How Do Eurofags Survive?

[Reventon]

If you're a construction worker, farmer, outdoorsman and you live in Europe, what do you drive? I don't get it.

[Steevo]

Go watch some Top Gear and you will understand.


Most of Europe is halfway between Mexico and US for cars.

[DrPepper]

If you're a construction worker, farmer, outdoorsman and you live in Europe, what do you drive? I don't get it.

We drive cars like you humans.

[Reventon]

I mean something that has some function like a truck. You can't use mini cars to haul things or work on a farm. It just doesn't work like that.

[DaveK]

It's called a tractor.

[Reventon]

Can't drive a tractor on the highway.

[Polaris573]

I mean something that has some function like a truck. You can't use mini cars to haul things or work on a farm. It just doesn't work like that.

Stop trolling of course there are trucks in Europe. Drop the $$ and you can have a Chevy Silverado Quad Cab. Semis exist too.

The more you know.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_G-Class

There are also these nifty things called vans......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Sprinter

Can't drive a tractor on the highway.

Why would you need to?

Oh and my avatar represents how I felt when I read this thread.

[Reventon]

Lol honestly I'm not trolling. I've seen video of the streets of multiple European countries and I don't ever remember seeing anything other than a midget car, a Bentley, or a semi. You can't rely on a van to haul a 15,000 lb. load either.

[DrPepper]

I mean something that has some function like a truck. You can't use mini cars to haul things or work on a farm. It just doesn't work like that.

Builders = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Transit

Farmers and outdoorsmen = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Landrover2a.jpg

Very few people drive pickup trucks in Britain. Only dedicated hunters or people who need to haul something occaisonally but also want it for driving so they get a Toyota pickup.

[Reventon]

That's what I'm referring to. Pickup trucks have so many useful functions that not even SUVs can deliver.

[DrPepper]

That's what I'm referring to. Pickup trucks have so many useful functions that not even SUVs can deliver.

Not here though. Most prefer to get a Land Rover since most hunters are farmers as well and they have better off-road.

Anyone who drives an SUV in the UK is a twat. The roads are already too small and tight turns especially in the towns where before there were roads for cars they were for pedestrians and they just put roads on them and they are waaay too small.

[Papahyooie]

When I move to the UK i'm totally buying a Hummer H2 to bring with me.

[Olithereal]

Lol honestly I'm not trolling. I've seen video of the streets of multiple European countries and I don't ever remember seeing anything other than a midget car, a Bentley, or a semi. You can't rely on a van to haul a 15,000 lb. load either.

Thing is, in Europe, people won't buy a god damned truck if they don't need one. I know way to many people here in North America who buys one just "because".

[DrPepper]

When I move to the UK i'm totally buying a Hummer H2 to bring with me.

Well the thing is the US couldn't invade Europe because your humvee's would get stuck in our narrow streets allowing us to effectively end you all :p (jk)

Thing is, in Europe, people won't buy a god damned truck if they don't need one. I know way to many people who buys one just because.

Exactly there is few reasons for anyone to get a truck in Europe. When I was in France, Belgium and Germany I saw no pickup trucks at all.

[DaveK]

We don't drive pickups because we don't need them and you need to realize our gas is twice the price here and we pay out the ass for insurance. Anything bigger than a 2.5L is going to cost a shit ton to insure. If our job doesn't require jeeps or vans, we drive cars.

We have vehicles for the necessary jobs. Construction workers usually drive vans, such as the Ford Transit which comes in 3 different sizes. Anything larger and a truck will do the job.

[DrPepper]

Ford Transits are the lifeblood of construction industry. I fucking hate the drivers of them though.

[Reventon]

When I move to the UK i'm totally buying a Hummer H2 to bring with me.

^

Thing is, in Europe, people won't buy a god damned truck if they don't need one. I know way to many people here in North America who buys one just "because".

Well yes, many people in the US have trucks for no reason. Even with that, at least 25%-30% of people who have trucks use them for what they are made for.

We don't drive pickups because we don't need them and you need to realize our gas is twice the price here and we pay out the ass for insurance. Anything bigger than a 2.5L is going to cost a shit ton to insure. If our job doesn't require jeeps or vans, we drive cars.

