iPhone 3GS is P29,995 ($665). HTC Tattoo is cheapest at P16,995 ($376). The Magic is at P21,500 ($476). All have the same plans from the same telecom company, so the price differences are due to the phones. And the Samsung is more preferred in the couple of reviews I read.

[remixedcat]

So Samsung seems more suited for you (u) They are pretty affordable even off contract.

[entropy13]

So Samsung seems more suited for you (u) They are pretty affordable even off contract.

LOL I made the list for a comparison only. Although I do like the new Xperia X10 (but I haven't seen it here yet, only posters and ads lol)

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lol @ going-nowhere-thread



LOL I made the list for a comparison only. Although I do like the new Xperia X10 (but I haven't seen it here yet, only posters and ads lol)

NO. it's getting 2.1 when almost everyone else is already running 2.2. that's fucked up.

[remixedcat]

Isnt that how most threads are at this site??? LOL> (u)

[entropy13]

lol @ going-nowhere-thread





NO. it's getting 2.1 when almost everyone else is already running 2.2. that's fucked up.

None of the 2.2 phones are here.

[pr0n Inspector]

None of the 2.2 phones are here.

Galaxy S will have 2.2 when X10 gets its 2.1 update.

[entropy13]

Galaxy S will have 2.2 when X10 gets its 2.1 update.

So by Q4 2010 here one phone with 2.2 and one phone with 2.1 then, 2 phones with Android 2.x in total. The HTC's available thus far are with 1.x's

[remixedcat]

This mp3 player copied off iphone's interface LMAO...... From Visual land.....

let's go to Visual Land! (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855629001)

This shows how unoriginal companies are.

[entropy13]

This mp3 player copied off iphone's interface LMAO...... From Visual land.....

let's go to Visual Land! (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855629001)

This shows how unoriginal companies are.

Nah it's not really an "Apple did great so we should copy them" example.

There are multiple Polystation 3's...does that mean the PS3 is the best console, at the least in terms of design?

[remixedcat]

I just showed how companies only copy off eachother instead of being innovative on thier own.

mapquest copied off google maps interface. but did thier routing engine improve? Nope! still gives a crappy route to most destinations I enter in from my location. They used to have thier own unique layout and site design. They try to look better but they don't route any better then they did back in 2000 when I first used thier site. Mapquest is infamous for thier bad directions!

[de.das.dude]

Ummm, the iPhone cost me $200. No $50 phone does the same things an iPhone does.

yes it can. why 50? i an shw you one for 25.

[remixedcat]

and 200 dollars on a 2 year contract actually in NOT a good value. There are so many droids that are 100 dollars or less here on 2 yr contract. The HTC aria (PWNZ iphone) is 80 bucks in my area in 2yr contract. They have a desire that's 100 as well.

[Reventon]

Oh, you mean how most lifetime Windows users first react to OS X?

See what I mean? This goes both ways. You can't bash something based on an interface, it's a matter of personal taste.

I personally laugh at people who blindly bash Apple OSes without actually having tried to use it for an extended period to get used to it.

Just hating a product because it's an Apple is just as stupid as loving a product just because it's brand X. Apple could have a truly ingenious and spectacular product and you would bash it because of its name, yet brand X might have a product that's inferior in every way, but you would buy it over the Apple because it's brand X.

Both stances are completely moronic.

I don't think it's so much as people hate the brand, they just don't want to join the group of people who use the brand, generally because that group is full of idiots or 'selfish elites.'

[remixedcat]

idouches is what they all call em. or iholes or isheeple. LMAO (u)

Sandisk even ran a promo against them about sheeple LOL (u)

That one vid that was mentioned earlier "I don't care" is a great summary of most iholes.

I had one person tell me thier 3 year old 13 inch white macbook (not pro) was better then my pc just because apple made thiers. I was like WTF? What are your specs? They couldn't even name thier specs!!!!! They just rattled off about what "apps" it had installed and knew nothing about the guts of the system. I LOLed.

[de.das.dude]

chack this (http://www.generalnonsense.net/showthread.php?t=3508) thread

[remixedcat]

done (u)

[jmcslob]

Thread title needs changed to
"Apple owners are Selfish"

[pr0n Inspector]

This is getting more and more retarded.

[Wile E]

and 200 dollars on a 2 year contract actually in NOT a good value. There are so many droids that are 100 dollars or less here on 2 yr contract. The HTC aria (PWNZ iphone) is 80 bucks in my area in 2yr contract. They have a desire that's 100 as well.

On AT&T? With Android OS? With a 960x640 resolution or better? With a touch screen as smooth as iPhone?

If it fails on any of those fronts, it is not better than iPhone.

I still want someone to port Android over to the iPhone, then I could have exactly what I want in a phone. I'm not a huge fan of iOS, but the iPhone hardware is pretty much exactly what I'm after.

[remixedcat]

ATT can go suck my cock. LOL. If I had one.

[Wile E]

AT&T is better here.

