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jmcslob
10-14-2010, 11:06 AM
Uhm this thread isn't about Medical Marijuana
This thread is simply about POT and your love for it...Post your Pot stories...How you smoke it, eat it or whatever..
Funny Videos....etc etc..


She blows a guy that smokes pot
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Uncut scene
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Papahyooie
10-14-2010, 11:31 AM
See, this I can get behind. An honest toker. Kudos (toast)

CyberDruid
10-14-2010, 11:45 AM
I never touch the stuff (u)

:p

jmcslob
10-14-2010, 09:33 PM
So do you use a scoop to put it into a grinder then dump it into a bowl without touching it?
LuLzzz.

CyberDruid
10-14-2010, 09:52 PM
I make my friends shotgun me.

jmcslob
10-14-2010, 09:59 PM
I have to wait until the 22nd to get some pot :(
I want some right now but the only friends I have that actually have it are like 25 miles away...

CyberDruid
10-14-2010, 10:07 PM
Is that all...what a pussy(nutkick). I make a 5 hour round trip to get mine. I trust no one. My county is full of C.I.s and Narcs.

Jakl
10-14-2010, 10:09 PM
lol that sucks, but thats why I sell so I can blaze wheneva lol

CyberDruid
10-14-2010, 10:20 PM
When I was young and care free sure. These days they'll seize your property and your kids and probably make it so you can't get a decent job ever again. It's plain stupid the criminalization of a damn weed that grows anywhere.

erocker
10-14-2010, 10:26 PM
Hey! That's the special green tobacco my mom smokes! (r)

jmcslob
10-14-2010, 11:56 PM
Since it's no longer a crime in Ohio Ive been fairly open about it lately...
It's only a crime to have a device used to smoke it...LOL...well in public, not in your home..that's fine

But the substance itself is fine to have on you... You actually have to have more than a half ounce on you before they can fine you as long as your 21 or older. and have it in 1 package as multiple is intent to sell.

If they catch you with more than a half ounce up to 3.5 ounce it's a $150 fine and they let you keep it LOL

Unless your under the influence at the time..at which point the cops would probably take it and smoke it themselves...


Hot Girls smoking pot

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POT SONGS
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jmcslob
10-16-2010, 09:51 AM
I'm calling for all Potheads to support the folks out in CALI
If prop 19 passes write to your Reps to stop the Unlawful reactions to arrest those people who are not breaking the laws

ProgressiveTokyo
10-16-2010, 11:31 AM
Hell ya! Im all about it. Japan has some insane pot laws though... I have to be real careful.

de.das.dude
10-16-2010, 12:37 PM
YEAH!!! make pot legal and sell it in grocery stores!!!! YAY!
everyone smokes pot and we take over the world!!!!! muhohohoahahahahaha

Papahyooie
10-18-2010, 01:48 AM
everyone smokes pot and we take over the world!!!!! muhohohoahahahahaha

Someone has obviously never been around anyone that smokes pot.

jmcslob
10-18-2010, 03:27 AM
I think he has it confused with Coke or meth...
It's more like

YEAH!!! make pot legal and sell it in grocery stores!!!!
everyone smokes pot and we take all the cheesy Puffs in the world!!!!! muhohohoahahahahaha YAY!

mlee49
10-18-2010, 04:58 AM
Ready??

[Devils Advocate]

Marijuana is a gate way drug!

Papahyooie
10-18-2010, 05:18 AM
YEAH!!! make pot legal and sell it in grocery stores!!!!
everyone smokes pot and we wish someone would bring us all the cheesy Puffs in the world!!!!! muhohohoahahahahaha YAY!

Fixed.

SK-1
10-18-2010, 05:18 AM
The same can be said of Nicotine. Every stoner I've ever met smoked Nicotine first.

jmcslob
10-18-2010, 07:05 AM
I'll one up you..
Every Smoker Ive ever met used caffeine before they smoked before they drank alcohol before they smoked weed..
Yeah that's right..

Papahyooie
10-18-2010, 08:12 AM
And they all ate food before that.

SK-1
10-18-2010, 06:53 PM
One up all.... :p
http://img.techpowerup.org/101018/Capture837.jpg

mlee49
10-18-2010, 07:09 PM
POT SONGS
[yt]KtmgKuiMECY[/]
[yt]wF34KvW5uPo[/]
[yt]h8LXiHg-rBc[/]
[yt]8wAQ06AQFRU[/]
[yt]JpzKvhH9Bsg&feature[/]

How can you post pot songs and not mention Bob Marley?

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jmcslob
10-18-2010, 07:30 PM
my bad...
I feel so ashamed

CyberDruid
10-18-2010, 10:52 PM
Ready??

[Devils Advocate]

Marijuana is a Dell drug!
There I fixed it.

Magibeg
10-18-2010, 11:44 PM
The same can be said of Nicotine. Every stoner I've ever met smoked Nicotine first.

I'm not really a stoner but i had weed before i had nicotine. So now you know atleast one :D.


Also this would be an awesome thread for an undercover cop to troll.

Steevo
10-19-2010, 12:52 AM
I would like to talk to you all about your use, location and real names. :D


I'm for it, have still never used it, used alcohol. And to me it is fucking stupid to allow people to get drunk, violent, and into wrecks VS stoned, happy, and a little fatter.

jmcslob
10-19-2010, 03:26 AM
Hi my Name is Jason I live in Niles, Ohio on 3rd st.
I buy a quarter ounce at a time.

I normally smoke out of a Vapo..But sometimes I just wanna get high at which point I have a converted Hookah a mini bong and 3 bowls.
I never smoke joints or blunts.

Here is my house from sat view
http://img.techpowerup.org/101005/home.png
I live 1 mile exactly from a presidential library
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_McKinley_Birthplace_Memorial

Papahyooie
10-19-2010, 04:07 AM
Hi my Name is Jason I live in Niles, Ohio on 3rd st.
I buy a quarter ounce at a time.

I normally smoke out of a Vapo..But sometimes I just wanna get high at which point I have a converted Hookah a mini bong and 3 bowls.
I never smoke joints or blunts.

Here is my house from sat view
http://img.techpowerup.org/101005/home.png
I live 1 mile exactly from a presidential library
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_McKinley_Birthplace_Memorial


Someone is gonna come rape you while youre stoned and too mellow to say no... definitely not me tho...

CyberDruid
10-22-2010, 12:58 PM
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/2289/youknowman.jpg

DaMulta
10-22-2010, 08:25 PM
If I ripped a bong bowel tonight....would I be able to pass a wiz quizz on monday if one were to pop up?

I think I would.....

Lets me knows cause I wants to get fucking high so fucking bad.....

Reventon
10-22-2010, 08:48 PM
Weed, meh. If I ever were to start smoking (which most likely won't happen), it will be blunts. Bongs are oversized penises.

DaMulta
10-22-2010, 09:04 PM
I'm white...I do bongs, and zig-zags...

jmcslob
10-23-2010, 03:09 AM
Well I do kind of like the Grape flavored Blunts...
They give you really nice cottonmouth LuLzzz.

The Chocolate ones ain't bad either
But I still prefer the Bowl or the Bong...

@Rev
I actually know a girl that has a penis bong...the bowl piece fits into the nut sack...
Funny as hell to watch her hit it...

CyberDruid
10-23-2010, 05:05 AM
Here's the deal my pothead brothers. In 2009 a research scientist developed some Cannabinoid Agonists. JWH-180 and JWH-250. Now these are what you will find in the little 1 gram vials or pouches of "incense" sold every fucking where. JWH-180 is currently banned in about 8 states. But they have not caught on to the 250 yet and it rocks the mother fucking Casbah.

I wouldn't steer you guys wrong. If you want to get high and pass your piss test this stuff is the way to go. It's not only as good as the best weed out there...it's probably better.

The stuff that will prove this to you in one toke is called "Sonic Boom" and it's made www.zencence.us.

I got so ripped about 6 hours ago I felt like a little kid. Beats risking a bust, travelling hours and hours to cop a bag.etc etc etc etc.


http://www.jwh-info.com/2010/09/05/college-crowd-smokes-spice-that-imitates-pot/

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8313/sonic20boom20cherry205g.jpg

DaMulta
10-23-2010, 05:16 AM
link is dead:/

CyberDruid
10-23-2010, 05:21 AM
I editted it. I mispelled it. I just sent them an email. All the online shops list it but show it out of stock. My local shop has it though. It's $20 after tax for a 1G vial. I want to see about ordering in quantity before the laws change.

This is the url http://zencense.us/

DaMulta
10-23-2010, 05:28 AM
does it taste like ass? if u find a place to order it let us know"

brandonwh64
10-23-2010, 05:41 AM
I editted it. I mispelled it. I just sent them an email. All the online shops list it but show it out of stock. My local shop has it though. It's $20 after tax for a 1G vial. I want to see about ordering in quantity before the laws change.

This is the url http://zencense.us/

Cyber, if you find some to order online, LET US KNOW! ill order some of that shit

CyberDruid
10-23-2010, 01:50 PM
does it taste like ass? if u find a place to order it let us know"

Cyber, if you find some to order online, LET US KNOW! ill order some of that shit

In a pipe the first blast is harsh. I think that's the active ingredient vaping off the plant material. The flavor of the Cherry is not bad. There is that plant material smell to the exhale...instead of the resinous smell you get off pot. But that also means less tar in your lungs...the taste is okay. I am not big on Cherry flavor stuff...but this tastes like the fruit, not Cherry Soda or something..it's mild. It works best in a pipe. I tried mixing it with tobacco and it's not quite like mixing weed with tobacco. I actually enjoy that resinous taste of good Pot...these herbs are dry and don't have that same hashy taste. But the effect is undeniable. Either way it'll get you so high you might forget to wipe your ass. And it's the $100 a bag weed high...not like the K2 which was an anxious, hyper kind of "am I high the way I expected to be high?" high. Hi:)

The high off the Sonic is smiley, laughing, pain-killing, cerebral. Not psychedelic, not sleepy, but uplifting. the kind of buzz that makes you want to get up and boogey. It's very strong and lasts a long time.

de.das.dude
10-23-2010, 02:07 PM
you guys are serious drug addicts.

DaMulta
10-23-2010, 03:52 PM
Fuck off De it's a fine wine!

I fired up a fresh bong today! God I'm ripped, and there is a car show going on down the street(half a block away) with a jamming band.