We have vehicles for the necessary jobs. Construction workers usually drive vans, such as the Ford Transit which comes in 3 different sizes. Anything larger and a truck will do the job.

It just seems weird. What do you do when you need to haul a fifth-wheel trailer? Surely semis are not cheap.

[Reventon]

Ford Transits are the lifeblood of construction industry. I fucking hate the drivers of them though.

Lol Ford Transits are just lol I really hate them.

[DaveK]

We don't tend to tow anything other than caravans and small trailers. Anything commercial and there's a vehicle for it.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/davidkinsella/40780_highres_05729-005.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/davidkinsella/40790_highres_05752-012.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/davidkinsella/123054_highres_09580-008.jpg

[DrPepper]

It just seems weird. What do you do when you need to haul a fifth-wheel trailer? Surely semis are not cheap.

Lol Ford Transits are just lol I really hate them.

I've never seen one of them in my life. If someone actually had one they'd probably use a Land Rover to tow it or a Jeep.

Whats up with transits ? Their very comfortable and can carry a shitload of stuff (illegal immigrants) in the back.

[Reventon]

We don't tend to tow anything other than caravans and small trailers. Anything commercial and there's a vehicle for it.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/davidkinsella/40780_highres_05729-005.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/davidkinsella/40790_highres_05752-012.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/davidkinsella/123054_highres_09580-008.jpg

Okay, but aren't those expensive?

I've never seen one of them in my life. If someone actually had one they'd probably use a Land Rover to tow it or a Jeep.

Whats up with transits ? Their very comfortable and can carry a shitload of stuff (illegal immigrants) in the back.

A Land Rover cannot tow a fifth-wheel. Neither can a Jeep. Not to mention they don't have the power, considering most fifth-wheel loads are usually quite heavy.

And if by Transits you mean the new ones they are the ugliest little things ever lol. The E-Series is a lot nicer.

[Papahyooie]

Well the thing is the US couldn't invade Europe because your humvee's would get stuck in our narrow streets allowing us to effectively end you all :p (jk).

Who said anything about the US invading europe? Im just gonna do it to piss you off. :p

[Reventon]

Lol the Humvee is the perfect vehicle for it's use in the military. Anything less would be a hindrance to the militarys operations.

[Steevo]

There are only four finger holes on that Rev.


Some of the guys in Iraq were driving old vehicles they came across as they had cupholders and better A/C.

[Reventon]

5FDP = Five Finger Death Punch, a band. That's their official emblem. Besides, what kind of brass knuckles has five finger holes?

[Wile E]

5FDP = 5 fags denying pussy

[erocker]

I would drive one of these in Europe: http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/erocker414/120-willys-jeep.jpg

Hell, I'd drive one anywhere. I wish Jeep would make a small Jeep like the old Willy's.

[Wile E]

My neighbor has a Willy's. It kicks ass.

[Reventon]

5FDP = 5 fags denying pussy

Yep, you know how gay they are.

[Papahyooie]

5FDP is pretty kickass... but Rev, please tell me you've heard the original of the song in your sig....

[Reventon]

Yes, Bad Company by Bad Company. It's good.

[Wile E]

Yep, you know how gay they are.

No, I just assumed because you listen to them.

[Reventon]

I must be gay then. Considering I listen to a band that only has 2 albums yet they played in the same event on the same stage as Rob Zombie who has been making music for 25 years. They must suck. My favorite band of all time is Led Zeppelin, can we assume I'm gay for listening to them as well?

[Wile E]

Do you watch the videos of Led Zeppelin?

And playing on the same stage as a famous person lends you no credibility as a band. It's meaningless.

[Reventon]

I've seen many videos of Led Zeppelin live.

And yes, playing with a music icon like Rob Zombie. Korn and Lamb of God also played. If Five Finger Death Punch sucked or was gay, there's no way they'd be playing with Rob Zombie. Rob Zombie is not a fucking soft chump.

[Wile E]

So you like watching half-dressed men in skin tight jeans?

And ever since he quit White Zombie, yes he is a fucking soft chump. And I worked for a band that opened for Chevelle. Doesn't. Mean. Shit. AT. ALL. Playing on the same stage as a big act doesn't mean anything. It doesn't make you a good band.

