Need to lose some weight, suggestions?

[Xazax]

Well as the topic says! what do i do? for the last week or so i haven't even lost a single pound, i did a 8 mile power walk at 5.0 incline on my treadmill as well as various arm exercises, i also only been eating 1-2 meals a day with no snacks in between, no candy no soda(Well sometimes Diet Soda!) for the past 2-3 weeks. Making sure i eat fruits, yogurts, good stuff!

O and various exercise ideas would be nice!

[Wile E]

Well as the topic says! what do i do? for the last week or so i haven't even lost a single pound, i did a 8 mile power walk at 5.0 incline on my treadmill as well as various arm exercises, i also only been eating 1-2 meals a day with no snacks in between, no candy no soda(Well sometimes Diet Soda!) for the past 2-3 weeks. Making sure i eat fruits, yogurts, good stuff!

O and various exercise ideas would be nice!

First off, eating 1 or 2 meals is hurting you. Your body panics, and immediately tries to store as much as possible when you eat only once or twice daily.

It's far better to break your meal up into 5 or 6 smaller meals throughout the day, instead of 1 or 2 larger ones. This will help raise your metabolism.

Other than that, keep it up on the exercise. Walking is OK to do everyday, weight lifting is not. Your body need time to recoup after weights. Every other day is the max that is recommended. And even then, you should alternate the areas worked every workout.

[Xazax]

What kind of small meals do you suggest and at what times??

[ckydmk]

Eat 3-4 times a day. balanced, healthy meals. Cut down on carbs and sugars. and to lose weight, walking is going to do nothing or very little

[JC316]

Biggest thing is to cut out eating at night. Don't eat anything past say 8PM. Also, eliminate as much sugar from your diet as possible. This is difficult as nearly everything has sugar, but it is possible. I have done it and my mom is currently doing it. AVOID DIET SODA"S AT ALL COSTS!!!! In addition to being horrible for your health, they can actually cause you to gain weight. See here for more info Diet Soda = Bad (http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20050613/drink-more-diet-soda-gain-more-weight)

If you are dieing for something sweet, check out Agave Nectar and Steiva. Both are insanely low on the glycemic index and will not spike your blood sugar. If your blood sugar spikes, it causes an insulin reaction to compensate. The insulin stores the excess sugar as fat.

Also, check here to see what your maintainance calories are http://www.my-calorie-counter.com/Calorie_Calculator.asp If you can get your calorie intake lower than that, then you will be losing weight.

Walking really doesn't help that much for weight loss, what you need is something to get the heart rate up and get you sweating. Wind sprints are excellent for this, plus it will build the shit out of your endurance.

Get warmed up with say 5 minutes of jogging, then run as fast as you can until you are really sucking wind, then slow it down to a jog till you are breathing normally again, then rinse and repeat.

Also, get on a regular work out schedule, this will kick your body into high gear for burning fat and building muscle. If you consume maintenance calories you will lean out and get strong, but not put on excessive muscle weight.

Your meals should be small and frequent. maybe 5 total in a day each making 400 calories.

[DaMulta]

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I eat all day, I drink pop all day, YET I always lose weight LOL

Legal dope is what this stuff is lol

I lost 40 lbs from Sep to Dec 2 pills a day that's it. I'm at 200 right now, I stopped taking it 2 months ago and gained 8 lbs back......So I went back on it. I would like to be at 175...

(also side effect your penis gets larger :rolleyes: ROFL no lie....)

and you could be awake for days.....

[JC316]

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I eat all day, I drink pop all day, YET I always lose weight LOL

Legal dope is what this stuff is lol

I lost 40 lbs from Sep to Dec 2 pills a day that's it. I'm at 200 right now, I stopped taking it 2 months ago and gained 8 lbs back......So I went back on it. I would like to be at 175...

(also side effect your penis gets larger :rolleyes: ROFL no lie....)

and you could be awake for days.....

Stuff like that can be helpful in losing weight, just make sure that you monitor your blood pressure. I have known guys that have damn near killed themselves by taking too much of the "Legal Speed". Escalation was the hard stuff back in the late 80's and early 90's. It was pure ephedrine, basically herbal speed.

[Xazax]

I dont like taking any drugs, i believe they fuck with your system too much, i dont trust any of those "wieght loss" or anything

[DaMulta]

These worked and are so strong that they were banned for a few yeasr.

Yep have to test my blood pressure on them all the time!

[yogurt_21]

they got some weight loss pills from the 1800's that have tape worms in them. you should try those.

[Chris]

they got some weight loss pills from the 1800's that have tape worms in them. you should try those.
I watched "1000 ways to die" on TV last year but a lady swallowed tape worm larva. She lost about 40-80 pounds but the tapeworm grew to be a few yards long. She died.