Nice day, and I figured if it was just that one I would be good on Monday. As the internet told me so if you don't smoke.

CyberDruid
10-23-2010, 05:00 PM
Good luck with the pee pee quiz.

de.das.dude
10-23-2010, 05:04 PM
Fuck off De it's a fine wine!

I fired up a fresh bong today! God I'm ripped, and there is a car show going on down the street(half a block away) with a jamming band.

Nice day, and I figured if it was just that one I would be good on Monday. As the internet told me so if you don't smoke.


killin brain cells is fine eh?
oh wait.... (slap) you guys dont have any LOL (nutkick)

DaMulta
10-23-2010, 05:36 PM
Good luck with the pee pee quiz.
I don't think I will....I've already been working without one....

Just in case(toast)

Felt good to loosen up for a bit. Too bad it could only be that little bit, but O well I say!


Do you accept paypal Cyber for a trip down to your store lol with firstclass mail(wh)

DannibusX
10-23-2010, 06:16 PM
At work last week a DEA agent that I know pretty good came into my office for a training class, I asked him what he thought of Prop 19 in Cali and if the DEA was going to be ramping up for it.

His answer:

"It should be legalized nationally and taxed."

I love that guy's honesty.

DaMulta
10-23-2010, 09:17 PM
I just sent off to see how I could get a sample of the Blue-Berry Sonic on the nets.....
It has to be on the nets somewhere.....

DaMulta
10-23-2010, 09:26 PM
I'm wondering if these people sell their products, and so I sent off a Email asking just that....

http://www.zencense.net/blueberry.php

OK, this places says they are a different company. I'm going to ask if they are using 250, but they told me they would double any order I made for bringing attention to the other company with the same name. They said they may need to change the name of their company over it.

DaMulta
10-23-2010, 09:48 PM
OK Cyber

What's the difference in Sonic Boom, and just Sonic? Is Sonic any good? They have Sonic Boom for sale in Cherry, but Blue-Berry Sonic Boom is sold out...Only Sonic left in that flavor.

Edit-Google Check out seems too of kicked them from the system to pay...I sent a email asking if they offer paypal backdoor so to say.

CyberDruid
10-24-2010, 03:24 AM
Sonic Boom is what you want. I have not found it online yet. Is it time to put DDD on the ignore list yet? Seems likely.

jmcslob
10-24-2010, 08:57 AM
Shit..I'll try it if D says it's ok...

DaMulta
10-24-2010, 12:27 PM
http://www.zencense.net/blueberry.php

OK, this places says they are a different company. I'm going to ask if they are using 250, but they told me they would double any order I made for bringing attention to the other company with the same name. They said they may need to change the name of their company over it.

CyberDruid
10-24-2010, 02:37 PM
The same thing happened with K2. These products make such HUGE money that everyone starts copying the original. The site you link above is not what I was using. So I have no idea what it is.

You can also just buy the chemical direct and make your own smoking blend.

DaMulta
10-24-2010, 03:14 PM
Know a place to just order 250? heck I would just add it into e-liquid, and vape it lol

CyberDruid
10-24-2010, 03:33 PM
I do but I will discuss that via PM mkay?

Not sure about what solvent the chemical likes. Need more research.

And I am cannot say for sure that the 250 is in the Sonic Boom...just guessing. Let me borrow your gas chromatographic spectrometer for a weekend and I'll get back to you :D

Main thing is I do not want to recommend anything except what I have personally tried. I'm funny like that.

DaMulta
10-24-2010, 03:40 PM
I know a website that is selling a 3ml bottle of it mixed in VG/PG so I know that you can vape it:P

http://www.dfwvapor.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=126&zenid=krbvnnta1bvt72ntjnbdqnt170

Reventon
10-24-2010, 10:19 PM
Give me a liter of that right now I'll smoke it

DaMulta
10-25-2010, 04:24 PM
Damn I over paid yesterday LOL O well....


39.95 for 5g Sonic Boom
http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/sonic-boom-blueberry-spice-1g-p-8134.html


I called; they have it in stock, and they just charge it after you ordered. I think it's a wholesale company. They asked if I had a business ID I said no, but they said it didn't matter go ahead order it if I wanted it.

CyberDruid
10-26-2010, 02:48 AM
I searched the site and I see nothing like that in stock. Did you call or email them or something? For that price I would buy from them too.

DaMulta
10-26-2010, 02:54 AM
Yes, I called them up on the phone this morning. They knew right away what I was asking about. It was 70 for 10g of it plus 13 to ship.

I've been over there site, and they have some killer deals on so many things. In the facts it says something about charging you 2.50 for not having a tax id number....big deal.

Also they will ship to any state....it's up to you to know your laws :P

CyberDruid
10-26-2010, 02:57 AM
I'm going for it. The shop here in town charges $85 for a 5g vial. I could become his supplier...unless he gets an even better price.

One problem: no money :(

I do have a business. Mountain Storm LLC. Hell if I can even remember my Tax ID. I'll have to look at the paperwork.

DaMulta
10-26-2010, 03:41 AM
I SO WANT one of these

http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/images/Freezable%20Coil%20BEaker%20GOG%20WP%204.JPG

http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/images/Freezable%20Coil%20BEaker%20GOG%20WP.JPG

http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/images/Freezable%20Coil%20BEaker%20GOG%20WP%209.JPG

I'm in shock this is only 65 bones!
http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/13-freezable-coil-solid-beaker-water-pipe-p-8772.html?osCsid=581208b89850f31b54035fca61aaeadc

Or this water pipe with a removable freeze core for 85 bones!
http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/18-4-arm-bazooka-water-pipe-with-freezable-coil-p-8771.html?osCsid=581208b89850f31b54035fca61aaeadc
http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/images/Freezable%20Coil%204%20Arm%20Bazooka%20Water%20Pip e%209.JPG

Then if you start to look at their vaporizer prices, and if you don't smile you shouldn't be in this thread.....

CyberDruid
10-26-2010, 12:39 PM
I'm not so interested in paraphernalia these days. Bongs always knock over and make a mess, glass always breaks, pipes always need to be cleaned. I prefer to roll.

DaMulta
10-26-2010, 01:22 PM
I like to roll, but I'm a bong man at hart. I always dump the water when I'm down, and this solves the issues of the mess big time.


Glass may break giving time, but O well......

I hate pipes, because they always seem to end up with a nasty taste if you don't keep them clean.

CyberDruid
10-26-2010, 02:30 PM
The problem with Rural VA is everything is so slow. You want something you are going to wait for it and wait for it and wait for it. Which is why I'd like to be a little higher on the food chain and be distributing instead of purchasing. I'm looking into it. These non-cannabis products are obviously making HUGE money for the distributers. They mark it up and then the shops mark it up so it's about tripled in price at retail. No surprises there.

There is money to be made my Pot head brothers...money to be made.

DaMulta
10-26-2010, 04:50 PM
41uaF4x8bNI

http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/iolite-portable-vaporizer-p-6595.html?osCsid=7293cbcb3d643f5c38df5c0ad7ed2259

CyberDruid
10-26-2010, 05:29 PM
That's exactly what I thought a vaporizer should be. Brilliant.

Reventon
10-26-2010, 05:44 PM
You can tell that guy lives in his mom's basement.

CyberDruid
10-26-2010, 08:23 PM
He almost looks like that 4chan meme of the Dad at the PC whose son always walks in and says stuff.

Got my Boom on. Life is good.

casual swift
10-26-2010, 09:58 PM
lol that sucks, but thats why I sell so I can blaze wheneva lol

Maybe it's just me but that's not something I would be tossing around casually...

DaMulta
10-27-2010, 08:46 PM
My 10g of Sonic Boom Blueberry shipped. Took 2 days to get out the door, but o well. I'll post a video of the spice on youtube when it gets here.

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Jakl
10-27-2010, 09:25 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/101027/35330_441328281941_711586941_5744225_5914194_n.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/101027/35330_441328291941_711586941_5744227_7059460_n.jpg

Check out our biggest bongs. We just bought a new one, a inch smaller than the small bong I have displayed above, along with 5 other's . I would need to do a group pic

Reventon
10-27-2010, 09:54 PM
Holy shit how big is that Zong?

Jakl
10-27-2010, 10:04 PM
I should measure it, but its like 4.5' - 5' , for some people , its hard to reach to light the bowl, so its a 2man job .
None of us can hit the zong in 1 hit, its way too big, but you get 2-5 Hits depending how good you are, and gets you rippped lol

DaMulta
10-27-2010, 10:48 PM
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Reventon
10-27-2010, 11:25 PM
I should measure it, but its like 4.5' - 5' , for some people , its hard to reach to light the bowl, so its a 2man job .
None of us can hit the zong in 1 hit, its way too big, but you get 2-5 Hits depending how good you are, and gets you rippped lol

Couldn't relate because I don't smoke weed but the first time someone described a Zong to me it sounded really gay but that seems pretty sick.

SK-1
10-28-2010, 10:30 PM
Holy Shit. I knew it was high (no pun intended) but 46%?

That means 46%of Cops, Lawyers, Judges ect. all work against their own ethics. Just Crazy.
http://img.techpowerup.org/101028/Capture876.jpg
http://www.gallup.com/poll/144086/New-High-Americans-Support-Legalizing-Marijuana.aspx
Look at the 70's! lol.

SK-1
10-29-2010, 12:28 AM
Look at the vids:)
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/They-Think-Were-Smoking-Weed-105909923.html?dr

DaMulta
10-29-2010, 07:04 PM
jwh-018 is in Sonic Boom. Just called them up about it, but they are going to have a new blend coming up that will not hit the banned states....Mine becomes banned come the 1st of November.....

Good thing I got my order ins......

SK-1
10-29-2010, 09:12 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/101029/Capture881.jpg
Not to be a Debbie Downer... But Cannabis has been around since Biblical (and before) times. It's proven (pretty much) to be "the most benign substance on earth" http://stash.norml.org/er-doctor-cannabis-may-be-the-most-benign-substance-on-earth

This "Faux Pot" could be bad for us. No testing, no real statistics ext.

I know the urge to alter conciseness is real, but my god, let's be a little careful guys... (toast)

CyberDruid
10-29-2010, 09:31 PM
I'm worried about that too. Considering I can huff down a gram per day without batting an eye...the long term effects of sucking up some untested chemical does make me a little sketched out by the whole thing.

Unfortunately weed is not easy to come by, and this is. Not sure what to think about it.