[DrPepper]

Okay, but aren't those expensive?



A Land Rover cannot tow a fifth-wheel. Neither can a Jeep. Not to mention they don't have the power, considering most fifth-wheel loads are usually quite heavy.

And if by Transits you mean the new ones they are the ugliest little things ever lol. The E-Series is a lot nicer.

All vans are fuck ugly they aren't for show they're for fat guys who need to carry alot of shit about who eat too much fat food and are slowly dying inside.

Who said anything about the US invading europe? Im just gonna do it to piss you off. :p

We don't let marines in here so fuck off :p

Lol the Humvee is the perfect vehicle for it's use in the military. Anything less would be a hindrance to the militarys operations.

You've never been in a Land Rover Wolf these fucking things can tow arty cannons through any kind of terrain without fail.

[Reventon]

Yes, but they are also made in the UK. Humvees are made in the US, for the US.

[Reventon]

So you like watching half-dressed men in skin tight jeans?

And ever since he quit White Zombie, yes he is a fucking soft chump. And I worked for a band that opened for Chevelle. Doesn't. Mean. Shit. AT. ALL. Playing on the same stage as a big act doesn't mean anything. It doesn't make you a good band.

I could care less how Robert Plant dresses he is one of the best rock vocalists ever. Jimmy Page is one of the guitarists ever. John Bonham is one of the best drummers ever. John Paul Jones is one of the most underrated musicians. They can wear whatever the fuck they want because they make amazing music.

What kind of music do you listen to? Disturbed? Avenged Sevenfold?

[DrPepper]

I could care less how Robert Plant dresses he is one of the best rock vocalists ever. Jimmy Page is one of the guitarists ever. John Bonham is one of the best drummers ever. John Paul Jones is one of the most underrated musicians. They can wear whatever the fuck they want because they make amazing music.

What kind of music do you listen to? Disturbed? Avenged Sevenfold?

Yeah Zep could prance about in womens clothes if they wanted they'd still be gods.

[Reventon]

Anyway, we are far off topic. I'm still wondering if everyone in Europe who needs to tow a fifth-wheel has a semi sitting at home to do the job.

[DrPepper]

Anyway, we are far off topic. I'm still wondering if everyone in Europe who needs to tow a fifth-wheel has a semi sitting at home to do the job.

No-one has a fifth wheel ? I'd never heard of them let alone see any.

[Reventon]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Gooseneck.jpg

http://www.appalachiantrailers.com/trailer-images-big/professional-grade-gooseneck-open-center-two-car-hauler-trailer.jpg

Really? You've never seen a gooseneck?

Do people in Europe have horses?

[DrPepper]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Gooseneck.jpg

http://www.appalachiantrailers.com/trailer-images-big/professional-grade-gooseneck-open-center-two-car-hauler-trailer.jpg

Really? You've never seen a gooseneck?

Do people in Europe have horses?

I've seen them at caravan parks but they get their using lorries.

Horses aren't native to America they came from Europe :p

[Reventon]

Exactly. Do people domesticate them? If so, how do they transport them if they need to? If no one has a pickup truck, they can't haul a fifth-wheel trailer to carry horses. Do they just have a big semi at home?

[DrPepper]

Exactly. Do people domesticate them? If so, how do they transport them if they need to? If no one has a pickup truck, they can't haul a fifth-wheel trailer to carry horses. Do they just have a big semi at home?

Nope just a jeep and a horse box

http://www.roadstuff.co.uk/client_files/default/horsebox.jpg

[Reventon]

That holds one horse. What happens when you have five?

Where I live I see people using pickup trucks every day in order to haul things like horses, building materials, boats, farm materials, other cars, campers, etc. People ever do anything like that in Europe?

[DrPepper]

That holds one horse. What happens when you have five?

Where I live I see people using pickup trucks every day in order to haul things like horses, building materials, boats, farm materials, other cars, campers, etc. People ever do anything like that in Europe?

Yeah we use jeeps pretty much for all that and if a jeep cant hold it a van can. Also for more than one horse you just get a bigger horsebox or you can rent a lorrie for large amounts of them.