Xazax: Speaking to a nurse or doctor is highly recommended because they can help you plan and create an effective method to lose weight.

[LittleLizard]

Xazax: Speaking to a nurse or doctor is highly recommended because they can help you plan and create an effective method to lose weight.

i support that.

also the best way to lose weight is walking but not in a machine but in the streets. look for a friend house that live like 20 blocks away and go walking and return walking. i do that and although i eat like crap, i never gain any weight :D.

[paulieg]

Hey Xazax, send me a PM, and I'll set up a training program for you. Sensible eating small meals several times a day and the RIGHT kind of exercise is the only thing that will work long term. I was a ACE certified personal trainer for 10 years, until it burned me out.

[El_Mayo]

@Xaxax how much do you weigh at the moment though?

[T3hPwn3r3r]

Quit eating fatty foods, go to light everything. Quit drinking soda and only drink coffee and tea black. No fast food. Play soccer.

Took me from the fat kit to star club soccer athlete :P

[erocker]

What do your meals consist of? It's good to eat things like fruit but eat them in moderation as they still contain a lot of sugar. Eating things like cheese with fruit is good as the calcium will absorb some of the sugar.
Eat carbohydrates very lightly and stick to carbs that have a lot of fiber such a whole grains.
Fiber is key as it helps pass everything you eat through your system more quickly giving it less chance to turn to fat.
Diet soda has no sugar but stay away from it anyways, it's just plain unhealthy and your kidneys and liver hate it.
You aren't going to lose much weight at first, as a matter of fact you main gain a very little bit at first, but once your body adjusts and your motabalism raises, the pounds will start coming off. :)

[Xazax]

Well what i've have been doing is Eating a lite breakfast which consists of Slimfast drink and a nutriagrain bar, eating 1 "regular meal" basically 1 normal plate of food, chicken, rice, salad etc around 2-3ish, maybe some fruit or yogurt near dinner time. I admit tough i havent being doing so great i still drink diet soda from time to time maybe 1-2 a week, also some icecream :/ cant help it... but i have been running a lot more as well as doing more push-ups.

Some facts

Height: 5"-10
Weight: 219 pound

Reason: joining the marines need to lose some weight and get better in fitness.

Does anyone have some exercise routines or different exercises then the norm?

[T3hPwn3r3r]

Do lots of running.

Also, eat a bigger breakfast and progressively smaller meals throughout the day. Get your metabolism going strong and fast right off the bat.

On that note, you'll lose plenty of weight when basic comes around.

[JC316]

Well what i've have been doing is Eating a lite breakfast which consists of Slimfast drink and a nutriagrain bar, eating 1 "regular meal" basically 1 normal plate of food, chicken, rice, salad etc around 2-3ish, maybe some fruit or yogurt near dinner time. I admit tough i havent being doing so great i still drink diet soda from time to time maybe 1-2 a week, also some icecream :/ cant help it... but i have been running a lot more as well as doing more push-ups.

Some facts

Height: 5"-10
Weight: 219 pound

Reason: joining the marines need to lose some weight and get better in fitness.

Does anyone have some exercise routines or different exercises then the norm?

If you want to build muscle and burn fat quickly, the best way is a non stop style workout. Do pushup's first, then move immediately to squats, then to pull ups, then to lunges. Get the blood to one place, then work the opposite place. Perfect pushup and an ab wheel are your best friends and worst enemies. They will make you wish you were dead, but at the same time get you RIPPED.

If you are going in the marines, the main things that you want to be able to do is run for like 3 miles and do 15 pull ups. If you are out of shape, then this is alot harder than you might think. I am in decent shape and I have difficulty doing 15 pull ups.

[ChromeDome]

i would say just cardio cardio cardio. the fact you have done so much and still didn't lose weight might point to your nutrition. 800 to 1200 low fat calories a day, lots of water, low carbs, little refined sugar. and a daily multivitamin. lots of cardio.

the weight will come off

[FordGT90Concept]

Use this calculator to get a ballpark figure out how many calories you need a day:
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

I would not recommend anything less than 1800 calories per day. Yes, you'll lose weight if you go far under that but not weight you want to lose (body going cannibal on itself is not good). You want to build muscle which in turn gets your metabolism going and over time, the fat will burn off and, most importantly, stay off.

800 calorie diets need to be monitored three times a week by a doctor. Very bad things can come of it.

