Need advice, need to lose 100lbs fast, and i mean fast.

[pepsi71ocean]

OK i was under the belif that i was still 265lbs, and that i was fit.

Well today i found out just how off i was, while doing the wii fit my g/f made me try it, LOL

i found out that i tip the scales at a solid 304, which scared the shit out of me. I dodn't notice any weight gain visibilly at all, and then i went back to the HS and tried to run the mile, forget it.....

Mile time was a good 20 mins, (in HS i had a 10 mins mile). On top of that i can barely do any push ups anymore, and im lost as to where to go with this one.


I feel crappy because ive gotten out of shape so badly, i used to be in top shape back in the day (3 years ago), i was 235'slbs and i could dead lift my body weight and some, etic.


so guys i am not as active as i used to be, and i am looking for a way to excersise to get the pounds off, because im starting to feel that pre-diabetic syndrome set in. And i really don't like the feel of it.

[FordGT90Concept]

I'd recommend doing the Wii Fit jog (put the controller in your pocket and bounce :D). If that's not for you, perhaps an exercise bike. Do as much of either as you can handle and do them at least every other day. Over time, it should bring you weight down to at least 250.

Once you feel like you're up to it, do more strength training exercises.


Note: the Wii Balance Board has a limit of 300 lbs. You don't use the Balance Board for jogging and jogging is great at burning fat.

Don't lose the weight fast: bad for you. Slow and steady wins the race.

[JC316]

Reduce sugar intake by 75%, calculate exactly how many calories you have and reduce them where you can. Bicycling and swimming are going to be good for you.

[WhiteLotus]

Swim. It is the easiest method and doesn't put much strain on your body, but is great cardio work. Jogging can cause all kinds of problem in your knees seeing as you'll have 300 odd lbs pushing down on them when you do. Either swim, or skip. No not the fancy skip you see little children do as they go down the street, the one with a skipping rope. This causes you to lift off and come down on both knees which is less pressure on them.

Cut down the food intake, but maintain the water supply and protein. Burning off the extra fat will cuase many toxins to be releases which need to get excreted asap.

[btarunr]

Starving is never my idea of weight loss. By drastically reducing your food intake, you end up with hypoglycemia (lack of food causing dizziness, lack of concentration, nausea, etc).

I'd say eat like a hog, but try to substitute something with something else, carbohydrates with proteins. Maintain a low but essential sugar intake, but substitute potatoes, rice (vermicelli, pasta, noodles, etc,), with whole-wheat bread, red-meat, fish, etc.

After substituting your foods, take up aerobic exercise. Do not go to a gym just as yet, don't lift weights. Start off with long walks in early mornings, in four weeks graduate to jogging/cycling, and a month later to running. By 6 weeks you'll feel so much better. Now you can join a gym for anaerobic exercises and let your body quickly dissolve fat for muscle.

[El Fiendo]

No not the fancy skip you see little children do as they go down the street, the one with a skipping rope. .



I disagree whole heartedly. I've tried both methods and my time skipping around 'fancy like' in the downtown of the city was much more productive than skipping when standing still. Remember, you can still do your errands just skip to them.

Also, I got like 50 numbers from other men, I assume to either learn my technique or perhaps improve it with advice of their own. People are so nice.

[FordGT90Concept]

Also, I got like 50 numbers from other men, I assume to either learn my technique or perhaps improve it with advice of their own. People are so nice.
Sure they didn't want to date you? :eek:

[El Fiendo]

I ... uh...

Oh god.

[Ozzmanfloyd120]

Pepsi, how old are you? I'm under the impression you're close to my age (23). After two years of being dormant and not exercising (I used to run up to three miles daily) and began to get out and active again.
The first day is hell, I couldn't even run a mile without stopping. I felt like I was going to die, but a shocking thing happened on the second day; I ran a mile sub 8 min and I had energy to spare, and that's been the case ever since.
I say walk a mile for a few days to get your body used to moving again, then walk a lap followed by running a mile, then a cooldown lap. And stretching is very important.
Also, you'll want to cut all pop and soda out of your diet, especially orange pop(that's teh most sweetened) and substitute it with plenty of water and juice.