Sucks that it has the 180 in it. That's the stuff with the Naphtha ring chemical formulation. I was kind of hoping it was something else.

DaMulta
10-29-2010, 09:46 PM
It is tested...The chemical was made for Government testing for pot. More or less a way around the system for Dr. to be able to test the side effects of pot without having pot.
It's what makes it stronger than normal pot, because the best of the best pot only is 24%Thc.
Your smoking it on herbs that have been smoked for hundreds of years....

CyberDruid
10-29-2010, 10:12 PM
I'm not too worried about the herbs because about 20 years ago I had a selection of over two dozen smokable herbs that I used to concoct mixtures which I tested on myself over the course of a year. In the end I determined that no combination of these herbs would make me high :D But they did have some subtle effects.

I think the makers of Sonic Boom have gone to great lengths to concoct tasty and possibly even healthful blends of smoking material they lace with JHW-018, The Toxicology (such as it is) is here (http://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/21/jwh-018-toxicology).

It's really too bad the science on this is kept back by draconian laws.

SK-1
10-29-2010, 11:31 PM
because the best of the best pot only is 24%Thc.


Pipe dream. It would have to have 24% of its actual mass to be 24% thc.
Can you imagine the frosties?:eek:

I'll post some real numbers for ya. Not GC (gas chromatography) which is like trying to weigh a burning piece of paper:mad: but the much more accurate/reliable, liquid suspension analysis.(toast)

DaMulta
10-30-2010, 12:07 AM
Most Potent Marijuana
Answer

While most potent marijuana can be measured in a lab it is much more of a subjective factor that often decides what strain is more 'potent' for an individual. It becomes a personal assessment rather than just a clinical number that would decide that.

Potent marijuana strands include Indicas and Sativas. Sativas potent weed strains give a cerebral high.
Sativas Powerful Marijuana Include:

* Durban Poison
* Northern bright

Indica Potent Weed:

* Afgan
* Northern Lights
* White Widow (White Widow is a personal recommendation. Potent, strong and pleasant high I've personally ever had.)
* White Rhino
* Hash Plant
* Warlock

Grown properly these are some of the strongest strains. But remember, if you want the most potent strongest marijuana, you'd rather grow Indicas, which are known to have a higher resin production with a higher concentration of THC and CBDs. Indicas are also best for making hashish. Hash Plant is one of my favorites.

But it's a matter of taste. THC levels of White Widow can be around 20% if grown properly. G13 is said to be 25% THC, so if you're willing to invest, Mr. Nice G13 x Hash Plant of Sensi Seeds is a good choice.

http://www.canaseed.com/faq.aspx?q=28

CyberDruid
10-30-2010, 01:08 AM
A great place to get the scoop on these research chemicals is here (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95656).

jmcslob
10-30-2010, 01:20 AM
Blue crystalized Northern lights is thee Best shit EVER!
1....ONE!!! Big hit Will keep you buzzed for 5 hours..
2....TWO Big hits will get you stoned for 4 hours and keep you buzzed for 7 (total)
One whole Bowl Has you on the couch giggling
One Whole Bong bowl will Give a real dumbass look on your face for the rest of the night

ONE Vapo round with it and you literally cannot feel your body...But your not high You just don't feel anything at all...

Note:
While using Vapo with it erections happen often...as you get so relaxed you go stiff LuLzzz.
Yet due to being numbed sex becomes long and drawn out...Good for the female but to much work the guy...So make sure she smokes enough to pass out or you'll wake up with a sore back

SK-1
10-30-2010, 04:34 AM
Most Potent Marijuana
Answer

While most potent marijuana can be measured in a lab it is much more of a subjective factor that often decides what strain is more 'potent' for an individual. It becomes a personal assessment rather than just a clinical number that would decide that.

Potent marijuana strands include Indicas and Sativas. Sativas potent weed strains give a cerebral high.
Sativas Powerful Marijuana Include:

* Durban Poison
* Northern bright

Indica Potent Weed:

* Afgan
* Northern Lights
* White Widow (White Widow is a personal recommendation. Potent, strong and pleasant high I've personally ever had.)
* White Rhino
* Hash Plant
* Warlock

Grown properly these are some of the strongest strains. But remember, if you want the most potent strongest marijuana, you'd rather grow Indicas, which are known to have a higher resin production with a higher concentration of THC and CBDs. Indicas are also best for making hashish. Hash Plant is one of my favorites.

But it's a matter of taste. THC levels of White Widow can be around 20% if grown properly. G13 is said to be 25% THC, so if you're willing to invest, Mr. Nice G13 x Hash Plant of Sensi Seeds is a good choice.

http://www.canaseed.com/faq.aspx?q=28

I apologize for the bad photos.
From the First Annual HT Medical Cannabis Cup.
These winners are well under 25%. Look at the Ice Hash though:eek: Isn't it interesting that CBD and CBN are getting attn. now?
http://img.techpowerup.org/101030/Capture886.jpg
Look at 3rd place...Almost 60%!
http://img.techpowerup.org/101030/Capture888.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/101030/Capture883.jpg
Looks like 25-26 is maxed out.
http://img.techpowerup.org/101030/Capture891.jpg
See? 25% of what? You can't tell me you can get 1.75 grams of pure hash from a quarter. No way on earth.
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DaMulta
10-30-2010, 06:45 PM
OMFG I'm GIGGLE high!!!!

Cyber your the fucking man....this shit is just like 100 dollar a dub/qt weed!

SONIC BOOM!!!! I didn’t even finish my bong.....maybe 3 good pulls....I'm out!

Taste....>Ah it's different...not the same in anyway.
After taste...Nice blueberry
Good throat hit could feel it didn't make me cough.

Rating...I'm fucking stoned! Like REALLY STONED! OMG.....damn it...Ok I'm stopping tryping this post now cause ah:P

DaMulta
10-30-2010, 06:49 PM
Man it's been a long time....Got the mother fucking munches!


1hiter hiter shit for sure!

DaMulta
10-30-2010, 07:15 PM
So it's been 30min??? My super high has ended, but I have a good cool buzz going on. high is the word now, but really high not a down high. If that makes any sense.

SK-1
10-30-2010, 07:54 PM
A great place to get the scoop on these research chemicals is here (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95656).

omg a wealth of info.(toast)

DaMulta
10-30-2010, 11:55 PM
OK, I don't know if these is the stuff for me...It's too strong, and it's like a acid trip in so many ways while being high.....It only took too hits also.

Edit:

So when this super acid trip ends.......20mins later. This is where I like to be, and that would be just a good happy high. This is where it would be for me.

Yet, it only took 2 hits on the BG to get to that acid state of mind.....Mix it with tobacco/??

S\...

jmcslob
10-31-2010, 12:23 AM
LOL D
is it the same high?
I'm still skeptical
and where can I get the cheapest small amount of it?

DaMulta
10-31-2010, 12:36 AM
Too me

First is Stoned out your ass/ dripping on acid at the same time
Then it's a super high weed feeling good not so much tripping
Then it's weed high that starts to mellow out. This is how or less it tampers off to nothing.

It's just the first is so intense........

jmcslob
10-31-2010, 01:30 AM
Total Time?

SK-1
10-31-2010, 05:39 AM
Total Time?

He's dead Jim.



























jk hope not.:D

DaMulta
10-31-2010, 05:54 AM
Total Time?

hour to hour maybe a h+1/2

CyberDruid
10-31-2010, 06:15 AM
D the stone only hits you like that the first time. After that your receptors are tuned down and then it's not nearly as OMGWTFBBQ. And (sadly) semi chronic use (like every few hours) takes it down to a normal weed like high.

So don't run away scared yet :D

DaMulta
10-31-2010, 06:22 AM
I smoked it twice yesturday(early afternoon/early evening), and both times were OMFGWTFBBQ at first lol.

It CREEPS up on you too! I took two hits off the bong last time(with a jet lighter). I didn't move for about 20 mins lol......

First time I took 3 good hits and was also OMFGWTFBBQ!

Now maybe if I kept smoking past that? IDK.....

CyberDruid
10-31-2010, 01:14 PM
Or you could send me the rest...you know...strictly for testing purposes.

DaMulta
10-31-2010, 04:39 PM
As long as I don't take more than a hit an hour I stay freeze high no acid tripping high.

SK-1
11-02-2010, 06:13 AM
Missed it by that much. A minute early.
http://img.techpowerup.org/101102/Capture899.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/101102/Capture898.jpg
I just had to throw this in. Looks like it has potential.http://img.techpowerup.org/101102/Capture897.jpg

casual swift
11-03-2010, 05:44 AM
I love smoking up and then fiddling with all the computer and gaming stuff in my room. Makes me happy. :)

CyberDruid
11-03-2010, 10:59 AM
Agent 99 is HAWT.

I'm liking these synthetic Cans almost as much as pot. Less grog more flog. Only downside is my receptors get tuned down way faster.

DaMulta
11-03-2010, 02:18 PM
Fucking stoners didn't go vote in Prop 19. I think it was, because they decriminalized it a few days before.

Passed my wiz test yesterday, and I was tripping high on some sonic boom that day lol.....

God that shit fucks you up.....BAD

CyberDruid
11-03-2010, 04:36 PM
I can't feel a thing...no wait....I can't feel a thing!:eek:

DaMulta
11-03-2010, 07:56 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/101103/sbbb.jpg

Reventon
11-03-2010, 08:01 PM
Lmao really how good is that Sonic Boom?

DaMulta
11-03-2010, 08:30 PM
jmcslob you needs some of this......

Reventon
11-03-2010, 09:04 PM
What the hell is it anyway. Like what kind of plant.

CyberDruid
11-03-2010, 09:41 PM
It's not the plant it's what is on the plant. You could put the active ingredient on parsley and get ripped. It's a Cannabinoid Agonist. Trace amounts of it act like large amounts of Delta TetrahydraCannabinol 9 on the CB1 receptor in the brain. It's a molecule with a high Ki affinity for that receptor.

SK-1
11-03-2010, 09:49 PM
Agent 99 is HAWT.

Only downside is my receptors get tuned down way faster.

So the tolerance factor sux?


And EDIT:
Marijuana legalization measure loses in California
http://img.techpowerup.org/101103/Capture909.jpg
LOS ANGELES – California voters declined to make their trendsetting state the nation's first to legalize marijuana use and sales, heeding warnings of legal chaos and that pot smokers would get behind the wheel and show up to work while high.