[ChromeDome]

well 800 to 1200 isn't so drastic if you eat the proper things. i can put together an 800 to 1200 calorie diet day and you'd be shocked at how much food and nutrition i can pack in

i'm not saying its perfectly safe, but its not necessarily harmful in anyway to the average healthy person. and recent studies have shown people who eat highly restrictive low calories diets are in fact healthier and live longer then even the "average" healthy eater

concerns are at hand, however. nutrition, mostly. but that is what supplements are for. and eat lots of chicken for protein

you know how much skinless chicken breast you can eat with only 200 calories to use? a bunch

lets say 1200 to 1500 calories. that is doable

[FordGT90Concept]

Calorie = energy. You might be eating all fiber which is next to no calories and you also won't feel hungry but that doesn't mean you aren't running on empty.

It is harmful. It can lead to kidney and heart failure. That's why people undergoing an extreme diet plan needs to be monitored by a physician for organ function.

Put simply, if you want to know how many calories you should be consuming a day, see your doctor and tell him/her you want to lose weight. He/she will advise you of a proper diet.


You're right on chicken; it is one of the better meats for healthy diets because it is naturally low on dietary fat.

5.33 oz Chicken Breast ~= 200 calories. 200 calories of anything is only a large quantity if it is high in fiber (like fruits and vegetables) and liquids:
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-200-calories-look-like.htm

[Wile E]

Cooked Skinless Chicken Breast = 4.3oz for 201 cal, 37.9g protein.

Tuna is better for protein and portion amounts when counting calories. 6oz for 201 cal, but 44.2g protein. Not as protein much per oz, but less calories, so you get to eat more, and end up with more protein in the end.

[T3hPwn3r3r]

Fish of any sort will be excellent for your general health.

[3991v]

Xazax, this thread will also help me out since I need to lose a few pounds..

Lets be weight loss buddies. lol :)

[Wile E]

Xazax, this thread will also help me out since I need to lose a few pounds..

Lets be weight loss buddies. lol :)Seth, that sounds exceedingly gay. lol

[ChromeDome]

gay is OK! :mad:

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[Wile E]

gay is OK! :mad:

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>_>

It's only ok to sound gay, if you are actually gay. Not a good thing for a straight person to sound gay. lol.

[3991v]

Seth, that sounds exceedingly gay. lol
Lol :)

[Gay pride FTW!!!]

(jk)

[FordGT90Concept]

It's only ok to sound gay, if you are actually gay. Not a good thing for a straight person to sound gay. lol.
But it's so, fenneh! :D

...until pictures of sword fights come to mind...


...hides.

[SK-1]

Subscribed:o:o

[Steevo]

Low carb lean meats and exercise to lose weight.

I am trying my version of atkins as just moderate exercise was helping me gain endurance but not pulling my weight down, and I am pushing harder at the elliptical and lifting stuff while at work during break time to help keep my metabolism going.


Vitamin B complex helps, and DO eat a breakfast but not sugar coated anything. Try eggs and if you must have some bread try a whole wheat low carb.

[DIppyskoodlez]

Fat is only burned through aerobic exercise. RUN!

I can't stand walking :<

And flutter kicks will give you a 6-pack pretty quick ^^

[Steevo]

Fat is only burned through aerobic exercise. RUN!

I can't stand walking :<

And flutter kicks will give you a 6-pack pretty quick ^^

I have a six pack, it is just behind the bacon in the fridge.;)

[momentomoir]

haha thats great

I lost 30lbs since November maybe more
I quit sonic started working at gamestop stayed inside and played my 360 XD
but I also changed my eating habits eating 4 times a day
but basically eating noodles and some times adding meat and veggies to it so i can get everything i need and drinking nothing but dr pepper hahaha
I went from 130lbs (btw is overweight for my height)
to 100lbs (which is perfect weight for my height)
within 8 months just by changing eating habits

oh ya and sex is a great exercise :D

[Taz100420]

Or any ideas to gain weight lol. I eat and eat and eat but I still lose weight. Plus I smoke green and get munchies and eat all in my sight and STILL lose wight.

And lifting weights will increase weight VERY slightly as dense muscle weighs just abit more than dense fat. Cardio is they way to go and keep count of ur calories!

[Wile E]

Or any ideas to gain weight lol. I eat and eat and eat but I still lose weight. Plus I smoke green and get munchies and eat all in my sight and STILL lose wight.

And lifting weights will increase weight VERY slightly as dense muscle weighs just abit more than dense fat. Cardio is they way to go and keep count of ur calories!

If you want to gain weight, start drinking nothing but cola. (Just makes sure you brush your teeth a lot if you want to keep them. lol.)

[JC316]

haha thats great

I lost 30lbs since November maybe more
I quit sonic started working at gamestop stayed inside and played my 360 XD
but I also changed my eating habits eating 4 times a day
but basically eating noodles and some times adding meat and veggies to it so i can get everything i need and drinking nothing but dr pepper hahaha
I went from 130lbs (btw is overweight for my height)
to 100lbs (which is perfect weight for my height)
within 8 months just by changing eating habits

oh ya and sex is a great exercise :D

Jeez, 130LBS is overweight? How tall are you? I would guess around 4'10"-5'1"

Or any ideas to gain weight lol. I eat and eat and eat but I still lose weight. Plus I smoke green and get munchies and eat all in my sight and STILL lose wight.