[FordGT90Concept]

I mean something that has some function like a truck. You can't use mini cars to haul things or work on a farm. It just doesn't work like that.
Two words: Toyota Hilux

Basically, they drive what we call "compact pickups."


Builders = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Transit

Farmers and outdoorsmen = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Landrover2a.jpg

Very few people drive pickup trucks in Britain. Only dedicated hunters or people who need to haul something occaisonally but also want it for driving so they get a Toyota pickup.
Builders in America:
http://images.myride.com/images/vehicle/2008/Ford/F-350%20SD%20Crew%20Cab/staff/08_Ford_F350_SD_CrewCab_AG_13_(768x576).jpg

Farmers:
http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/08/13/16/56/2008_ford_f-150_lariat_supercrew_4wd-pic-8583.jpeg

Outdoorsman:
http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2009/08/31/20/20/1997_jeep_wrangler_2_dr_sport_4wd_convertible-pic-2366259478202163659.jpeg

You have your "lorries," we have our 18 wheelers (that is a "van" with a reefer):
http://www.mississippiinjurylawyerblog.com/18%20wheeler.jpg

Everything is bigger in the USA. XD

[Reventon]

I want to see a Jeep that can haul 20,000 lbs.

[Wile E]

I could care less how Robert Plant dresses he is one of the best rock vocalists ever. Jimmy Page is one of the guitarists ever. John Bonham is one of the best drummers ever. John Paul Jones is one of the most underrated musicians. They can wear whatever the fuck they want because they make amazing music.

What kind of music do you listen to? Disturbed? Avenged Sevenfold?

lol. I can't troll with a straight face anymore.

Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands as well. I used to have all of their vinyl before they were washed away in a flood. I have all the original CD pressings as well, which sound a shitload better than the remastered pieces of shit. Another victim of the loudness wars. :mad:

But my points about Zombie getting soft, and playing on stage with famous bands meaning nothing still stands.

I hate Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold. Cookie cutter crap. Never really listened to much 5FDP. Just thought trolling them with you would be a little fun. :D

[DrPepper]

I want to see a Jeep that can haul 20,000 lbs.

For anything that heavy we'd use a lorry or the person might have a pickup.

[FordGT90Concept]

Jeep? That can haul 10 tons? Ahahahahaha!!!!!! They ain't got the frame for it. XD


Horses aren't native to America they came from Europe :p
Lies:
http://www.ponyclubvic.org.au/?Page=132

Scientists believe that the earliest ancestor of the horse was a small animal about 25 to 50 cms high. They called this animal Eohippus (dawn horse) or Hyracotherium. It lived about 65 million years ago in what is now North America and Europe.
Horses are literally everywhere (except Antarctica and Australia).


Well the thing is the US couldn't invade Europe because your humvee's would get stuck in our narrow streets allowing us to effectively end you all :p (jk)
That's what this is for (in addition to removing mines):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Abrams_tank_with_mine_plow.jpg


Lol the Humvee is the perfect vehicle for it's use in the military. Anything less would be a hindrance to the militarys operations.
HMMVW is being phased out in favor of the MRAP, which is even bigger in every way.

[WhiteLotus]

fuck me the fail in this thread is killing me.


Builders: The Ford Transit Van, actually built to accommodate the dimensions of regularly used materials.
Farmers: The Tractor, built to pull just about anything through anything. And yes these things do drive on the high roads

Also the jeep/land rover/range rover play a part.

If you are hauling something, then you would have a truck.

[FordGT90Concept]

British Tractor:
http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2010/01/09/tractor_y67cC_69.jpg

American Tractor:
http://images.owneriq.net/download/images/2/2e879569-f530-4212-a9db-1ad7989b2e07-000001.png

They don't drive on interestates but they do drive on highways (well, half on, half off). My brother-in-law's family has at least two of those.

[WhiteLotus]

point?

[Papahyooie]

point?

Americans have bigger tractors than Britains, so therefore our penises are also bigger.

Plus british chicks think americans' tractors are sexy.

[MoonPig]

The only people that drive 'Pick-up Trucks' in the UK are murders.