The legalization effort was losing by nine percentage points with more than two-thirds of precincts reporting. Backers showed support for the measure by gathering outside the campaign's headquarters to watch returns come in — some of them lighting up joints to mark the occasion.

Supporters of Proposition 19 blamed Tuesday's outcome on the conservative leanings of older voters who participate in midterm elections. They also acknowledged that young voters had not turned out in sufficient numbers to secure victory, but said they were ready to try again in two years.

"It's still a historic moment in this very long struggle to end decades of failed marijuana prohibition," said Stephen Gutwillig, California director for the Drug Policy Project. "Unquestionably, because of Proposition 19, marijuana legalization initiatives will be on the ballot in a number of states in 2012, and California is in the mix."

[Related: 5 intriguing Senate wins, losses for Tea Party]

Tim Rosales, who managed the No on 19 campaign, scoffed at that attitude from the losing side.

"If they think they are going to be back in two years, they must be smoking something," he said. "This is a state that just bucked the national trend and went pretty hard on the Democratic side, but yet in the same vote opposed Prop 19. I think that says volumes as far as where California voters are on this issue."

The campaign pitted the state's political and law enforcement establishment against determined activists. Images of marijuana leaves and smashed-up cars and school buses appeared in dueling ads during the campaign.

In a sign of what a tough sell it was, an exit poll conducted for The Associated Press showed opposition cutting across gender and racial lines, as well as income and education levels.

The ballot measure lost in the state's vaunted marijuana-growing region known as the "Emerald Triangle" of Humboldt, Mendocino and Trinity counties. Many in the region feared the system they have created would be taken over by corporations or lose its purpose.

Proponents pitched it as a sensible, though unprecedented, experiment that would provide tax revenue for the cash-strapped state, dent the drug-related violence in Mexico by causing pot prices to plummet, and reduce marijuana arrests that they say disproportionately target minority youth.

In the weeks leading to the election, federal officials said they planned to continue enforcing laws making marijuana possession and sales illegal and were considering suing to overturn the California initiative if voters approved it.

"Today, Californians recognized that legalizing marijuana will not make our citizens healthier, solve California's budget crisis, or reduce drug related violence in Mexico," White House Drug Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske said.

Voters in three other states cast ballots on medical marijuana-related measures.

In South Dakota, voters rejected for the second time a measure to legalize marijuana for medical use — a step taken by California in 1996 and 13 other states since. Oregon voters refused to expand their state's medical marijuana program to create a network of state-licensed nonprofit dispensaries where patients could have purchased the drug.

A medical marijuana measure on Arizona's ballot was too close to call early Wednesday.

California's marijuana proposal would have allowed adults 21 and over to possess up to an ounce of pot, consume it in nonpublic places as long as no children were present, and grow it in small private plots.

It also would have authorized local governments to permit commercial pot cultivation, as well as the sale and use of marijuana at licensed establishments.

I'm glad it lost.:eek:

CyberDruid
11-03-2010, 09:59 PM
Exactly. You got ripped like it was the first time you ever smoked than you get ripped then you get high then you smoke more and get the same high then you smoke a lot more and get the same high. However about a 3 day clean out seems to restore the receptors to their normal state.

What I think is happening is that it's pounding just one area of you CB receptors. MJ pounds a variety of areas because MJ is never pure THC...it's CDN and a host of other partially metabolized agonists that tickle your receptors and seem to keep them from down tuning.

The way around this is to use more than one RC (research chemical).

With JWH 018 so well known it's getting banned new chemical compounds are being used like the ones in this Research Paper (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2262798/) written by the chemist who synthesized them.

Once dosage and synergistic effects are better understood a proper "cocktail" of RCs would probably mimic MJ in the way it effects the CB receptors and ameliorate the the tachyplacatic effect.

DaMulta
11-03-2010, 10:27 PM
Not me, I take one hit, and I'm acid/weed high every time. Just one hit does it....

Maybe cause I'm doing it in a bong/jet lighter. I just don't trip as hard as the day goes on, but big deal....I don't like being that high.

It does go away after an hour or so kinda....cause at times I feel stoned 2 hours later.

erocker
11-04-2010, 04:56 PM
http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/tom-tucker-picture.jpg
...and over to Ollie with sports.

ANRLdrhVFvI

CyberDruid
11-04-2010, 06:17 PM
Tell you what MAD respect to the crafters of Sonic Boom when it comes to getting the substrate of herbs right. OMG I've been taste-testing some Damiana and some Mullein and it's like smoking leaves right out of a burning leaf pile. That same astringent woody smoke you expect from burning a Maple leaf or something (is that legal in Canada?).

So I took some Vodka and honey and vanilla to see if that would make it taste better...still drying so no idea.

I guess there are many many grades of botanicals, ranging from trash/tea-grade to hand picked edible or smoking grade. I dunno. I'm gonna find out though. Because so far it tastes pretty harsh. And it looks like Shwag.

DaMulta
11-05-2010, 12:13 AM
http://www.counton2extras.com/images/uploads/SONIC_BOOM_JET.jpg

jmcslob
11-05-2010, 08:06 PM
I'm trying out Kalifornia Kush....
taking a hit now
Edit:
2 minutes after first hit I'm HIGH
LOL I'M HIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! woooooooooooooo

EDIT:
OMG!!!!!!
you know how like if you push against a dorr frame for like a minute how your arms wanna float.....Well my whole body is doing that WOW $20 an 1/8 OK!!!

DaMulta
11-05-2010, 08:11 PM
What did you think of the taste.....

jmcslob
11-05-2010, 08:14 PM
WOW it's hard to sit down...It's like being High with a bit of energy

TASTE:
Just like it smells..
Sort of a Basil/Catnip/bud



But it's a little Harsh...Buit not hard to deal with at all

My cotton mouth taste like Pesto sauce tho

DaMulta
11-05-2010, 08:17 PM
Just one hit? LOL

jmcslob
11-05-2010, 08:41 PM
Yeah
Well 2
The first didn't really stay in :eek:Cough :eek:
The second hit was expected so it was taken slower...:D

1.5 grams of this stuff spreads like an 1/8 of some sticky bud and hits just as good
Gonna try the bong later This stuff seems like it would be better with a little h2o vapor with it..
Told the wife I'd wait for her but she wont be back for like an hour 2 and I'm to impatient so I got out the bowl...
I'm still High though but more of a relaxed high now...

I'd like to take another hit but I should really wait for my wife...

I think I found a new habit...

DaMulta
11-05-2010, 08:49 PM
I tried it in a pipe last night before bed, not the same as the old bong in anyway......You should take one lol you would be down before she got home so to say lol......

jmcslob
11-05-2010, 09:15 PM
Ok took 1 bong hit...
nice

EDIT:
gonna go play Guitar Hero...

CyberDruid
11-05-2010, 11:14 PM
Welcome to the RC Appreciation Society :)

This afternoon I crafted some spice and it's just right. Not too harsh, not overpowering. But it creeps up on ya. I enjoy smoking so I wanted to have something about like good buds...

I used a mix of Marhsmallow Leaf and Damiana flavored with Peppermint oil. Next up I'm going to infuse some of those "Legal Buds" sold by International Oddites.

It's great being baked legally.

DaMulta
11-06-2010, 04:33 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/101106/1289017894806.jpg

jmcslob
11-06-2010, 04:47 AM
I'll take a $20 of any of that LOL
I can almost smell it mmmmm


EDIT:
Oh yeah That KAlifornia Kush is for the bong...Ive never seen bong water go that dirty that quick...So I definitely don't want that in my lungs

CyberDruid
11-07-2010, 11:54 AM
From my research almost all the "spice" sold is made in China. Now we all know how hard China tries when it comes to making safe nontoxic products. :rolleyes:

You should really check out the Sonic Boom if you can find it. Made in Cali by humans. Humans that seem to take pride in their product.

Me? I'm making my own using materials I've smoked and tested.

I'm seeing almost no tar. Hardly any after-toke coughing. I think the choice of herbs and flavors in the substrate is going tomake all the difference in long term health effects.

I'm choosing herbs that are actually beneficial to my system and non toxic flavors.

The actual active ingredient seems better for me too. Pot makes me tired after a while. And bleery-eyed. And if I overdo it the next day I feel a bit hung over and find myself waking up to a phlegm in my lungs.

Not the case with the Spice mix. If it's the right strength you don't get "wasted" you get a useful buzz. Ya know how some pot makes you veg and some pot makes you get up and clean the house?

Magibeg
11-07-2010, 01:16 PM
I'm seeing almost no tar. Hardly any after-toke coughing. I think the choice of herbs and flavors in the substrate is going tomake all the difference in long term health effects.


Generally speaking as far as health goes, the most damaging part about pot is probably the inhalation of superheated gases which will cause cancer.

It really doesn't matter what you're smoking from that aspect.

edit: also those prices seem really expensive... maybe i'm spoiled in Canada though lol

CyberDruid
11-07-2010, 01:47 PM
Oh that's definitely higher than I would want to pay. Looks yummy though.

Something like 400 different gases in combusted marijuana. Many of them have been found carcinogenic. Vaping the material eliminates that risk. But it also eliminates that taste and aroma and it's a different high altogether. Vapiing equipment has gotten much better (as posted by DaMulta earlier) but it's still 5 times what someone would pay for a simple waterpipe ($20).

I think suspending the active ingredient in PEG and vaping it using an e-cig apparatus is the way to go. However there is no documented research about how long something like JWH-018 remains stable in vitro. It oxidizes rapidly. It can be dissolved in EToH or Acetone or DMSO. I am not wanting to vape any of those solvents. So the next link in the puzzle is the process of going from EToH (Everclear) to PEG (Polyethylene Glycol).

It might be as simple as dumping the EToH right into some PEG and Bob's Your Uncle. I have no idea.

DaMulta
11-07-2010, 01:51 PM
You can add everclear to peg no problem. You can cut e-liquid with it along with distilled water, vg, pg.

I would only add about 5% to 10% ever-clear tops to a batch of e-liquid only cause of taste issues.

