Your views on torrenting TV shows

[Crazy Pyro]

Mine are as follows:
If it aint coming to the UK for ages (as in people in the states'll have finished the season before it starts for me) it'll get downloaded.
If it's on at bizarre times in the UK, It'll get recorded.
If it aint coming to the UK it gets downloaded (although if I could get hulu to work then I'll be sorted).
What are your views on torrenting them?

[DanTheBanjoman]

It's legal here. So I can freely share the fact that I follow up to 20-30 series a week depending on the time of year.

Just don watching House, poor Kutner :(

Now waiting a min for my beamer to warm up and watching heroes+24.

[Crazy Pyro]

Just remembered I wanted to watch chuck but of course my ISP says torrenting takes too much bandwidth and kills it.

[LittleLizard]

i dont understand this thread, is about what shows we download thru bittorrent¿?

[Crazy Pyro]

It's about your views on it.
Hulu just says it's not available in the UK and doesn't work

[W1zzard]

if a friend in the us records a series on vhs tape and overnights it to you, isnt that legal ?

[DanTheBanjoman]

if a friend in the us records a series on vhs tape and overnights it to you, isnt that legal ?

It's against all laws I believe in. Shipping would be expensive, quality would be low. Use DVD's or USB sticks instead.

[Crazy Pyro]

Quite possibly yes but I don't have any mates in the US who I'd ask to do that+ postage would be incredibly expensive over time.
What really takes the biscuit is that they were developing a Hulu type thing in the UK but it got dropped :nutkick:

[BiNGE]

I am a huge fan of the unrestricted use of Torrents as long as people contribute to the economy. I wouldn't have bought any video games/music/TV series these past years if it hadn't been for torrents.

[DonInKansas]

Not legal; unauthorized redistribution or something like that.

[BiNGE]

Not legal; unauthorized redistribution or something like that.

+1 it sucks in the states for this sort of thing.

[McFlips]

In general I'm fairly against pirating. But I can't say I've never done it. It did allow me and my roommates to relive Dragon Ball Z lol

[Crazy Pyro]

Anything wrong with it if you'd be able to get it in a month and a half's time on a service you're paying for and will still be paying for? To me no so I'm currently downloading the first 4 episodes of chuck.

[DrPepper]

I could record it on the downstairs television when it comes on or I can watch it now and save myself the bother of waiting. I don't even watch television much anyway so might as well download it.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

i dont have a tv now, i torrent my shows

[A Cheese Danish]

I usually watch them, then once the season is over then I usually go and get it.
Just so I can rewatch them and watch ones I've missed.

[Mussels]

I beleive its legal here in aus, so long as you dotn sell it or display it in public. They havent outlawed VHS recorders, you can record digital streams to PVR's... hell, even TiVo has arrived here.


I torrent a lot of shows - but most of them dont air here, or dont air in HD (1080i signals suuuuuck on a 720p screen)

The shows i like i go and buy later on, just like if i watched em on TV. its merely that a PC is my preferred playback medium.

[MRCL]

Legal Here. And I torrent them, because I cant stand the German synchronisations. It tears apart everything. Latest example: Dead like me. I love that show! In English. When I heard the German version I puked. Sure they eventually come on DVDs with multulanguage to the store, but "underground" TV shows; not a chance.

[WhiteLotus]

It's legal here. So I can freely share the fact that I follow up to 20-30 series a week depending on the time of year.

Just don watching House, poor Kutner :(

Now waiting a min for my beamer to warm up and watching heroes+24.

He was written out because he joined the Obama administration.

[DaMulta]

http://www.bitlet.org/

dont download them lol just watch them

[erocker]

I use Hulu.com. I'm not a big television watcher anyways.

[twilyth]

Just remembered I wanted to watch chuck but of course my ISP says torrenting takes too much bandwidth and kills it.

Try usenet - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

I can't believe no one has mentioned it yet. If you subscribe to a premium service like Giganews, they hold the binaries for almost a year.

An added benefit is that virtually all the posts have no commercials - they're either edited or are from DVD rips.

I subscribe to Netflix but normally use it only for stuff I can't get online.

Sometimes a single episode might be missing from a running series - like The Bill - but people seem to be pretty thorough.

So no, no problem here. I figure it's not any worse than recording something and blowing through the commercials at like 100x.

[Ahhzz]

I download the 3 or 4 shows I watch, and purchase the good shows as available. Just now purchasing Bones seasons 2 and 3, but watched them long ago.

[dr emulator (madmax)]

personaly i don't think it should matter if you do use a torrent, but doing that is
very illegal over here http://www.phpbbserver.com/mameuifx/images/smiles/nonono.gifso i've never done it .although we do have some drm tv shows you can download obviously with time limits /watch limits so it's still http://tpucdn.com/forums/images/smilies/cry.gifoh well nothings perfect;)

[FreedomEclipse]

well, Being Europe - we brits are usually the first to complain about shit being over priced compared to other Non Eu countries.