[FordGT90Concept]

Lemme guess, to dispose of the body? :eek:


We use our tractors to do real work. We don't drive them around town--that's what (more than) 18 wheelers are for (International 9900i Eagle):
http://www.internationaltruck.com.au/Images/Photogallery/Lowres/GRAIN-TRUCK.jpg

Our tractors are all about power and traction, not about speed.

[entropy13]

You call that tractors? LOLOLOLOLOL



http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1203/1088191296_f949ee32a4.jpg

[FordGT90Concept]

I call that food. nom nom nom :D

[Reventon]

fuck me the fail in this thread is killing me.


Builders: The Ford Transit Van, actually built to accommodate the dimensions of regularly used materials.
Farmers: The Tractor, built to pull just about anything through anything. And yes these things do drive on the high roads

Also the jeep/land rover/range rover play a part.

If you are hauling something, then you would have a truck.

I've been waiting for a straight answer like that the whole time, thank you.

lol. I can't troll with a straight face anymore.

Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands as well. I used to have all of their vinyl before they were washed away in a flood. I have all the original CD pressings as well, which sound a shitload better than the remastered pieces of shit. Another victim of the loudness wars. :mad:

But my points about Zombie getting soft, and playing on stage with famous bands meaning nothing still stands.

I hate Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold. Cookie cutter crap. Never really listened to much 5FDP. Just thought trolling them with you would be a little fun. :D

Lol you asshole I figured you'd be fucking trolling. I thought about after I got off my computer.

[entropy13]

I call that food. nom nom nom :D

Carabao meat isn't as delicious (or as easily chewable) as beef, although their milk is great (and slightly cheaper too).

[Steevo]

lol. I can't troll with a straight face anymore.

Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands as well. I used to have all of their vinyl before they were washed away in a flood. I have all the original CD pressings as well, which sound a shitload better than the remastered pieces of shit. Another victim of the loudness wars. :mad:

But my points about Zombie getting soft, and playing on stage with famous bands meaning nothing still stands.

I hate Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold. Cookie cutter crap. Never really listened to much 5FDP. Just thought trolling them with you would be a little fun. :D
I wonder how many people here have heard a band in live concert settings without a amp and stories of speakers.


Sounds a lot different than the overproduced shit that is the today sound.

[Steevo]

Lemme guess, to dispose of the body? :eek:


We use our tractors to do real work. We don't drive them around town--that's what (more than) 18 wheelers are for (International 9900i Eagle):
http://www.internationaltruck.com.au/Images/Photogallery/Lowres/GRAIN-TRUCK.jpg

Our tractors are all about power and traction, not about speed.

How about a 1010HP forage harvester, or a large combine with VRS now to transmit data about speed, yield, moisture, fuel economy, maintenance.....

[DaveK]

I've been waiting for a straight answer like that the whole time, thank you.

That was basically said at the start of the thread...

[Reventon]

That was basically said at the start of the thread...

Sort of, yes.

[FordGT90Concept]

How about a 1010HP forage harvester, or a large combine with VRS now to transmit data about speed, yield, moisture, fuel economy, maintenance.....
That John Deere harvestor is probably all of the above. XD

[@RaXxaa@]

Most people dont use trucks in uk becuz its unnessesery, unlike The us where trucks are bought to have lower insurance rates and just cuz its an american trend frm the south to have a pickup, vans work just as fine and most pick ups in the us have one guy driving a completly empty truck, no people no cargo, why just cuz..... In the uk its more emphasised on low gas emmision etc and something thats not a v8

[Reventon]

Well despite that there are still plenty of people in the US who use their truck for work and for hauling things. Otherwise they (the companies) wouldn't spend millions of dollars trying to figure out how to get their trucks to haul 2 tons more.

[Wile E]

There is one trend in the brits explanation on trucks that I find to be off. You guys keep saying that you have vans, but vans cannot haul the same things trucks can. Their very nature limits your load height.

[Reventon]

That's what I was thinking. Vans have a roof which very much limits your cargo space.

[DanTheBanjoman]

How Do Eurof*gs Survive?

We dump our defective genes on the other side of oceans.

[DrPepper]

There is one trend in the brits explanation on trucks that I find to be off. You guys keep saying that you have vans, but vans cannot haul the same things trucks can. Their very nature limits your load height.

So we use trucks to haul that stuff ?

