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1Kurgan1
12-09-2010, 04:09 AM
Just found this, was pretty cool to watch.

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JC316
12-09-2010, 04:47 AM
Awesome post. Who the hell uses a hoist to install a crankshaft?

de.das.dude
12-09-2010, 07:14 AM
what are the qualifications and how much is the pay?

JC316
12-09-2010, 08:22 AM
what are the qualifications and how much is the pay?

Usually an ungodly apprenticeship time and then a less than stellar paycheck. Unless you come in with 10+ years experience anyway. Basically, they aren't going to let a novice come in and build one. Even someone with my kind of experience probably wouldn't get there right away.

de.das.dude
12-09-2010, 10:41 AM
what about a bachelors in mechanical engineering, a masters in automobile designing and a couple of years of work thrown in?

DrPepper
12-09-2010, 11:03 AM
Why not make your own engines then ?

de.das.dude
12-09-2010, 11:51 AM
Why not make your own engines then ?

bleh. wholl gimme the materials and shit.

JC316
12-09-2010, 06:44 PM
what about a bachelors in mechanical engineering, a masters in automobile designing and a couple of years of work thrown in?

That usually means that you are going to be designing new cars, not building them. They will usually put you in some kind of in house training program before they let you build em.

DrPepper
12-09-2010, 06:46 PM
bleh. wholl gimme the materials and shit.

Nah you went to university you should be able to get the materials yourself like all great companies had to.

1Kurgan1
12-10-2010, 01:36 AM
what about a bachelors in mechanical engineering, a masters in automobile designing and a couple of years of work thrown in?

If you got those I would be impressed by your questions in the thread about making more power. But I agree with JC on this one, it sounds like a designer to me, got to know that motor top to bottom, if you can't assemble a motor by yourself, then I wouldn't expect a spot on a team where so much pride is involved that each engine is stamped with it's makers name.

JC316
12-10-2010, 02:01 AM
If you got those I would be impressed by your questions in the thread about making more power. But I agree with JC on this one, it sounds like a designer to me, got to know that motor top to bottom, if you can't assemble a motor by yourself, then I wouldn't expect a spot on a team where so much pride is involved that each engine is stamped with it's makers name.

Yeah, something tells me that when you are hand building an engine in a $100K car, then you have to be the best of the best.

erocker
12-10-2010, 02:04 AM
I find the person who made the automated tools even more impressive. God I wish I could build an engine that way... and with all new parts.

JC316
12-10-2010, 02:08 AM
I find the person who made the automated tools even more impressive. God I wish I could build an engine that way... and with all new parts.

+1. I especially like the main bolt impact wrench.

erocker
12-10-2010, 02:48 AM
I've been building a 351 Windsor (bored to a 393) all week in my off-time at work. It's amazing how much more simple it is than this AMG engine and the fact it will probablly take me four times longer to build it.

de.das.dude
12-10-2010, 05:57 AM
If you got those I would be impressed by your questions in the thread about making more power. But I agree with JC on this one, it sounds like a designer to me, got to know that motor top to bottom, if you can't assemble a motor by yourself, then I wouldn't expect a spot on a team where so much pride is involved that each engine is stamped with it's makers name.

hey i just started. after bachelors, i'll do that masters in designing.

DannibusX
12-10-2010, 07:11 AM
I've been building a 351 Windsor (bored to a 393) all week in my off-time at work. It's amazing how much more simple it is than this AMG engine and the fact it will probablly take me four times longer to build it.

That's a beast, what's it going in?

SK-1
12-10-2010, 07:45 AM
I find the person who made the automated tools even more impressive. God I wish I could build an engine that way... and with all new parts.

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1Kurgan1
12-10-2010, 09:45 AM
I find the person who made the automated tools even more impressive. God I wish I could build an engine that way... and with all new parts.

Yeah, would be nice to torque down a head completely with out having to hit each bolt and have everything be done evenly without having to star pattern bolts.

hey i just started. after bachelors, i'll do that masters in designing.

Well you were talking like you already had those. (toast) After your done, possibly, but still probably not as its more design oriented. But if something like that is your goal, start tearing into engines on your spare time. I'll rip a motor down to nuts and bolts and put it back together again and I haven't ever gone to school for anything like that.

de.das.dude
12-10-2010, 11:00 AM
Yeah, would be nice to torque down a head completely with out having to hit each bolt and have everything be done evenly without having to star pattern bolts.