And lifting weights will increase weight VERY slightly as dense muscle weighs just abit more than dense fat. Cardio is they way to go and keep count of ur calories!

Protein shakes, Slimfast, or Boost in addition to your meals. I always went the Boost route as they taste great and pack nearly 300 calories per bottle.

If you want to gain weight, start drinking nothing but cola. (Just makes sure you brush your teeth a lot if you want to keep them. lol.)

While my recommendation may be just as bad, this can be bad for your health. If you do go this route make sure to drink plenty of water.

[momentomoir]

actually yes im 4'10"1/2
:D

[JC316]

actually yes im 4'10"1/2
:D

Wow, you are tiny. My best friends mom is 4'11" and my mom is 5'2". At 5'11" I tower over both of them.

[momentomoir]

yes im tiny only in height and waist
thank goodness i only loose weight in my waist and not anything above or below

you could also try the wii fit but its pretty easy just to sit down and do all of the stuff.....
so scratch that you can consult an online trainer just google it it might help

[DanTheBanjoman]

you could also try the wii fit but its pretty easy just to sit down and do all of the stuff.....

It's indeed harder to jump up and down in a tent.

[DaMulta]

It's indeed harder to jump up and down in a tent.

She is only 4 feet and 11'' tall no wonder she has no problems with living in a tent!

I found one at the local store that has 3 bedrooms, and a living room for 140USD!

Not to shabby for such a large living area;)

[momentomoir]

its quite tall in the tent but no i had a wii fit before the bitc...my mom forced me to leave
but thanks for pointing another thing out to me dan your oh so helpful commenting and catching everything i say

btw where did you find that tent?

[DaMulta]

Wal-Mart

BTW I thought you were joking about the tent.....

[momentomoir]

what do you mean i live in a tent yes look on tpu's thread some of you know i had no where to go my family turned their back on me......

[DaMulta]

That fucking sucks, what threads?

At least it's summer time.....around here camp sites are cheap with showers and all.....

Best of luck to you! I don't see why they would of kicked you out to a tent, but some families are more extreme than others....

At least you have the internets....

[momentomoir]

on tpu heres the linkhttp://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=97154

[erocker]

A tent is much nicer than living in the coke-den I used to live in. Cocaine is a very good way to lose weight. I guess there's side effects though and I'm case in point of one big side effect, so I don't touch the stuff anymore.:p

[Wile E]

A tent is much nicer than living in the coke-den I used to live in. Cocaine is a very good way to lose weight. I guess there's side effects though and I'm case in point of one big side effect, so I don't touch the stuff anymore.:p

ME neither. Strangely, heroin has similar effects on your body and living arrangements. lol.

[momentomoir]

our tent is very nice I love it!

[paulieg]

It's amazing how complicated people make getting in shape. In the 6 years or so that I was a personal trainer, there was only one thing that worked long term for my clients, and those that followed this simple plan have kept themselves in shape. Ready? Sensible eating and moderate exercise that you enjoy. If you eat 4-5 reasonable meals/snacks per day, without even counting calories, along with 30 minutes of moderate intensity exercise, increasing the intensity as you can handle it, your body WILL find it's way back to lean. If it doesn't. then you may have a medical issue, such hypothyroidism.

No one should look at this process as "weight loss". WTF does that mean? People who concentrate on weight only or BMI risk losing muscle mass too. Think of it as a simple change in lifestyle. Eat a bit less, and find physical activity that will hold your interest. Simple as that. Don't over think it...

[Deusxmachina]

It's amazing how complicated people make getting in shape. In the 6 years or so that I was a personal trainer, there was only one thing that worked long term for my clients, and those that followed this simple plan have kept themselves in shape. Ready? Sensible eating and moderate exercise that you enjoy.

Pffft. Too much work. I'm not doing that!

On a serious note, P90x ftw.

[paulieg]

Pffft. Too much work. I'm not doing that!

On a serious note, P90x ftw.

This reply is exactly why there are so many fat, lazy people in this country. :(

[FordGT90Concept]

There's so many fat, lazy people in this country because very, very few of them have to chase after dinner anymore; it is served to them on a plate or platter.

[Steevo]

Down to 209Lbs and burn 1,000 calories in 35 minutes with ease. Actually my weight has stopped dropping, and my strength is coming back. Did four sets of 9 at 140Lbs the other day (strict freestanding curls) and can do 12 chinups.



Just keep going, you will lose weight.