We've all seen it. even Sony admitted that it charged Europeans upto 30% more for a PS2/3 a while back.

Not to mention the fact that we already pay 15.5% (or 17.5%) EXTRA that goes to goverment who then syphons it all off & spends it on lavish luxury items, trips abroard & housing scandals when people are out in the 'real world' losing their jobs & livelyhoods.

somebody has to draw the line, but nobody will so fuckem. I torrent whatever i want & if i really really really really do like whatever it is then i will support the product by buying the original unless its over priced.

I refuse to be ripped off just so goverment officials can spend more tax payers money on rare £3000 bottles of champaign. with the way their spending tax payers money its like they never heard of the word recession.

[FordGT90Concept]

As long as the ads are kept in the recording, I don't see a problem with it. If the ads are removed/not present, it could/should be deemed piracy.


They charge Europe more to make up for the massive taxes (e.g. VAT).

[wiak]

It's against all laws I believe in. Shipping would be expensive, quality would be low. Use DVD's or USB sticks instead.
harddrives might be a way better option, if it airs in HD somewhere, why should people wait 6 months+ to get to watch it in SD? :eek:

if the televison companys do the following
1. Setup a digital shop with global price
2. Allow high quality HD episodes without DRM
3. Allow worldwide customers
4. Release right after air
5. meybe some behind-the-scenes, and some bonus content for those that buy the whole seasons of shows

people might want to buy their shows ;)

local tv stations might even setup their own shops and give those that watch it on snail tv get a message like this "you can buy this episode in HD on tvcompany.com/store"

anyway kinda pointless to write this :D

[steelkane]

It's all greed,, we the people just want to watch movies or TV shows,, we don't really mine how or were we watch them,, but the big company's want there 100% profit & I believe it's wrong to download & sell,, but just to watch, It's there greed not mine

[Mussels]

just something that came to mind:

my housemate has all of farscape on DVD.
i watched his DVD's, for free. so did our other housemate.

dear god, wait - did i just get something for free, without paying for it? how is this different to downloading it, if i didnt pay to watch it?

[FordGT90Concept]

It is no different than downloading it. If the industry had its way, everything would be pay-per-view.

[Mussels]

they just have this silly thing that pirates hurt the industry because every pirated copy is lost sales - the pirates never would have paid, ever. so you lost nothing.

[FordGT90Concept]

Yup, they just can't come to terms with the fact that pirates are not customers unless they want to be and the only way a pirate will become a customer is if the product is that, freakin', good.

[rojidoji]

I think it should be legal as long as no one makes a profit from distributing it via torrent (Freedom of Information FTW)

[dr emulator (madmax)]

just something that came to mind:

my housemate has all of farscape on DVD.
i watched his DVD's, for free. so did our other housemate.

dear god, wait - did i just get something for free, without paying for it? how is this different to downloading it, if i didnt pay to watch it?

well as far as i know in my country he has commited a criminal offence by you watching it (although i'm not sure about the laws in your state )
hm downloading it well we all know it's wrong and where i live they are planning on cutting people off for doing it,
although the concept of watching something again that was originaly on tv shouldn't be an offence i think that's just ridiculous.
although from a law officers point of view i can see why they want to stop file sharing, because if they do pedophiles will be easier to track and bring to justice


they just have this silly thing that pirates hurt the industry because every pirated copy is lost sales - the pirates never would have paid, ever. so you lost nothing.
i agree with you on that ,if someone wants something but doesen't want to pay the exorbitant prices that are charged for these (products) shall we say, they won't and there's allways someone who has these things at a hell of a lot cheaper than the original so it can't hurt sales much, besides we all no the discs don't last five minuets, mind you neither do the originals:eek:

[Mussels]

the sad part is, most of the games me and my friends own legit, we pirated first at LAN's and then bought later.

L4D, CoD 1, 2, 4 and 5 (yes, all of them), HAWX, DOW II, lost planet, Trine, Gmod - the list goes on.

none of them i was willing to spend money on without trying, and without decent demos (or demos released long after launch) i ended up pirating them, liking them and buying them.

Piracy is actually excellent word of mouth advertising, and gets your product advertised to more people - for every pirate who downloads it, he has two friends who saw him playing it but lack the skill/knowledge to download and crack it, so they go and buy it legit.

Piracy can LEAD to sales - this is no different with TV shows. Downloads are poor quality or missing features (applies to games and TV shows) so you like it, and you buy it to get the 'better' product.

bad products where the pirate copy is better than the original (720P downloads when they only sell it in DVD, games where the crack solves issues, etc) would never sell, and these are the ones that get the most attention (think halo 2 not working on vista without a crack)

[3991v]

Pirating is just a way to sample something. If someone likes it, they'll probably buy it. Not a problem IMO since demos usually aren't "enough" to sell a game, or 1 and a half minutes isn't "enough" to sell a 2 hour movie.

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