[WhiteLotus]

So we use trucks to haul that stuff ?

indeed we do gappy, indeed we do. Vans are good at moving household items that are too big for a car, if it's bigger we get a lorry/truck that will accommodate whatever we are moving. You also forget that we are a smaller country, our roads are narrower. Try getting your truck down one of our lanes, you'd be fucked up shits creek with no paddle to speak of.

[Reventon]

No I wouldn't I'd just be a typical American asshole and take up all of the space I need for my F450, regardless whether or not I'm in my lane or both lanes.

[WhiteLotus]

No I wouldn't I'd just be a typical American asshole and take up all of the space I need for my F450, regardless whether or not I'm in my lane or both lanes.

The lanes I am on about, there is only one lane. With banks of hedges on each side.

[DrPepper]

The lanes I am on about, there is only one lane. With banks of hedges on each side.

My car is tiny and I have trouble going down streets especially when on each side of it there are rows and rows of cars parked.

[Reventon]

The lanes I am on about, there is only one lane. With banks of hedges on each side.

That's what a brush guard is for

http://www.advancedmfg.net/truck2.JPG

[WhiteLotus]

That's what a brush guard is for

http://www.advancedmfg.net/truck2.JPG

nope

i'll go take a picture of a lane for you tomorrow and post

[Wile E]

The lanes I am on about, there is only one lane. With banks of hedges on each side.

Then I just take out your hedges. Fuck 'em. Should've made the road wider.

[Reventon]

Exactly. What happens when someone doesn't have a midget car? You said people drive vans, Jeeps. They can't get down that road?

[WhiteLotus]

Exactly. What happens when someone doesn't have a midget car? You said people drive vans, Jeeps. They can't get down that road?

They lose some paint. Like so http://www.wordsaboutthings.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lorry-trapped-in-coutry-lane.jpg

Round here roads that wide are common, although not used that much because they are strictly farmer roads.

[DrPepper]

They lose some paint. Like so http://www.wordsaboutthings.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lorry-trapped-in-coutry-lane.jpg

Round here roads that wide are common, although not used that much because they are strictly farmer roads.

Yeah I was just on a road like that had to stop and pretty much almost ditch my car in a field about 5 times so cars coming towards me had space.

[Black Panther]

Maltese trucks..... :D

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[Reventon]

Lol was that a 10.8 in a quarter mile?

[Reventon]

They lose some paint. Like so http://www.wordsaboutthings.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lorry-trapped-in-coutry-lane.jpg

Round here roads that wide are common, although not used that much because they are strictly farmer roads.

Okay then give me a MRAP then I can just run the shit over.

http://defense-update.com/images/International_MRAP.jpg

Edit: Or maybe one more like this

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/03/RG33L-MRAP-MRRM.jpg

[WhiteLotus]

Okay then give me a MRAP then I can just run the shit over.

http://defense-update.com/images/International_MRAP.jpg

Edit: Or maybe one more like this

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/03/RG33L-MRAP-MRRM.jpg

I'd just rather have a tank.

[FordGT90Concept]

Tanks can't do 75 MPH. XD

[WhiteLotus]

Tanks can't do 75 MPH. XD

but they can blow any fucker going faster than 75mph up

[Reventon]

I'd rather have a MRAP lol. The MRAP is at least street legal and holds more than two people. Plus it looks badass.

[WhiteLotus]

I'd rather have a MRAP lol. The MRAP is at least street legal and holds more than two people. Plus it looks badass.

tank doesn't have to be street legal. You really think a cop is going to try and pull you over when you thunder past in one of them

[FordGT90Concept]

but they can blow any fucker going faster than 75mph up
The faster the target moves, the harder it is to hit. Miss too many times and it will be out of range. I guess you better hope that MRAP doesn't have an anti-tank missile system on it. XD


tank doesn't have to be street legal. You really think a cop is going to try and pull you over when you thunder past in one of them
Yeah:
msPrOIAVUZo

Cops = 1
Tank = 0

[WhiteLotus]

that's not cops 1 tank 0, that's central reservation 1 tank 0

[Wile E]

It's more like

Stupidity 1
Cops 0
Tank 0

[FordGT90Concept]

that's not cops 1 tank 0, that's central reservation 1 tank 0
Tank guy didn't kill anyone, cops did. XD


If there wasn't 20 squad cars behind him, he probably wouldn't have tried to cross the median. He tried to cross the median because the cop cars couldn't, thus losing them.