DaMulta
11-11-2010, 04:59 AM
Just got home from work, and I think it's about SONIC BOOM TIME!

jmcslob
11-12-2010, 02:41 PM
Just picked up some Royale
New and Improved K3
in a blue bag

with Damiana

Here is what is known about Damiana
Euphoria
# Damiana reportedly induces an euphoric dream-like state that enhances sexual performance and desire. Since the time of the Mayan civilization, liquor has been made from the leaves of the damiana herb. This liquor is considered an aphrodisiac.
Main Ingredient
# The main ingredient in damiana is terpenes (see link in Resources). A terpene is a hydrocarbon, oxygen-containing compound, such as alcohol. Terpenes are found in the oils that give a plant its fragrance.
Action
# The damiana herb acts as a diuretic and laxative as well as, reportedly having anti-anxiety and anti-depressant components.
Can Be Drunk or Smoked
# The damiana herb can be consumed in the form of an herbal tea or it can be smoked (see link in Resources). It has been reported that damiana has the ability to put the user in a relaxed state of mind and produces a bit of a high, comparable to the effects of smoking marijuana.


and it comes with a Website Address (http://www.k3incense.com/) on the back of the bag
However I did notice the high prices online as I got a 3 gram bag for $15 at the local Quickie Mart




EDIT:
WOW I'm like super relaxed...
This is more to my liking...Way more mellow
Not coughing harshly
Blueberry cottonmouth
Goes well with Root Beer
Real cottonmouth instead of that Pill type medicine Cottonmouth like that Kalifornia Kush gave me
Bong Necessary
Pleasant Aroma...If I came across this plant in Nature I'd probably eat it......It smells awesome Like the blue Hubba Bubba prior to 1985
If my wife was here right now I'd be hittin that shit like a Caveman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4SGtaHAAYE)

That wasn't me...

I'm fairly well high

CyberDruid
11-13-2010, 12:10 PM
Just picked up some Royale
New and Improved K3
in a blue bag

with Damiana

Here is what is known about Damiana
Euphoria
# Damiana reportedly induces an euphoric dream-like state that enhances sexual performance and desire. Since the time of the Mayan civilization, liquor has been made from the leaves of the damiana herb. This liquor is considered an aphrodisiac.
Main Ingredient
# The main ingredient in damiana is terpenes (see link in Resources). A terpene is a hydrocarbon, oxygen-containing compound, such as alcohol. Terpenes are found in the oils that give a plant its fragrance.
Action
# The damiana herb acts as a diuretic and laxative as well as, reportedly having anti-anxiety and anti-depressant components.
Can Be Drunk or Smoked
# The damiana herb can be consumed in the form of an herbal tea or it can be smoked (see link in Resources). It has been reported that damiana has the ability to put the user in a relaxed state of mind and produces a bit of a high, comparable to the effects of smoking marijuana.


and it comes with a Website Address (http://www.k3incense.com/) on the back of the bag
However I did notice the high prices online as I got a 3 gram bag for $15 at the local Quickie Mart




EDIT:
WOW I'm like super relaxed...
This is more to my liking...Way more mellow
Not coughing harshly
Blueberry cottonmouth
Goes well with Root Beer
Real cottonmouth instead of that Pill type medicine Cottonmouth like that Kalifornia Kush gave me
Bong Necessary
Pleasant Aroma...If I came across this plant in Nature I'd probably eat it......It smells awesome Like the blue Hubba Bubba prior to 1985
If my wife was here right now I'd be hittin that shit like a Caveman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4SGtaHAAYE)

That wasn't me...

I'm fairly well high

Bro...I hope you aren't thinking the Damiana had that effect on you.(slap) It's the chemical the Damiana is infused with. Most likely JWH-073 which is the "couch-lock" type of CB agonist compared to the JWH-018 which is more like the "trippy, anxious" CB agonist, or any of a half dozen other research chemicals that are still legal.

I have some untreated Damiana and the effect is so subtle you'd have to be straight to notice it and it's not at all like weed. It does have a very slight effect though, mainly seems to make me horny :D. And it can be addictive just like nicotine. The Damiana that is.

Check eBay for "Herbal Spice Incense" and you'll find hundreds of listings. Damiana is the prime base for the chemical. It's mild, burns well, looks like pot, and is fuzzy so it holds the chemical crystals nicely.

Just saying. They can make it with dried cabbage and it'll get you high. It costs less than a dollar a gram to make the stuff, so these guys getting $15 and $20 a gram are laughing all the way to the bank.

DaMulta
11-13-2010, 01:35 PM
h8LXiHg-rBc

jmcslob
11-13-2010, 11:07 PM
What I don't like about this Legal stuff is that is a quick draw to it and a fast burn compared to POT..

Is the chemical Available?
I'd like to try it on Pot Leaves which I can make at home

CyberDruid
11-15-2010, 12:39 PM
For my lab rats I treat the herbs with Honey and Vanilla using a small quantity of hot water. Then I infuse the herbs with the appropriate additive and some pure peppermint oil. The treatment slows down the burn and removes the "burning leaf pile" smell and flavor. The rats like it.

Keeping the stuff semi moist is easy. Put an orange peel or a slice of apple in the container to revive the material. The additive is not water soluble, so adding a little moisture will not effect it, just the burn rate, flavor, etc.

jmcslob
11-15-2010, 11:26 PM
Ok bought some Strawberry "Oh my God"
Nice..
comes in a pouch and has moisture
Hits smooth with a hint of Strawberry harshness
Draws nice til about half way cashed and then it's a sudden burn..
So small, one hitter, bowls and or bongs are good...

EDIT:
So ok when I first wrote this post I had only taken 3 very small hits which kept me at a comfortable buzz for about 2 hours.
So like after that my wife wanted to try some so I really packed up a rather large Bowl and we smoked it and then I pack up a normal bowl..
Did I mention this shit is a creeper..
Anyways just as we finished the 2nd bowl my wife looks at me and says what the fuck did you just do to me and starts laughing...I mean absolute giddy hehe haha on the floor almost pissing yourself laughing...


Now I'm feeling good but not as good as her But I was real thirst so I got up to get a pop and BOOM
I'm like full out tripping...
I'm just now coming down.....I smoked the last bowl 5 hours ago...
The trip lasted about 1.5 hours then it was a normal high for the rest of the time...


It says on the back of the pouch it comes in...


This
Aromatherapy Blend
is so Heavenly.
So divine . it
Will Make You
SAY....
OH MY GOD

and YES,
YES it will.....
I really recommend this stuff
OMG seriously

CyberDruid
11-16-2010, 01:32 PM
I'm ready for some real mara-ju-wana. It's been ages...

DaMulta
11-16-2010, 02:26 PM
ROFL You finally did it to yourself, and tripped balls ROFL.

I mixed some with some Mary Jane over the weekend. It was very nice:P

Lab rats loved it!

CyberDruid
11-16-2010, 02:48 PM
ROFL You finally did it to yourself, and tripped balls ROFL.

I mixed some with some Mary Jane over the weekend. It was very nice:P

Lab rats loved it!

Not me. My receptors have a leathery covering :D Someone Who Isn't Me got sick as a dog. Not a happy hampster at all.

jmcslob
11-17-2010, 12:14 AM
I'd like to know why other members are not a participating in this thread...
Such as SK..

I'd really like to see W1ZZ post something here
or at the least DAN..or BTA

I'd bet at least 2 of em smoke...

I also know certain mods partake here and there...

Wile E
11-17-2010, 08:51 AM
I don't smoke anymore, so I can't be considered a pot lover.

I've always been more of an opiate lover, tbh.

SK-1
11-17-2010, 08:54 AM
I'd like to know why other members are not a participating in this thread...
Such as SK..

I'd really like to see W1ZZ post something here
or at the least DAN..or BTA

I'd bet at least 2 of em smoke...

I also know certain mods partake here and there...

:confused: I've got a number of posts here. I guess #80 sums it up for me.
I'm just paranoid of the "man made" aspect. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking ANYONE for doing whatever.... As a mater of fact I'm totally fascinated with the detailed reports.(toast)

jmcslob
11-17-2010, 10:08 AM
:confused: I've got a number of posts here. I guess #80 sums it up for me.
I'm just paranoid of the "man made" aspect. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking ANYONE for doing whatever.... As a mater of fact I'm totally fascinated with the detailed reports.(toast)

Oh sorry....Short term memory issues...:D

jmcslob
11-19-2010, 03:29 AM
OK
So today I got some
MOJO Diamond...California Citrus
AND
Strawberry Mr. Nice guy

So I started off with MOJO Diamond
and was like meh....meh
It's alright but meh~

So I figured WTF might as well try out that Strawberry Mr. Nice Guy...

WOOOOO
Not such a good idea
Well only cause I wasn't expecting it...

About 35 minutes after finishing the bowl of "MOJO Diamond"
I smoked a bowl of "Strawberry Mr. Nice guy"
and about 5 minutes after smoking "Strawberry Mr. Nice guy" I started to TRIP a bit for about 25 minutes after which point I started to TRIP BALLS...

I had strobe light vision...colors were weird...My heart stopped beating and started purring and Then I watched Charlie Brown Thanksgiving...I should have not watched that...

I will never never never never mix two different formulas again....
Without having had planned on it from the beginning....

I have never been so pleasantly surprised by something like this other than finding out my OJ was laced with 7 hits of LSD ......

OH yeah btw this little accident lasted for 4 hours...well I'm still extremely buzzed/stoned but the actual TRIP lasted 4 hours

WOWZERS


EDIT:
Oh yeah Strawberry Mr. Nice Guy tastes and smells like Strawberry "Big League Chew"

CyberDruid
11-19-2010, 12:54 PM
Holy crap. I wonder what they put in Mr. Nice Guy?

@SK-1 I'm concerned about chronic smoking of a research chemical too. I researched it and continue to research it. So far it appears to be less harmful than marijuana mainly due to the lack of complex hydrocarbons that break down into furans and polyaromatic hydrocarbons when they burn. As noted somewhere above MJ smoke has vinyl chlorides and some 400 other compounds...but somehow we've survived it for decades :D

The herb Damiana has been smoked and used in tinctures and herbals since before written history. I've noted no lung issues, no phlegm or coughing associated with the smoking of Damiana. Marshmallow leaf is a newer smoking herb, and other than a woody taste and smell it seems to be mild and easy on the lungs.

So the substrate is basically harmless...obviously inhaling any kind of smoke is not healthy, but compared to tobacco or Marijuana it does have less tar, containing almost no plant resin.

