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twilyth
06-24-2009, 05:05 AM
You can't make this shit up. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090624/ts_afp/spainarchaeology)
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Homo-heidelbergensis/photo//090624/photos_ts_wl_afp/4ddb73399c3304f0f3af7be5318ec538//s:/afp/20090624/ts_afp/spainarchaeology;_ylt=AuuRoqw2gL8JJWxMO0csUviGOrgF ;_ylu=X3oDMTE5YW1tMDZiBHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bl9yX3RvcF9w aG90bwRzbGsDdGhlZmlyc3RldXJv


ATAPUERCA, Spain (AFP) – The remains of the "first Europeans" discovered at an archaeological site in northern Spain have revealed that these prehistoric men were cannibals who particularly liked the flesh of children.

"We know that they practiced cannibalism," said Jose Maria Bermudez de Castro, one of the co-directors of the Atapuerca project, a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

A study of the remains revealed that they turned to cannibalism to feed themselves and not as part of a ritual, that they ate their rivals after killing them, mostly children and adolescents.

"It is the first well-documented case of cannibalism in the history of humanity, which does not mean that it is the oldest," he said.

The remains discovered in the caves "appeared scattered, broken, fragmented, mixed with other animals such as horses, deer, rhinoceroses, all kinds of animals caught in hunting" and eaten by humans, he said.

"This gives us an idea of cannibalism as a type gastronomy, and not as a ritual."

The Atapuerca caves were first discovered in the late 19th century, when a tunnel was blasted through the mountain for a railway line.

"But at the time in Spain, there was not enough scientific knowledge to begin research," said the other co-director, Eudald Carbonell.

The first excavations did not take place until 1978, then "in 1984, we found 150 human remains.

In 1992, they found a complete intact skeleton, and two years later, they discovered remains dating back more than 800,000 years.

Those remains probably correspond to the first humans who reached Europe, known as Homo antecessor, after the Latin word for pioneer or explorer.

Homo antecessor, who lived before Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens, probably came to the caves of Atapuerca after a long migration from Africa and through the Middle East, northern Italy and France.

It is a particularly good site for human settlement, at the confluence of two rivers with a comfortable climate and rich in fauna and flora, de Castro said.

They found water and food in abundance, could hunt wild boar, horses, deer, "which means that they did not practice cannibalism through a lack of food. They killed their rivals and used the meat," he said.

"We have also discovered two levels that contain cannibalised remains, which means that it was not a one-off thing, but continued through time," he said.

"Another interesting aspect ... is that most of the 11 individuals that we have identified" as victims "were children or adolescents".

"We think that there are also two young adults including a female, which indicates that they killed the base of the demographic pyramid of the group."

Atapuerca, situated on the edge of Eurasia, allowed Homo antecessor to develop in an isolated and more distinct way, with characteristics that were both archaic and modern.

In addition to hunting, they also made tools.

The area at the time was heavily forested, with oaks, chestnut trees and junipers, and abundant with bears, lynxes, panthers, foxes and hyenas.

DanTheBanjoman
06-24-2009, 09:42 AM
Mmmm childs!

WhiteLotus
06-24-2009, 11:02 AM
what's your point twilight?

sure if you look deep enough in to ANY culture there has been instances of cannibalism.

FordGT90Concept
06-24-2009, 11:23 AM
There's been many stories of several people getting stranded on a mountain, one succomes to the cold, and the others eat the corpse to survive. They wouldn't have survived if they didn't.

I think any sane human would at least seriously consider the possibility of consuming a corpse if that is the only available food.

twilyth
06-24-2009, 12:34 PM
what's your point twilight?

sure if you look deep enough in to ANY culture there has been instances of cannibalism.

I don't like Europeans - except for Brits (which does NOT include Ireland and Wales - Scotland might be ok) - so I thought it was funny.

I'm kidding. I've only actually been to Europe once and most of my time was spent in and around Exeter.

It reminded me of a joke an old gf told me - she was russian and had some good American jokes.

A cruise liner is at sea and there is an accident. Everyone has to abandon ship. They jump into the life boats. Days go by and there is no rescue. Finally, in order to survive, they start to draw lots to see who will be sacrificed and be eaten. This goes on for several days.

Finally, the American in the boat draws the short straw. But before they can kill him, he says 'if you look under the first bench there are a couple boxes of canned food.

They all look at him speechless and in disbelief. Finally one person is able to ask 'Why did you let us kill and eat our shipmates if you knew there was food on the boat?'

The American screwed up his face and with obvious disgust said 'I really hate canned food.'

btarunr
06-24-2009, 12:41 PM
That said, the Europe of then was awesome. It didn't have the gay EU to fine them with eleventy billion Euros each time someone farts in public.

twilyth
06-24-2009, 12:44 PM
That said, the Europe of then was awesome. It didn't have the gay EU to fine them with eleventy billion Euros each time someone farts in public.

I'm pretty sure that's a capital offense. They say they don't have capital punishment, but it's a lie. :D

Triprift
06-24-2009, 12:49 PM
If it wasnt for Britain there woudnt be an Oz after giving us there finest convicts and now we get heaps of Europeans and ppl from all over the world. So cheers love living in one the most multi cultural countries on earth.

WhiteLotus
06-24-2009, 02:30 PM
I'm kidding. I've only actually been to Europe once and most of my time was spent in and around Exeter.


as in Exeter, in England?

twilyth
06-24-2009, 02:38 PM
as in Exeter, in England?

Yup - summer school. I was supposedly learning about the European economic community, but for most of the people there it was a tax-deductible vacation.

WhiteLotus
06-24-2009, 11:42 PM
Yup - summer school. I was supposedly learning about the European economic community, but for most of the people there it was a tax-deductible vacation.

I live very close to Exeter.

I have a book on the story of man, and i swear there was a passage in it about early Americans also resorting to cannibalism. I will hunt it down, was interesting to read.

Triprift
06-25-2009, 12:49 AM
Back then surely canibalism would of been common place. They do say the first things humans thinks when they meet is can i shag em and can i eat them in a blink of eye lol.

erocker
06-25-2009, 12:56 AM
Tastes like chicken! :D