[Oliver_FF]

you guys realise that Google Street View extends over pretty much the entire of the UK? Take a look over some of our roads, it's a pretty small country with small poorly-maintained roads... None of our roads are straight, there are no "intersections", we have twisty roads and roundabouts. Oh, an no-one drives automatics.

look at this for a mess of roads:
http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.277166,-0.660553&spn=0.159357,0.308647&z=12

[WhiteLotus]

Take a look over some of our roads, it's a pretty small country with small poorly-maintained roads...

Our roads are pretty fucking good compared to other countries, dunno which part of the UK you live in but here they are good.

None of our roads are straight, there are no "intersections", we have twisty roads and roundabouts.

Good, driving on the straight motorways are fucking boring. Give me an A road with bends in it anyday, less chance of me being constantly reminded that my ass is numb from the driving

Oh, an no-one drives automatics.


Old people do

[1Kurgan1]

The faster the target moves, the harder it is to hit. Miss too many times and it will be out of range. I guess you better hope that MRAP doesn't have an anti-tank missile system on it. XD



Yeah:
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Cops = 1
Tank = 0

That guy most likely had 0 armor, and with a chopper on him, he isn't ever going to get away, no matter how resourceful of a driver he was, even the MRAP would eventually run out of gas. Yes you could use the mounted gun up top on the chopper, but with 0 ammo that won't do any good, and you can't drive and use it anyways, and it leaves you open to police fire. So results would be exactly the same, the guy didn't kill anyone, but he easily could have just ran over a few homes and killed a lot of people, they really couldn't stop him, they had to wait till he stopped himself.

[FordGT90Concept]

That guy most likely had 0 armor, and with a chopper on him, he isn't ever going to get away, no matter how resourceful of a driver he was, even the MRAP would eventually run out of gas. Yes you could use the mounted gun up top on the chopper, but with 0 ammo that won't do any good, and you can't drive and use it anyways, and it leaves you open to police fire. So results would be exactly the same, the guy didn't kill anyone, but he easily could have just ran over a few homes and killed a lot of people, they really couldn't stop him, they had to wait till he stopped himself.
Sure they could have: a hell-fire missile or another tank. That wasn't an M1 Abrams but an M1 Abrams costs over $6 million. That tank, on the loose, could have caused a lot more than $6 million in damages; hence, I'm positive they were in communication with the military had the decision been made to destroy it.

[DrPepper]

Sure they could have: a hell-fire missile or another tank. That wasn't an M1 Abrams but an M1 Abrams costs over $6 million. That tank, on the loose, could have caused a lot more than $6 million in damages; hence, I'm positive they were in communication with the military had the decision been made to destroy it.

I thought the US military weren't allowed to be involved in police operations.

[FordGT90Concept]

They have in the past. I remember when there was M2 Bradleys surrounding a bulding a cult locked themselves into. They ended up basically destroying the building to drive the cult out and a lot of cult members died (actually, all might have--the leader refused to let them leave).

They also got involved in a civil rights case where the military was ordered to ensure the security of black children attending a white school against the states' (Georgia, I think) wishes.

And they have got involved in rescue operations and securing territory (like New Orleans after Katrina hit).

I think the President has to issue an executive order for the national guard to get involved though.

[TechnicalFreak]

If you're a construction worker, farmer, outdoorsman and you live in Europe, what do you drive? I don't get it.

Depends on what you work with.
Myself I drive a car. It has four wheels, 4 doors, a steering wheel, seats, an engine and runs on petrol..

[1Kurgan1]

Sure they could have: a hell-fire missile or another tank. That wasn't an M1 Abrams but an M1 Abrams costs over $6 million. That tank, on the loose, could have caused a lot more than $6 million in damages; hence, I'm positive they were in communication with the military had the decision been made to destroy it.

Another tank or a Hellfire on civilian territory, that would spread across the media like a wild fire, and who knows what could happen if it went wrong. I'm sure the military was in communications with them, but the idea of flat out destroying a tank on civilian land probably wouldn't have been made unless he started running over houses. Either way, point still stands, that without ammo, or the knowledge to fire (if it had ammo), he was going to be taken down eventually, just like anything else that is that slow with a chopper following it.