The actual research chemical, JHW-018 was never "designed" to be smoked. All reports I have read on it suggest "in vitro" tests using cloned or harvested live cells and looking for metabolites using gas chromatographic spectrometry to identify the changes. The researcher was mainly interested in developing a CB agonist that has a high Ki affiliation with the CB2 receptor. JWH-018 showed an impartial affiliation to the CB2 receptor and a high ki toward the CB1 receptor. In vitro analysis showed that JWH-018 shrank non-melanoma cancers. Test with lab rats (real ones lol) were done by injecting the RC in a precise body-weight ratio. The RC proved to have very low toxicity. The only deaths reported were from extremely high doses that caused some male rats to fall asleep and stop breathing. Rabbits showed no proclivity toward asphyxiation from low respiratory rate.

Apparently burning the RC does change it's chemical arrangement to some degree. A great deal more is required to achieve the same effect compared to oral ingestion. according to reports from users it can be vaporized, and this is likely the purpose of the substrate...to control the burn temperature to promote proper vaporization. However the exact chemical compound being ingested is unknown.

It's cheap, it's legal, and people are going to use it. Luckily it seems to be fairly harmless.

SK-1
11-19-2010, 06:19 PM
Buku Informative!..Thanks Cyber(toast)

jmcslob
11-21-2010, 12:19 AM
I do not recommend Strawberry "Mr. Nice Guy"
That shit is only good if you want to trip balls...
I don't like it..
It's not even really a trip it's more like when you chug a 1/5 of 100+ proof alcohol right before you start twitching from Alcohol poisoning....

I even tried just smoking a little bit of it...
You either get nothing or completely fucked up..
and I think it's slightly physically addictive too....

It for a lack of better words "Rings your Bell"
Those of you that have tried other Hard core drugs will no what I mean by that

Mojo Diamond is worth trying
I do recommend it..
it's a mellow and relaxing incense but it's a total creeper and takes some time to take affect

CyberDruid
11-21-2010, 01:46 AM
Sounds to me like Mr. Nice Guy has some Win-55 in it.

DaMulta
11-21-2010, 04:47 AM
I do not recommend Strawberry "Mr. Nice Guy"
That shit is only good if you want to trip balls...
I don't like it..
It's not even really a trip it's more like when you chug a 1/5 of 100+ proof alcohol right before you start twitching from Alcohol poisoning....

I even tried just smoking a little bit of it...
You either get nothing or completely fucked up..
and I think it's slightly physically addictive too....

It for a lack of better words "Rings your Bell"
Those of you that have tried other Hard core drugs will no what I mean by that

Mojo Diamond is worth trying
I do recommend it..
it's a mellow and relaxing incense but it's a total creeper and takes some time to take affect

LOL Sonic boom makes me trip balls if I smoke more than 3 hits of it. I normally only will take one bong pull per hour if I'm smoking. I can take a hit before I'm off to work, and be high I mean REALLY high....yet, coming down before I roll in the door to work.

I gave my boss some LOL, his wife took a pic of his ass all assed out. Cause he put it in a vaporizer and took about 5 hits off of it. LOL

CyberDruid
11-21-2010, 04:57 AM
nom

DaMulta
12-04-2010, 04:55 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/101204/oyea.jpg

O YEA

jmcslob
12-04-2010, 08:09 AM
Fresh

DaMulta
12-04-2010, 02:33 PM
O god is it ever fresh! Just has that taste of well taken care of/

I also have some darker top notch stuff that has the kick ass pine cone taste too it.

Then some get you higher than a dog sitting on a bucket trying to fuck it, but does not all that taste good. Plus it puts you to sleep hardcore... ....

(also have some home grown from next d.)

LOL

ProgressiveTokyo
12-04-2010, 05:22 PM
Friend just brought back some killer kind bud from Oregon. Blazing up, stoned as hell...gonna go to bed.

Best Christmas present ever (its rare and expensive as hell in Japan)

CyberDruid
12-05-2010, 04:13 PM
I haven't seen nug in ages now.

CyberDruid
12-23-2010, 11:18 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101223/ap_on_re_us/us_robertson_marijuana

Pat Robertson comes out against harsh pot laws.:eek:

jmcslob
12-28-2010, 12:21 AM
Baked...Incense
Does not contain CP 47,497 HU 210 JWH 018, JWH 073....
and it works.....YAY!!!!

CyberDruid
12-28-2010, 05:10 AM
What is the active ingredient?

jmcslob
12-28-2010, 06:11 AM
Doesn't say...
just names the same plants that was in before the switch and then it has a label that specifically states that it doesn't have those chemicals

CyberDruid
12-28-2010, 01:50 PM
Hmmmmm. Looks like Cyber needs to do some more research.

DaMulta
12-28-2010, 03:25 PM
I want my sonic boom

FUCKERS

I has like a few more bowels of it left, and it looks like spice is off the market.

https://4aceswholesale.com

What do you guys think of the other herbs they are carrying now?

CyberDruid
12-28-2010, 03:37 PM
The JWH-xxx chemicals are still legal right now. You can order the RC online. Make your own.

jmcslob
12-28-2010, 05:05 PM
The new stuff works the same but for a shorter period of time and then you feel an intense urge to nap....

EDIT:
You have to give yourself a good amount of time between smoking times with this stuff cause you can Literally smoke yourself sober with this stuff...
Either that or it shuts down the part of your brain that makes you feel fucked up...but I doubt that...maybe...not sure really...Wooooooo

I bought two kinds as they were 1g bags that are 2 for $15 and "Fantasy Fire" is way better than "Baked"...
Like totally different in a better way But it lists exactly the same Plants as "Baked" hmmmmmm?

CyberDruid
12-28-2010, 06:50 PM
The plants have nothing to do with the active ingredient. But I said that already.

Thanks for the report. Sounds like maybe AM-2201. The makers seem to be steering away from JWH series and going for the AM series. I don't think it will last though...because the DEA has specifically come out against "fake weed" of any and all types. Though difficult to prosecute the Analog Act could be redrafted t make it easy to end it all. The good news is the DEA has also stated they are not going after end users, they are targetting makers and sellers.

CyberDruid
12-30-2010, 05:34 AM
H8fwyc2jqro

overclocking101
12-31-2010, 12:27 AM
I used to smoke. havent touched it in 4 years. im going to be off probation soon, and hell who knows! I dont think I'll ever get back into smoking real crazy like I used to but, back in the day there wasnt a way to smoke that I didnt try.

EDIT: also what is this fake weed you all are speaking of?? does it come out clean in urine tests??

jmcslob
12-31-2010, 12:40 AM
I used to smoke. havent touched it in 4 years. im going to be off probation soon, and hell who knows! I dont think I'll ever get back into smoking real crazy like I used to but, back in the day there wasnt a way to smoke that I didnt try.

EDIT: also what is this fake weed you all are speaking of?? does it come out clean in urine tests??

Yeah you can smoke all you want and never test positive....It's awesome.....However they just made the good stuff illegal too..as of 12/24/2010 it's also a schedule 1 Narcotic...

Good news is they have a New Formula...Fantasy Fire...Just as Good as the Last Formula

DaMulta
12-31-2010, 03:06 AM
O look what DaMulta just found!!!

SONIC ZERO

Blue Berry!!!

http://www.herbalincenseking.com/products/Sonic-Zero.html

jmcslob
12-31-2010, 05:45 AM
All the New shit actually smell like Incense.....
So they can actually be sold as Incense...
The Shit I have actually makes the whole house smell like Burnt Blueberry Muffins and it taste like Finger Paint with a hint of Burnt Hair

Bundy
12-31-2010, 09:34 PM
The Shit I have actually makes the whole house smell like Burnt Blueberry Muffins and it taste like Finger Paint with a hint of Burnt Hair

Thats what it is probably made from. Are you guys not concerned about the ingredients or what the combustion produces?

CyberDruid
12-31-2010, 10:44 PM
O look what DaMulta just found!!!

SONIC ZERO

Blue Berry!!!

http://www.herbalincenseking.com/products/Sonic-Zero.html
Does that silver label list AM-2201? If not that's probably what is in it. Or some other AM series.

All the New shit actually smell like Incense.....
So they can actually be sold as Incense...
The Shit I have actually makes the whole house smell like Burnt Blueberry Muffins and it taste like Finger Paint with a hint of Burnt Hair
The JWH series they used at first was (far as anyone has been able to determine) relatively harmless...a Napthaloid ring with some hydrogens hanging off it. But the other types that are not yet scheduled have Flourine as a base. If you check out Drug-Forum people describe the taste of AM-2201 and Win-55 among others as hard to stomach...so loading the substrate with a cover-flavor/aroma is probably the only way anyone would smoke it more than once.

Thats what it is probably made from. Are you guys not concerned about the ingredients or what the combustion produces?
That's a valid concern. They are completely untested research chemicals made for in vitro testing of CB receptor binding. They were never designed to be ingested let alone burned. There is really no telling what is released from a compound once it is burned.

For myself I found it was an interesting novelty. But I am no longer keen on ingesting the "Spice" because the people making do not give a fuck if it's toxic or not. They are not chemists, or even researchers, they are straight up profiteers cashing in on the fact the shit costs about $1 a gram to make and people will pay $5-$20 per gram. In fact the greed of these spice merchants is exactly why the DEA is cracking down. The Spice Makers think they can just substitute something else that gets you high...but if that was the ideal RC to use then why was it not used in the first place? The DEA is going to round up a bunch of vendors at once like they did a decade a go with Web Tryp and that will be the end of it. It won't matter what is in it, they'll pass a broad law if they have to.

DaMulta
01-01-2011, 08:35 PM
new

http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/images/25ct%20Blue%20Dragon%203.JPG
http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/images/Cloud%2049%20ultra%20strong.JPG
http://www.4aceswholesale.com/cart/images/red%20dragon%2013ct.JPG

CyberDruid
01-01-2011, 08:37 PM
WTF. The greedy bastards sell it by the half gram now?