[remixedcat]

Sucks here. That's another reason nobody here has iphones as well. the few who did had like shitty coverage the internet was not worth it. Youtube vids were slooooooowww and buffered like realplayer! the sprint coverage and verizon coverage was so much better. the HTCs played YT vids about 60% as smooth as my connection. ATT only has stronger presence in a pocket area around mine, but venture out of it and you get shit.

[Wile E]

Yeah, the best carrier definitely depends on your area. Verizon is slow as balls around here. Sprint has completely shit coverage but with good speeds when you can get it. Tmobile is a total joke in both coverage and speed. AT&T has equal coverage to Verizon, with the best speed of all of them.

[entropy13]

I don't know why Apple's still sticking with just one provider there. You can buy iPhones from the two major telecoms here, albeit they're the most expensive phones lol

The only plan that's more expensive than the iPhone plan is the "Two phones" plan, usually a Blackberry phone plus some other high end phone.

[remixedcat]

I don't know why the hell more prepaid hasn't taken off. I mean, lots of people have bad credit now with the housing crash and this recent 'recession' we've had in the states. You think more providers would take advantage of it.

The only good prepaid covg. here in my area is tracfone and they have crappy phones. I got the best one from them and it was 30 bucks. arrg. there is boost mobile that has good phones, but the coverage is THE worst of all the prepaid in my area and the second worse overall provider. ATT prepaid has good phones even with social media apps and navigation apps, however If I got just 10 miles east or west I have no bars. I wanted to go with them and get a touchscreen prepaid or a samsung 'blackberry form factor' phone that both had apps on them, but having good coverage in the event of an emergency was #1.

If the carriers would get together or a decent company would have more multi-network prepaid like tracfone and had at least 2-3 bars at least 30 miles east or west of my home and at least 2 bars in between my city and the two other metro areas I frequent and had nice touchscreen smart phones I would be all for it. But there is not sadly.

kroger has iwireless but its as bad as boost mobile's is here. they have nicer phones.

ATT has good phones bad coverage

verizon prepaid requires more micromanaging and they do not have the best phones for my area, however it could be a possibility.

virgin mobile has more spansive coverage but there is at least a 1 hour time gap between the two metro areas I frequent and it would be the area I would need it the most since there are no real stops over on that route. Plus it's a bit wonky even close to home my block will have only 3 bars tops but 1 mile away has full coverage.

grrr this makes me so mad there is not one cellphone provider with sense. Of course most people don't have this problem and not go places alot but I do. I also live in an area that is not a major city and often gets forgotten. Most companies don't think it's worth it but there are a lot of truckers here that could use phones like droids and stuff and can really use to have more options that don't involve credit.

It seems as if they want the areas like mine to suffer..... arrrg. unless you have a frikin contract which I do not want that BS!!!! my credit kinda sucks.

[pr0n Inspector]

What does prepaid have to do with credit? You could just paid bills with money orders or something like that.

[jmcslob]

You don't need a Contract with any Carrier if you already own the equipment..
You just need to be able to pay an Industry Average $18-$36 activation fee, The first months and second months payment up front... which for most carriers would be around $156 to start + taxes

and you would do that because you would have..
No ETF and unlike the prepaid services you get all the bells and whistles that your device is capable of..Like Internet, Mobile Tv, Games etc...

If you don't care about stuff like that go with a Straight Talk phone for $45 a month for unlimited/unlimited with no Games option as they have equal coverage to AT&T's go phone which you can get for $59.99 a month unlimited/media net capable but extra plans

[remixedcat]

straight talk got rid of the sumsung finesse. Plus they are tracfone with a different style. the best phone they have is a blackberry clone.

and most phone OOC are like 300-400 bucks. iphones are like 700-1200. ouch. I did se a nokia smartphone for 150 OOC. not too bad. samsung finesse are around 120 unlocked. I could get one easy but I don't feel like a monthly yet. My life is too scattered to know what I wanna obligate to. even without a contract you still want to pay on it anyways. it is just a monthly nag to me.

I want a smartphone that is tracfone style prepaid. buying chunks of minutes and having 90+ days instead of 30 days and not having a monthly nag. I would rather pay in halves of the year. Less nags. Now data would be measured in MB transferred not 0.5 units/to open browser and .30/min every minute I surf the wap. I hate how tracfone does it. then they charge you for ringtones and there is no way to have custom unless you bluetooth hack or record with the sound recorder but it sounds like shite. I even used a website to send the link to your RT with SMS and it would not let me download the RT it said "unsupported content" and would not let mt get it.

Oh well mabye someday I'll find a decent setup. For now I don't call alot so it is ok as it is.

[Tigger]

I had a iphone 3g, but swapped it for a proper moddable device, a xperia x10. I prefer the xperia without a doubt, it runs android, not some propriatry crap.

I dont like the ipad, its too big, for something as big as that which needs a bag to carry it in (unless you want mugging) i would rather buy a laptop.

Wile E, you Can run android on a iphone, there is a video somewere if you google.

[Wile E]

Android on iPhone is not stable. No power saving features are enabled. You get about an hour of battery life.