[JC316]

It's amazing how complicated people make getting in shape. In the 6 years or so that I was a personal trainer, there was only one thing that worked long term for my clients, and those that followed this simple plan have kept themselves in shape. Ready? Sensible eating and moderate exercise that you enjoy. If you eat 4-5 reasonable meals/snacks per day, without even counting calories, along with 30 minutes of moderate intensity exercise, increasing the intensity as you can handle it, your body WILL find it's way back to lean. If it doesn't. then you may have a medical issue, such hypothyroidism.

No one should look at this process as "weight loss". WTF does that mean? People who concentrate on weight only or BMI risk losing muscle mass too. Think of it as a simple change in lifestyle. Eat a bit less, and find physical activity that will hold your interest. Simple as that. Don't over think it...

I guess that I am blessed and cursed at the same time. I have to eat around 3000+ calories of whatever the hell I want just to maintain my 165lbs. I normally stay in shape, but lately I have been having trouble finding the willpower. My bowflex is a glorified clothes rack right now.

[Frederik S]

First of all don't panic! Once you start working out you will drop fat, but you will gain muscle mass instead. So you won't weigh less but you will get a hell of a lot stronger in time. If you want to burn fat you should do something with a high intensity like cycling at a RPM that is beyond your comfort zone or run, or use the thread mill and push yourself.

It takes a long time for your body to adjust to the new work out so don't expect immediate results. Make sure you do a balanced workout not just arms and legs focus on making your own all around routine (something realistic, if you cannot handle working out for an hour straight cut it down to 45 minutes or even 30 minutes to start off with). After the first month of working out evaluate how long you have come and try to find a few areas that you want to become better at.

A healthy diet is essential as well, maybe get a book on it if you are not sure what things are good for you?

[jordybb]

I think you should go for jogging for at least 1 hour and after that go for swimming it helps in burning calories at a very fast pace

[Deusxmachina]

F jogging. 200 pounds crashing down on your knees every second onto a hard surface? No thanks.

[DaveK]

Use this calculator to get a ballpark figure out how many calories you need a day:
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

17, male, 252lbs, 6' 4", exercise 3 times a week.

Maintenance: 3124 Calories/day
Fat Loss: 2499 Calories/day
Extreme Fat Loss: 2016 Calories/day

:(

I go for a cycle a few times a week, sometimes short sometimes long, but soon I'll be doing it 3 times a week and at a fixed workout (30mins, approx 6km for now)

I highly doubt eating 2016 calories/day will make me lose 1-2lbs, what tips you guys got it's obviously not that easy, I don't eat the best food lol.

I'm a big guy, if I wasn't fat I'd still be big and heavy, but I'm looking to get to around 200lbs.

I'm looking at this fast weight loss page (http://www.freedieting.com/weight_loss_fast.htm), hell, I'd love to lose 5lbs a week. I've never tried diet pills or any program, I want to lose 52lbs and currently my BMI is 31/Obese, that fast weight loss isn't to lose a few lbs it's to lose a lot which I want to do.

Any tips?

[Deusxmachina]

No sugar.
Watch the carbs.
Eat protein.
Drink water.
P90x.

If you only drank water every day and ate only steak every day and did P90x for an hour every day, you'd have a really hard time NOT losing weight.

Yeah, yeah, all protein diet is bad for you, blah blah. Just sayin' as an example. A lot of people wonder why they can't lose weight but never seem to notice the donuts or Doritos or Mountain Dew or whatever other crap they eat, which if they'd get out of the habit they might come to the conclusion it doesn't taste very good anyway.

And P90x an hour a day can be pretty hardcore. Every other day seems better for "regular" people.

Diet pills suck. Take a couple, you probably won't notice the difference. Take more, and you might get the shakes or sweat while sitting. Been there, done that, not fun.

If you're not doing some kind of resistance training, "you're doing it wrong," and you won't look how you likely want to look. Even the advanced workouts for Winsor Pilates or power yoga and the like are solid since it's using your body weight for a lot of the moves. Those may sound like girly exercises, but they ain't no joke.

The above exercises are nice, this or that exercise is nice, but if nothing else, just Do Something. Watching TV? Great. Walk or air-jumprope in place or something for 30 minutes. Oh, that was no problem? Maybe get those knees up higher or increase the pace next time.

An interesting thing about diet and exercise is you pretty much get out of it exactly what you put in.

[momentomoir]

you still need sugar

[Deusxmachina]

Eat an apple.

[T3hPwn3r3r]

1500 calories for extreme fat loss :(

[Wile E]

Screw p90x. It's not worth paying money for. Everything it does for you can be had for free, or just the cost of your exercise equipment.

And sugar itself doesn't harm you. As long as you keep under your target caloric intake, and get your daily dose of nutrients, it doesn't really matter what you eat. (As with anything in life, moderation is key.)