Well you were talking like you already had those. (toast) After your done, possibly, but still probably not as its more design oriented. But if something like that is your goal, start tearing into engines on your spare time. I'll rip a motor down to nuts and bolts and put it back together again and I haven't ever gone to school for anything like that.

thats not how it works in India.

1Kurgan1
12-10-2010, 11:24 AM
Not how what works? Learning on your own without schooling? Thats how the real world works, most of my knowledge is from trial and error and teaching myself. And my dad in the background telling me that I did it wrong, but not really saying what I did wrong.

It just doesn't make sense for me to hear "thats not how it works here". I don't know whats not working, you will be learning, no it won't get you a degree, no it won't land you a job at Mercedes, but if you decide to take a path like this in schooling, it really helps to step into the class with half a mind on whats going on there. That works anywhere, including India.

CyberDruid
12-10-2010, 01:07 PM
Apprentice under a master mechanic. Find someone that is the best engine builder in your locale and see if you can be useful. I got fascinated by engine building back in the late 70's when I was tinkering with aircooled VW engines. Everything was learned the hard way by breaking stuff. I read manuals and studied parts and swapped info with other VW tinkers and after a year or too I was able to take anything apart and put it back together except the transaxle...which was a bit daunting. It's about learning and following procedure. Understanding the reason behind the procedures comes later :p

de.das.dude
12-10-2010, 02:26 PM
Not how what works? Learning on your own without schooling? Thats how the real world works, most of my knowledge is from trial and error and teaching myself. And my dad in the background telling me that I did it wrong, but not really saying what I did wrong.

It just doesn't make sense for me to hear "thats not how it works here". I don't know whats not working, you will be learning, no it won't get you a degree, no it won't land you a job at Mercedes, but if you decide to take a path like this in schooling, it really helps to step into the class with half a mind on whats going on there. That works anywhere, including India.

same here. most i know about computers is all experimenting and trial and error. over here we dont have our own garages where we can take something apart. hell.... i live in the heart of the city. we dont even have a car.

erocker
12-10-2010, 03:13 PM
same here. most i know about computers is all experimenting and trial and error. over here we dont have our own garages where we can take something apart. hell.... i live in the heart of the city. we dont even have a car.

I suggest you go somewhere that you can work on cars.

That's a beast, what's it going in?
1995 F-150 Lightning... for now.

1Kurgan1
12-11-2010, 01:27 AM
same here. most i know about computers is all experimenting and trial and error. over here we dont have our own garages where we can take something apart. hell.... i live in the heart of the city. we dont even have a car.

Get an engine stand and rip it apart in your basement or a room that don't matter.

Wile E
12-11-2010, 08:56 AM
I suggest you go somewhere that you can work on cars.


1995 F-150 Lightning... for now.

Your Lightning?

And I haven't seen a 1st Gen Lightning in ages. I still love those trucks. I'd happily take any generation Lightning, tbh.

We need pics.

DannibusX
12-11-2010, 08:58 AM
I'd love to have a Lightning from any gen. Those are some seriously awesome trucks.

I'm thinking of putting a 351 for my '79 F-150. The 400 that's in it is a puke.

Wile E
12-11-2010, 09:01 AM
400m?

de.das.dude
12-11-2010, 03:28 PM
I suggest you go somewhere that you can work on cars.

hey everyone im up for keeps!


Get an engine stand and rip it apart in your basement or a room that don't matter.
did i mention i am poor?

Deusxmachina
12-11-2010, 06:06 PM
if you can't assemble a motor by yourself, then I wouldn't expect a spot on a team where so much pride is involved that each engine is stamped with it's makers name.

Yeah, probably hard to get a job paying you to assemble engines if you've never assembled an engine. Never know though... a friend of mine got a job that involved knowing your way around a machine and hand tools and all that, and the first time he had to use a socket wrench, he thought it was broken because it wasn't turning in the direction he wanted.

Anywho, since we're on the subject -- a fixed-camera angle, so not quite as artsy. 4-1/2 hours condensed to 6-1/2 minutes.

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Wile E
12-12-2010, 06:23 PM
I'd love to have a Lightning from any gen. Those are some seriously awesome trucks.

I'm thinking of putting a 351 for my '79 F-150. The 400 that's in it is a puke.

You know you can use Cleveland style heads on the 400M, right? Just need 400M specific intakes, or an adapter to use Cleveland manifolds.