Depends on what you work with.
Myself I drive a car. It has four wheels, 4 doors, a steering wheel, seats, an engine and runs on petrol..

We can all drive those, you know what he means, something that actually can haul things, like sheets of ply wood, lumber, and many other things that just won't fit in a car with 4 doors.

[FordGT90Concept]

Another tank or a Hellfire on civilian territory, that would spread across the media like a wild fire, and who knows what could happen if it went wrong. I'm sure the military was in communications with them, but the idea of flat out destroying a tank on civilian land probably wouldn't have been made unless he started running over houses. Either way, point still stands, that without ammo, or the knowledge to fire (if it had ammo), he was going to be taken down eventually, just like anything else that is that slow with a chopper following it.
And you don't think a tank on the loose driving by a mad man isn't? I'm sure if the decision were made to destroy it, it would have been carried out by a Cobra or Apache. Hellfire missiles are designed to kill everything inside the tank and leave the tank in relative good condition. They are wire-guided missiles and never miss their target.

The only reason why they could take it down is because he didn't lock the hatch. He could have barricaded himself in that tank for 3 days without fuel or ammo.

The point is the cops would have won, one way or another. It was one man versus hundreds.

[1Kurgan1]

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Thats not from an Apache, but I can't imagine theirs are any different, and that tanks from from any sort of intact, and the blast radius on that is way too big for a city street.

But like you said at the end, and what I been saying the entire time is, no matter what vehicle, or what destruction level, something that slow will eventually just get taken down.

[DrPepper]

And you don't think a tank on the loose driving by a mad man isn't? I'm sure if the decision were made to destroy it, it would have been carried out by a Cobra or Apache. Hellfire missiles are designed to kill everything inside the tank and leave the tank in relative good condition. They are wire-guided missiles and never miss their target.

The only reason why they could take it down is because he didn't lock the hatch. He could have barricaded himself in that tank for 3 days without fuel or ammo.

The point is the cops would have won, one way or another. It was one man versus hundreds.

Your thinking of kinetic penetrating rounds that kill the crew and leave a hole in the tank leaving it relatively intact albiet useless.

http://voiska.ru/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=94

[FordGT90Concept]

All weapons, less the ABL, are kinetic. HELLFIRE uses a high explosive anti-tank round to blow away the primary layer of armor then sends a metal augmented charge into the crew compartment which has the effect of a detonating a frag grenade inside a tank.

Yes, you wouldn't want to be close to it when the HEAT goes off but if you were 30+ feet away, you'd most likely survive.

Here's a hellfire attack on armor:
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Note how the shrapnel is big peices and they don't fly very far.


@1Kurgan1: that looks like a Javelin missile launcher. The Hellfire is over 100 lbs and can NOT be shoulder fired (it is an air-to-surface missile). The Javelin always attacks the top of the vehicle where armor is weakest (which it did in the video).


Javelin would get the job done though. As would a TOW missile (although less effective against modern armor than Javelin and Hellfire).

[Deusxmachina]

Thing is, in Europe, people won't buy a god damned truck if they don't need one. I know way to many people here in North America who buys one just "because".

People in North America buy trucks because Someone has to be That Friend you call when you need something hauled.

[Olithereal]

People in North America buy trucks because Someone has to be That Friend you call when you need something hauled.

Bullshit. That's just an excuse to tell those people that call you a moron for buying a truck for no freaking reason. Don't tell me that's what you're thinking when you are buying your truck, that just ain't true.

I do quite enjoy having a couple friends with pick-up when I need hauling though! hehehehe

[FordGT90Concept]

They're cheap to insure and practical. You, your wife, your kids, your dog, and all that miscellaneous junk fits with room to spare. The clean stuff goes in, the dirty stuff goes out. The only downside to owning them is their mediocre fuel economy. Considering all the postives, that's a limited downside.

[Deusxmachina]

I do quite enjoy having a couple friends with pick-up when I need hauling though! hehehehe

It was meant as a joke. Although, with your quote, I rest my case.