[DaveK]

You think if I just eat 2016 Calories/day, eat less junk food and cycle 30mins 5 times a week I'll lose 1-2lbs a week?

[Wile E]

You think if I just eat 2016 Calories/day, eat less junk food and cycle 30mins 5 times a week I'll lose 1-2lbs a week?

It's worth a shot. You can always adjust things further down the road, be it add more exercise, or reducing calories if need be.

[Ozzmanfloyd120]

I always thought that Cardio was the best way to drop pounds? In HS I joined track and I dropped from 275 to 180, granted I still wasn't thin by any means, but I was in far better shape than any other time in my life.

[FordGT90Concept]

Resistance training increases muscle mass which increases metabolism. Increasing your metabolism means burning calories just by being alive. Cardio exercises (walking, running, jogging), while they last, burn a lot of calories but the only muscle it really builds is the heart. You need both. Cardio burns fat fast for a short period of time and resistance training burns fat slow but all the time. I'd argue that cardio is more important but it really depends on your fitness goals.


And yeah, stay far away from drugs and weight-loss diet plans on TV. Whenever they say "weight loss," they usually mean about 33% water, 33% fat, and 33% muscle. Yeah, you might lose 100 pounds pretty quick but the moment you quit, you'll gain 150. Why? The body thinks it just survived a famine and stockpiles all that you eat as fat. You also didn't get any of that muscle back so your ability to lose that, now 100+ lbs of fat is greatly diminished. Crash diets are horrible for your health.

The drugs are almost all stimulants--think purified caffeine. Yes, you'll lose weight but you could also die from it (those drugs are murder on the heart).

[DaveK]

Guess I'll try the calories thing, but on one of the days it says to consume about 2,400 calories, I'm assuming it's one of those tricks so the gets confused or something. I can't remember if I read something to do with tricking the body when I was weight training last year, something like tricking the body to increase muscle growth or something.

[Steevo]

Screw p90x. It's not worth paying money for. Everything it does for you can be had for free, or just the cost of your exercise equipment.

And sugar itself doesn't harm you. As long as you keep under your target caloric intake, and get your daily dose of nutrients, it doesn't really matter what you eat. (As with anything in life, moderation is key.)

Not exactly true, the type of calories has a large effect on your body weight, for example eating only sweets and fats is horrible for you, eating some fats, and protien, with complex carbs in moderation will cause the largest loss.


Not eating is also bad. It stops your body from burning excess calories and puts you in a emergency state where your body tries to conserve calories. Eat, and eat filling foods with fewer calories, drink lots of water, and cut out the carbs for awhile to get your body used to burning fats.

[Deusxmachina]

Screw p90x. It's not worth paying money for. Everything it does for you can be had for free, or just the cost of your exercise equipment.

And sugar itself doesn't harm you. As long as you keep under your target caloric intake, and get your daily dose of nutrients, it doesn't really matter what you eat. (As with anything in life, moderation is key.)

Workout DVDs are worth paying money for if they help get you off the couch. Same with gym memberships or personal trainers. Some people think they are worth the money, some don't. I think DVDs *can* be great, but there are only so many I've seen that are actually good and kick your ass enough to be worth the bother.

Motivation is free, but sometimes paying for it brings more of it. Other people might get enough motivation on their own, but I'll say this: there is no way I'd work out Hard five days a week for an hour a day without something like P90x. It just wouldn't happen. I might do a so-so hour a day, but not pushing hard like the DVDs.

And now I'm going to look around the net for a 2000-calorie-a-day, all-sugar diet plan. Should be tons of them.

[Wile E]

Not exactly true, the type of calories has a large effect on your body weight, for example eating only sweets and fats is horrible for you, eating some fats, and protien, with complex carbs in moderation will cause the largest loss.


Not eating is also bad. It stops your body from burning excess calories and puts you in a emergency state where your body tries to conserve calories. Eat, and eat filling foods with fewer calories, drink lots of water, and cut out the carbs for awhile to get your body used to burning fats.

Workout DVDs are worth paying money for if they help get you off the couch. Same with gym memberships or personal trainers. Some people think they are worth the money, some don't. I think DVDs *can* be great, but there are only so many I've seen that are actually good and kick your ass enough to be worth the bother.

Motivation is free, but sometimes paying for it brings more of it. Other people might get enough motivation on their own, but I'll say this: there is no way I'd work out Hard five days a week for an hour a day without something like P90x. It just wouldn't happen. I might do a so-so hour a day, but not pushing hard like the DVDs.