DaMulta
01-03-2011, 06:16 PM
Hi,
We are sorry but all herbal incense and spice has been banned from Oklahoma. We are going to cancel your order and your credit card has not been charge.

fouraceswholesale.com

FUCK

jmcslob
01-03-2011, 06:57 PM
WOW
and the shit I'm buying now comes in a 3G bag...
But you have to smoke like 3 bowls to equal 1 of the old stuff.....
I think I may just go back to POT...
Well when it's done anyways
one of my babies is finally growing hair...YAY

CyberDruid
01-03-2011, 09:06 PM
Hairy babies are good. Smoking spice? Who knows. Probably about as harmful as smoking anything I imagine, but frankly I am glad it's about over. Unscrupulous vendors will put anything in the stuff, and there is no oversight, no quality control. It's not like a plant that grew from the earth. This shit is created from toxic chemicals in a lab and not all of it is "clean" so it's not just the RC you have to wonder about...it's all the residual chemicals from manufacturing it. No one in their right mind would knowingly smoke acetone, naptha or flourine...but I betcha dollars to donuts some of the "incense" out there is laden with it. And what about the flavors? If strong flavors like that were actually known to be safe for smoking wouldn't there be cigars and pipe and cigarette products with the same over powering scents. My guess is the stinky incensy aromas were never meant to be ingested and are probably worse for you than the damn JWH or whatever.

I'm sorry I ever introduced you guys to it now...it's just not a known quantity.

jmcslob
01-15-2011, 07:01 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/110115/10 weeks.jpg

DaMulta
01-21-2011, 07:52 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/110121/sour island.jpg

sour island

should of been called Oklahoma Skunk Weed

Cause it's epic stinky!!

CyberDruid
01-21-2011, 01:59 PM
My buddy has some nug that is too strong. I rarely say that. I can't even enjoy it...it just knocks me out.

Wile E
01-22-2011, 05:03 AM
My buddy has some nug that is too strong. I rarely say that. I can't even enjoy it...it just knocks me out.

That's the kind of shit you put in the one hitter. The bag lasts longer that way.

CyberDruid
01-22-2011, 02:09 PM
He has always merched out the finest nug...but this is too strong to enjoy. He served me up a tiny pinch and I was woggling around like a n00b, red eyed, mouth parched, unable to form a sentence...

Even a 1/2 a bong hit mixed into 3 times as much tobacco is strong...not too strong...but the flavor and effect are way up there on the yum yum yum scale...which encourages over indulgence...(slap)

Wile E
01-23-2011, 03:43 AM
He has always merched out the finest nug...but this is too strong to enjoy. He served me up a tiny pinch and I was woggling around like a n00b, red eyed, mouth parched, unable to form a sentence...

Even a 1/2 a bong hit mixed into 3 times as much tobacco is strong...not too strong...but the flavor and effect are way up there on the yum yum yum scale...which encourages over indulgence...(slap)

lol. Fair enough.

jmcslob
01-23-2011, 04:44 AM
You can over indulge? Since when
LOL....I hate getting stoned, I just enjoy the buzz

CyberDruid
01-23-2011, 01:34 PM
An old hippy explained to me why he could only take a hit once in a great while. He said that at first he was getting high...but then he started getting stoned...

A puff...he's high as shit. A joint? He's useless.

Fucking hippies...don't know how to smoke weed...mix that shit with tobacco and a few select herbs and get on with it. Get high stay high. None of this stoned bullshit.

DaMulta
01-23-2011, 03:06 PM
This shit I got is super strong....I can only take 2 pulls from the old bong without being stupid high.

Yet, I smoke 1 hit of some strawberry kush the other day...OMFG I couldn't function.

CyberDruid
01-24-2011, 12:16 AM
I'm calling DCS.

DaMulta
01-24-2011, 12:22 AM
I'm calling DCS.

http://www.bennadel.com/resources/uploads/coldfusion_9_its_like_awesome_to_the_power_of_four .jpg

CyberDruid
01-24-2011, 12:26 AM
Looks like somebody needs to lube up, climb a ladder and take a dive down the octo-melon slip n slide.

jmcslob
01-24-2011, 02:21 AM
I told my wife that I wanted to be suspended upside down so I can have my head surrounded by those boobs...she immediately apologized for only having two boobs....I assured her she could make up for it later....LuLzzzz.

Samdbugman
01-27-2011, 01:00 AM
DaMulta posted pics of what im doing right now:D(toast)

jmcslob
01-27-2011, 02:49 AM
Your squishing your boobs against other boobs.....pics please

DaMulta
01-27-2011, 05:40 AM
I just got home, and I'm toking on some Blue Dream. has a nice blue tent too it, and taste amazing. Also feels your lungs up pounding wise, but doesn't make you cough really hard. Cause it has a real smooth underling taste to it.

Solaris17
01-27-2011, 06:20 AM
I'll one up you..
Every Smoker Ive ever met used caffeine before they smoked before they drank alcohol before they smoked weed..
Yeah that's right..

story of my life. caffine...man

DaMulta
01-29-2011, 02:10 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/110129/sunk.jpg

This one is called ISS
Island Sour SKunk

OMG Is it stinky, sticky, and STRONG!

Someone at work went outside, and took a few hits.....Lets just say they started interviewing people cause the whole building smelled like chronic......

Yet, it could of also been the fact everyone had some in their pocket LOL. I smell this shit in a bag across the room WHILE its in a tupperware jar.....

DaMulta
01-30-2011, 04:27 PM
Went and played poker last night, and took about 4g of ISS with me. After we started playing my buddy busted about about 5G of some Turkish Gold...

O God

We smoked it all out of a vaporizer while drinking shots, and beers with it.....

I was up 3 peoples piles of chips which gave me around 60-70 USD !!! Then it got down to the end of the night, and we had huge all in pot at the end.....

I lost with 3 4's with a kicker to the 2....My buddy also had 3-4'2 but with a kicker to the 5......

FUCKER

OK, I'm still stoned........gotta run and gets in the showers...

Baba Yaga
02-01-2011, 04:46 AM
I am nurse so can not talk about on internet. I will just say this.

F15thKUEECQ

DaMulta
02-01-2011, 05:01 AM
I haz a G. of some purple haze! It's so good, and tasty I don't even want to smoke it!

CyberDruid
02-01-2011, 12:29 PM
Just rub it on your upper lip.

DaMulta
02-03-2011, 12:57 AM
Kid at my parents, snowed in off work, pizza in the oven, and what do we have here? A plate of broken up nugs just waiting to be smoked.

O What to do....what to do.....:P

Reventon
02-03-2011, 02:10 AM
That sounds nice.

CyberDruid
02-03-2011, 02:52 AM
Smoke This

a4dhplvU0RY

DaMulta
02-05-2011, 02:31 PM
About to go pick up a OZ of some Nugs.....

hope they have what I think they have in!!!

Then go do some drop offs :P

CyberDruid
02-06-2011, 12:52 AM
Are those Nugs IPV6? If so route some this way.

DaMulta
02-09-2011, 03:37 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/110209/2011-02-09 10-33-47.581.jpg

O H.P.K in da house

CyberDruid
02-09-2011, 04:44 PM
Gladware indeed. Don't get mad get fucking high as shit woooooooooohooooooo.

jmcslob
03-25-2011, 05:27 AM
The glass on my Vape just broke!!!!!!! FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK!
Shipping plus repair cost is $190 FFFFFFFUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK THAT!!!!!
I can get this (http://www.herbalvaporizer.com/herbal-vaporizer-da-budda.html) for $160 and they seem to have a great warranty

LOOK AT THAT ***AMERICAN MADE***
Give the money to small businesses right here the USA

CyberDruid
03-25-2011, 11:20 AM
Dude. Have you seen the portable butane vape that DaMulta linked months ago? Looks kind of like a portable radio.

I just don't like vaping. I tried it a few times at my buddies house. He's had two different types. Both of them are a PITA. You just about hyperventilate to get the thing drawing properly, and then it does not taste or smell like pot...which to me is one of the great pleasures of smoking the weed...the smell and taste...and the high is not the same either.

I am not too big on bongs either...they are a mess...they stink and they ALWAYS get knocked over, usually on carpetting.

Give me a nice piece of glass, or some papers over either a vape or a bong any day. And for myself I prefer to mix tobacco with the herbs and rolll...straight pot by itself seems almost to strong...I like the way the tobacco works with it...the effect is more useful to me.

jmcslob
03-25-2011, 11:26 AM
LoL this ain't gonna sound right but I generally don't Vape to get high...It's more for pain relief and my old Vape was effortless to draw from...Your right it tastes like your breathing in grass trimmings and you don't really get high....

But take one hit from a bowl afterwards and you are LIT.....

CyberDruid
03-25-2011, 11:38 AM
Medical Marijuana for Medical Reasons? WTF? Are you stoned?

Actually I do the same. Or rather did before I had some surgery. Now as long as I am smart about it I don't have chronic pain.

jmcslob
03-25-2011, 11:49 AM
Yeah...I kind got crushed between a 48k lb steel coil and a safety rail and it fucked up my innards a bit....more or less the only problems are muscle spasms and cramping and I can't be on Muscle relaxers all day so I choose Pot....

CyberDruid
03-25-2011, 12:56 PM
Ouch.

jmcslob
03-25-2011, 01:10 PM
Ouch.

It only hurt for like 10 seconds Then I felt nothing but cold....Thankfully they used Cheap concrete bolts to anchor the safety rail or I'd of been cut in half...

CyberDruid
03-25-2011, 01:30 PM
I'm still trying to figure out where the fuck a 48,000 pound steel coil goes.

I "broke" my back swinging a 48 pound sledgehammer. I know...what a pussy. 2 surgeries later I'm still not quite right...but then again I never was.

Back then I was 185 pound 6-4. I had a 32" waist. Memories. 55 pounds later and 8 inches added to my gut made me shrink an inch :p and lugging that blubber around is a no good. But my guess is if I weigh 185 pounds again I'll be in a cancer ward...it just aint happening. I like my own cooking too much now :D

jmcslob
03-25-2011, 01:46 PM
I'm still trying to figure out where the fuck a 48,000 pound steel coil goes.

I "broke" my back swinging a 48 pound sledgehammer. I know...what a pussy. 2 surgeries later I'm still not quite right...but then again I never was.

Back then I was 185 pound 6-4. I had a 32" waist. Memories. 55 pounds later and 8 inches added to my gut made me shrink an inch :p and lugging that blubber around is a no good. But my guess is if I weigh 185 pounds again I'll be in a cancer ward...it just aint happening. I like my own cooking too much now :D

I got lucky....If it had hit me from the Flat side and not the nice curved side I'd definitely be dead....

Shit like that really changes your point of view in life...such as before the accident I liked to have the TP going over the roll Now I have to have it under..

Yeah Before the accident I took everything to seriously..Now I take everything I can for granted.....