And now I'm going to look around the net for a 2000-calorie-a-day, all-sugar diet plan. Should be tons of them.
Thus the "moderation is key" statement. ;)

[JC316]

you still need sugar
No, you don't. Your body converts foods into glucose and burns it. Sucrose is sugar. Sugar spikes the blood sugar, which causes insulin spikes, which in turn stores fat and causes one hell of a crash. Eliminate sugar and the insulin stabilizes, which allows your body to burn fat stores for energy.


And sugar itself doesn't harm you. As long as you keep under your target caloric intake, and get your daily dose of nutrients, it doesn't really matter what you eat. (As with anything in life, moderation is key.)

See above. If you are trying to lose weight, then the best way is to reduce sugar intake by at least 75%, 100% is best. My mom just dropped 30lbs in 2 months by completely eliminating sugar. It's hard to do, but it is possible.

Other news, I found my mojo! AC/DC pumping through a 1000W audio system tends to pump you up. I was shocked to see that my strength was normal and my endurance is WAY up. Amazing what having fun in the pool can do to endurance.

[Wile E]

Eating sucrose doesn't cause insulin spikes any worse than any other carb.

And what part of moderation do people not understand? My point is that sugar in small amounts does not harm you. No, you shouldn't drink nothing but Coke, and eat nothing but caramel candies all while taking vitamins to compensate, but throwing a teaspoon of sugar into your tea isn't going to kill you either.

[FordGT90Concept]

It could lead to diabetes. That is, your body gets so used to seeing insulin, it no longer responds to it. Your body loses its ability to handle insulin which means your body no longer absorb enough glucose from the blood.

[Deusxmachina]

When I say, "No Sugar," I say that knowing pretty much no "regular" person can/will actually do that. They'll usually get at least some from somewhere in some form or other. Eating nothing but steak or similar every day isn't as easy as it sounds. Even pro bodybuilders tend to say diet is like 70% of it and that exercise is the easy part.

Sugar is evil. Remember that, stop walking down the Doritos and soda and bakery aisles at the grocery store, and you'll be on your way.

[JC316]

Eating sucrose doesn't cause insulin spikes any worse than any other carb.

And what part of moderation do people not understand? My point is that sugar in small amounts does not harm you. No, you shouldn't drink nothing but Coke, and eat nothing but caramel candies all while taking vitamins to compensate, but throwing a teaspoon of sugar into your tea isn't going to kill you either.

Sugar is extremely high on the glycemic index. 1tbs of it = 68 on the GI. If you can't take no sweets, try Agave Nectar which is twice as sweet as sugar, but only 11 on the GI.

Now, sugar is equal on the GI to a slice of bread, or some rice, but you consume WAY more sugar than bread or rice, so your insulin is in a constant state of flux.

Consider that a single coke has has roughly 8tbs of sugar in it, plus all the carbs, plus the amount of sugar that's in EVERY single processed food, yeah, it's bad. If you eliminate most of the sugar intake, then you are going to be much better off.

[Steevo]

complex carbs are the best if you must have a few, like a carrot, or a serving of apple.

[Wile E]

It could lead to diabetes. That is, your body gets so used to seeing insulin, it no longer responds to it. Your body loses its ability to handle insulin which means your body no longer absorb enough glucose from the blood.

Except that the doctors disagree with you.

I'm hypoglycemic. I've been going to the endocrinologist for years, according to him, eating sugar does not cause diabetes, period.

Sugar is extremely high on the glycemic index. 1tbs of it = 68 on the GI. If you can't take no sweets, try Agave Nectar which is twice as sweet as sugar, but only 11 on the GI.

Now, sugar is equal on the GI to a slice of bread, or some rice, but you consume WAY more sugar than bread or rice, so your insulin is in a constant state of flux.

Consider that a single coke has has roughly 8tbs of sugar in it, plus all the carbs, plus the amount of sugar that's in EVERY single processed food, yeah, it's bad. If you eliminate most of the sugar intake, then you are going to be much better off.

Eating sugar also does not put your insulin in a "constant state of flux". All carbs spike your sugar quickly, not just refined sugars. But this is not necessarily bad for you. Taken in extremes, yes, it is terrible for you, as is anything taken to extremes, but taken IN MODERATION DOES NOT HARM YOU. There are many situations where the intake of these sugars are beneficial, especially to someone such as myself. I always keep a stash of buttescotches in my pocket, just in case my sugar dips. Sure, you should not eat a lot of refined sugars, but a little does not, and will not ever, hurt you.

If, for instance, you only drank that bottle of Coke for your sugar intake for the day, that isn't too awful bad (tho a bit borderline, and don't do it every day), from the sugar standpoint (tho there are other reasons to avoid soda), but any more than that, and we are going beyond the scope of IN MODERATION.

[FordGT90Concept]

Except that the doctors disagree with you.

I'm hypoglycemic. I've been going to the endocrinologist for years, according to him, eating sugar does not cause diabetes, period.
It isn't know what causes type 2 diabetes (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/type-2-diabetes/DS00585/DSECTION=causes). Consuming too much sugar certainly doesn't help.


Even pure oxygen can kill you if the conditions are right. Water too.

[Wile E]

It isn't know what causes type 2 diabetes (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/type-2-diabetes/DS00585/DSECTION=causes). Consuming too much sugar certainly doesn't help.


Even pure oxygen can kill you if the conditions are right. Water too.

*sigh* For the last time: IN MODERATION.

I've said it how many times now? How long before someone finally gets it?

And consuming too much sugar still doesn't cause diabetes. There have been numerous studies on it. It does cause numerous other problems, but no direct link to diabetes has ever been found.

[Deusxmachina]

If, for instance, you only drank that bottle of Coke for your sugar intake for the day, that isn't too awful bad (tho a bit borderline, and don't do it every day), from the sugar standpoint (tho there are other reasons to avoid soda), but any more than that, and we are going beyond the scope of IN MODERATION.

If one bottle of Coke a day is over the borderline and more sugar than you should have per day, I'd opine that "in moderation" for a lot/most/many people isn't even close to what they would think is "in moderation." (unless one bottle = 2 liter.) I certainly didn't think you meant such a small amount of sugar when saying "in moderation."

[FordGT90Concept]

http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/sugar.htm

The health dangers which ingesting sugar on an habitual basis creates are certain. Simple sugars have been observed to aggravate asthma, move mood swings, provoke personality changes, muster mental illness, nourish nervous disorders, deliver diabetes, hurry heart disease, grow gallstones, hasten hypertension, and add arthritis.

http://www.womenfitness.net/deit_sugar.htm

Studies have indicated that people consume 500-1000 calories daily in the form of soft drinks, which is one of the cause for alarming increase in obesity. Super sized ice-creams, soda shakes, coke carry excess sugar. A small portion of your favorite sweet treat, consumed with a meal, is okay on occasion. Anything in excess can lead to sugar addiction, obesity and, for some individuals, adult-onset diabetes. Sweetened products may not list sugar, or sucrose on the label because they contain other forms of sugar. Fructose and dextrose, for example, or lactose.

http://www.vegetarian-nutrition.info/updates/sweet_tooth.php

A high sugar diet can stimulate an increase in insulin release, which stimulates fat and cholesterol synthesis. Too many calories from sugar-rich foods can lead to obesity. Obese individuals are at greater risk of diabetes, cancer, and cardiovascular disease. The efficiency with which white blood cells function to defend the body against bacterial attack may also be impaired by sugar-rich diets.
The list goes on and on. We don't know enough about diabetes to definitely say excess consumption of sugar doesn't cause it. We know that a diet high sugar can lead to obesity and obesity can lead to diabetes.

Bottomline: Don't try to consume it. You get more than enough eating modern prepared foods. The only scenario where it is okay to add some is if the food is made of fresh foods (e.g. fresh cut strawberries). Even there, don't over do it.

[Deusxmachina]

blah blah blah, FordGT90Concept. :p

All people need to know about sugar is what Jack Lalanne said 50 years ago:

"Sugar is Evil."

And if anyone wants to call Jack out, I bet his fitness resume is a lot better than theirs.

I will now, through the power of Jack Lalanne, hope I help put at least one person who ever reads this onto the right track.

"Do this for five days, and you will be thanking me for the rest of your life."

LJVEPB_l8FU

[Wile E]

The list goes on and on. We don't know enough about diabetes to definitely say excess consumption of sugar doesn't cause it. We know that a diet high sugar can lead to obesity and obesity can lead to diabetes.

Bottomline: Don't try to consume it. You get more than enough eating modern prepared foods. The only scenario where it is okay to add some is if the food is made of fresh foods (e.g. fresh cut strawberries). Even there, don't over do it.Which still is not sugar causing diabetes. There are more studies that say there is not a direct link, than there are they say there is a direct link. If there is a link, it is indirect.

And again, I already said excess sugar is bad, just that it doesn't cause diabetes, and doesn't spike insulin any worse than any other carb. (And by sugar, I'm referring specifically to refined sugars, as I was under the impression that's the scope of this debate.)

[Kurosagi]

well i would cut out all your doughnouts,biscuits,crisp etc etc,less junk food the better.
drink lots and lots of water

[pepsi71ocean]

took me about 40 mins to read the whole thread, and im surprised it hit 4 pages.

Ive started exercising, im trying to dig up a bicycle and maybe i should start biking.

[Kurosagi]

any form of exercising working on your leg and arm will do,just make sure you cut out your junk food and late night eating,that way you be working out better and you will make a lot of progress

[rojidoji]

so you can pew pew and get fit at the same time