Oh and Steel coils go all the way up 80k....Usually for easy make steel buildings

DaMulta
03-28-2011, 02:08 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/110327/0327112045.jpg

jmcslob
03-28-2011, 04:11 AM
^ That looks familiar LOL
I only have one nug left....But it's a big nug.....about 1/4
But that also means it's gonna have a thick stem....

Oh that reminds me...Don't just toss your stems...well the stems that in the center..They are still useful....After you get about 2-3 cups of em break em up and on the lowest heat you can take 2 sticks of unsalted butter and make some Cannabutter.

DaMulta
03-28-2011, 04:50 AM
I don't even break the shit up anymore lol....Just stuff, and puff lol

This was your just normal bomb Chronic LOL

jmcslob
03-28-2011, 04:55 AM
I do that with the little parts but not the big parts....But I'm guessing that's what you meant...

I'm having a hard time getting high because I have a really bad cough that would likely go away if I would not smoke for a few but then I'd be sick and sober...Sp fuck that..

DaMulta
03-28-2011, 04:59 AM
Just take one of those baby tabs for your cough. Like the 2.5mg or 5mg.....don't over do it.

DaMulta
03-28-2011, 05:20 AM
If you put a lot of pot on your motor. Would it work like a vaporizer, and get you stoned threw the vents?

I just seen it on trailer park boys boys lol

jmcslob
03-28-2011, 06:12 AM
I just quick bonged 2 bowls and wooooooooo!
gotta get it while I can breath...Fuck I feel good

Fitseries3
03-28-2011, 06:12 AM
hmmm....

bet you didnt know ol fitty had anything to do with this stuff :p

anyone here grow?

jmcslob
03-28-2011, 06:18 AM
Yeah I have some pics in here somewhere
this was my last generation prior to flowering
http://img.techpowerup.org/110115/10 weeks.jpg

Fitseries3
03-28-2011, 06:20 AM
just switched over to flowering lights and now they are kinda droopy.

any tips?

http://img.techpowerup.org/110328/Capture019.jpg

jmcslob
03-28-2011, 06:52 AM
No I don't think I really have any tips for you...you seem to be doing really well...
Are you seeing the sexes yet?
I wait until I get a good growth of hairs then I switch to 17 hours of full spectrum 6500k and 7 hours of darkness from 24/7 lighting
I see your growing Indica I'm currently growing Sativa
http://img.techpowerup.org/110328/321.png


Once it starts to Bush out I switch to 14 hours of light and 10 off
This is also when I take the "Clone branches"
i know it's hard to see but bud hairs will be at just about every Y split
http://img.techpowerup.org/110328/1324.png

And once it's wide and bushy and the dark leaves droop I switch to 5700k light (more red) and switch to a 14 hour lighting with 10 off
http://img.techpowerup.org/110328/655.png

From there the buds really start to grow...But from the looks of things you already know all of this...That's a nice setup

and about 8 weeks after the dark green leaves droop if all goes well your buds should start to look like this
http://img.techpowerup.org/110328/bud.png

It's hard to miss as it pretty much fills the entire center of the stem....

Fitseries3
03-28-2011, 11:51 AM
yeah i have everything automated... all i have to do is keep the water tank full with water and chems.

i used 3 250watt florescents for growing but im having troubles with these damn flowering bulbs. im not sure they are enough. i dont want to buy a damn expensive HPS setup, im just using full spectrum bulbs i found at walmart. 9x65watts.

any tips on lighting would be great.

CyberDruid
03-28-2011, 12:14 PM
LED lighting is low heat, low power draw, but EXPENSIVE to buy or even to build yourself.

If your growing space is in complete darkness and you cycle the lights 12 hours on 12 hours off the plants will bud no matter how shitty the light source. But if you want good buds you'll need good light. Whiter light for growth, Redder light to bud.

Since you have the nutrient automated you need to taper from Nitrogen rich to Phosphorous rich to support the budding. Nitrogen encourages planty growth, Phosphorous encourages fruiting and flowering.

Fitseries3
03-28-2011, 12:51 PM
well i was looking at something like this... http://cgi.ebay.com/225-LED-Quad-Band-Full-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Grow-Light-/110667368763?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c44a093b

would that be any good?

my setup is in a closet but its inside its own "box" i built out of plywood.

i have my lights set to 12h on 12h off right now, just switched over from 18h on 6 off.

i have 2 pelko 180mm fans, one intake, one exhaust to keep airflow moving. both in and out have filters and the inlet has a plenum to push the air towards the plants.

i have a hydroponic system setup with an old pond pump tubed up to a copper watering setup i fabbed. water runs for 1min, 3times daily and fills the tray the plants are in. im using clay beads for "soil" but the plant are growing in medium sized rockwool grow cubes.

i use a humidifier to keep humidity up around 60-80% and temps between 75f - 85f.

CyberDruid
03-28-2011, 01:26 PM
I did a fair amount of research online a while back and concluded that LED lights from eBay are not going to work. Not enough light output. Real LED grow lights are massive and need heat sinks to suck heat off the LED elements and active cooling on the sink. a 4 x 5 is around $1600. Just google LED Grow Lights. Less expensive options might be to use a proper HPS but with a digital ballast. LEDs will keep the space a lot cooler, that's obvious, but the money it will take to get going is ridiculous. Even a low end 136 watt light is close to $500. With proper ventilation HPS is more cost effective, if you use an efficient ballast (digital).

jmcslob
03-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Here is the best place to buy Bulbs....Any Full spectrum 400w equivalent CFL will work just fine...http://www.1000bulbs.com/category/compact-fluorescents/

HERE is a good example of a good CFL grow light http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/7649/FC105-05559.html

TheMailMan
03-28-2011, 06:32 PM
Smoking pot is illegal in the US. You should be ashamed of yourselves...........aw fuck I cant even finish this troll without laughing.

CyberDruid
03-28-2011, 07:25 PM
Fuck you you fucking fuck. (r)

For flowering you want the same color spectrum and temperature as you would expect in the fall.

For vegetative you want full spectrum (white) with a blue tinge.

There's shit loads of information about this, I'm just pointing out the obvious.

jmcslob
03-28-2011, 08:00 PM
Fuck you you fucking fuck. (r)

For flowering you want the same color spectrum and temperature as you would expect in the fall.

For vegetative you want full spectrum (white) with a blue tinge.

There's shit loads of information about this, I'm just pointing out the obvious.

Translation: Vegetative stage 6500k Lights
Flowering stage 4000k-5000k

For the Flowering stage Aquarium lights work great...Specially the ones that state they are good for under water plant life

Fits those lights you have will work out just fine....You just have to position them right....I didn't get any pics but I was over a friends house and he is using those 13w (65w equivalent) 6500k lights and he has em set in groups of 3 around each plant 6 inches above them......He's been able to grow a lot of herbs that are fairly good

Fitseries3
03-30-2011, 04:41 AM
is there any cons to growing several plants in a small area?

i have 5x 2ft tall plants inside a box thats 2ft x 2ft x 6ft

jmcslob
03-30-2011, 08:52 PM
I think your gonna need more room.....my single plant right now is 26 inches wide...I don't use the 20" system which is what most people use...
I learned a lot from this site (http://www.weedsthatplease.com/growindoors.htm) they have a great 20" system that does workout just fine but I prefer the taste and smoke that you can only get from a more mature plant.
EDIT: I should clarify that a bit...the 20" system is when your plant shows signs of sexing and reaches 20" in height...I see that it may have seemed as though I was referring to 20" width..

ProgressiveTokyo
04-01-2011, 10:24 AM
yeah i have everything automated... all i have to do is keep the water tank full with water and chems.

i used 3 250watt florescents for growing but im having troubles with these damn flowering bulbs. im not sure they are enough. i dont want to buy a damn expensive HPS setup, im just using full spectrum bulbs i found at walmart. 9x65watts.

any tips on lighting would be great.

The amount of money you would spend on wattage (real not equivalent) it actually works out to be more expensive to go with CFL than HPS. Also you can use the HPS during vegitative stage (while many growers go from Metal Halide to HPS, actually you can get great results from HPS the whole way through).

You can get a nice 400w ballast and bulb for under 200 USD. Buds will be better and more dense than from CFL lighting mainly due to lumens and light penetration.

I actually did a side by side comparison of CFL and HPS a few years ago. While the results from the CFL were not bad, HPS blows them out of the water.

ProgressiveTokyo
04-01-2011, 10:28 AM
Here is a great resource: http://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/267989-uncle-bens-gardening-tweeks-pointers.html

Uncle Ben has been doing this for years and years and is one of the best in the biz. I love the fact he cuts through the "canna" marketing bullshit and gives the real information with no spin. He uses NO product which is for the "canna market", says its all overpriced bullshit.

I tend to agree.

ProgressiveTokyo
04-01-2011, 10:42 AM
Here are some pics from a recent grow of mine:

You should try Uncle Bens Topping Tek: Wait until they grow to about the 5th or 6th node then top them at the second node. I did this with my clone momma and she now has 3 tops (had 4 but one got used in cloning).

Here is the lovely girl at the beginning of her flower cycle:

ProgressiveTokyo
04-01-2011, 10:46 AM
i use a humidifier to keep humidity up around 60-80% and temps between 75f - 85f.

For flowering you have your humidity way too high. You should be in the 45-50% RH range, and even less during the last 3 weeks (lower humidity will stimulate the plant to produce more resins and oils).

Fitseries3
04-06-2011, 06:40 AM
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!

the pollen is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO thick in here. you can see it in the light like dust from a gravel road.

we feel SUPER SPACED out 24/7.

this is not good

jmcslob
04-06-2011, 06:02 PM
If you got pollen then look for the little balls on your plants and gently cut the lower stem and get it out of there in a hurry.

CyberDruid
04-06-2011, 06:04 PM
Toooooo late. :(

jmcslob
04-06-2011, 06:10 PM
Well it just means he'll have seeds for the next generation :)

ProgressiveTokyo
04-07-2011, 02:07 AM
Buy feminized seeds and learn the art of cloning and you will never worry about pollen or seeded out girls ever again.

DaMulta
04-07-2011, 01:23 PM
LeKMzfte2Lc

O Let's get high!!!!!

CyberDruid
04-07-2011, 01:31 PM
And Hustle till I Die.

Skimpin aint easy

DaMulta
04-07-2011, 01:34 PM
My baby came out if the ground today!

Out of about a pound and a half of nug one seed was found, and that one seed was planted!!!!!