Edit:
Also it's not safe to lose more than two pounds a week, just in case you were looking to lose weight faster.
Another thing is that I see a product called "P90x" mentioned a lot in these threads. I'm not exactly sure whether it's diet pills or a workout regemine, but I don't believe in that stuff, especially since I was able to drop 95lbs by only getting active.

[Deusxmachina]

Isn't there another current thread very similar to this?

Low sugar.
Watch the carbs.
Drink some water.
Eat some protein.
Do some kind of exercising.

If you can do the first four, you can do less of the last one. I don't know what you eat now, but if part of it consists of donuts or cookies or Doritos or Mt. Dew or the like, get rid of that crap, and you'll feel better quickly.

Of course, "do what you can." It's pretty hard for a lot of people to cut out all sugar, but if they'd simply stop walking down the cookie and bakery aisles at the grocery store, they'd be helping themselves quite a bit. Cutting out obvious sugar + drinking more water is a big deal just by themselves for most people.

If you feel the need to eat at Burger King or wherever, order a Whopper with no mayo or something. Even just avoiding the mayo is a big deal. And no fries. I mean, come on, you know they're 80% grease and 20% salt, and the longer you stop eating that junk, the more you realize how disgusting it is. Eat right, and the rest kind of starts taking care of itself.

Since you said, "Fast," here's the quick and dirty for you:

No carbs.
No sugar.
Drink water.
Basically eat as much lean meat/steak/fish as you want. (Protein.)

Do something like P90x or similar. In other words, some pretty intense stuff. Ease into it, or you might be on the floor gasping for air 5-10 minutes in or hurt yourself, though. Waking up in the middle of the night with leg cramps from overdoing it isn't fun.

If you can eat that way and exercise intensely for 45-60 minutes five days a week, I pretty much GUARANTEE you will lose weight fast. And within a month or three, you may start feeling like Superman. No joke.

I'm starting to dig yoga more. It's stretching and resistance training at the same time. It's not trying to squat 400 pounds or something, but it can be intense overall if you don't half-ass it. If your muscles start shaking while holding a pose, you know it's working. ;) Pilates is similar. That kind of stuff can be easy to cheat at compared to weights, but in the end it's just cheating yourself.

Starving yourself sucks, btw. Been there, done that, learned from it.

[pepsi71ocean]

thanks for all the replies, and i read through the other thread(i think i might have commented in it as well), but it didn't seem to jive with the massive weight loss that im dealing with.

im 20, i'll be 21 in December, and outside excessive is hard come October.

Im 6 foot 2 inches, and my brother who is 3 years younger just past me in the height department and he makes it known.

The reason i said fast is because im snoring, my sleep is getting rough, and well im just running out of energy anymore, i mean even my job (mostly computer related) causes me to tire out.

I used to have alot of muscle and i was active, football and wrestling and i did work out, i was in good shape, but i guess it was all red muscle because its all gone now.


Is cereal a good alternative to the no carb's, sugars thing. I already drink water, but im not sure what is preventing me from loosing weight, unless its because im still taking in more then i burn.

How do i know what is "low" in sugar or carbs? can anyone help dissect the basics on the nutrition part, i know it says %DV but idk what that means.

[btarunr]

%dv is daily value percentage. If one serving of a certain food item has say a %dv for carbohydrates at 33%, it is able to give you a third of your daily carbohydrates requirement. When giving out this data, you have to mention the serving size, and whose requirement you're using. Most food items' nutrition facts table calculate %DV for a healthy adult working-class male.

[Deusxmachina]

I used to have alot of muscle and i was active, football and wrestling and i did work out, i was in good shape, but i guess it was all red muscle because its all gone now.


Well, unused muscle atrophies. Use it or lose it!

Check the ingredients on that cereal box, and you should be able to tell whether it's good for you or not. Wheaties? Maybe. Count Chocula? Probably not.

I say, "No sugar, no carbs," etc, but I'd be surprised if most people could make it more than two or so weeks doing that. Eating only steak every day is harder than it sounds. It's more just a "put down the cookies and potato chips" kind of thing. When I do eat "hardcore" of only water and lean meat for awhile, (and fruits and veggies if I want, of course), I'm tellin' ya... Rawr!

A nice, cheap, and pre-sized "meal" is canned tuna. Lots of protein, quick to eat, every can is the same size with the same calories and all that, no clean-up. May not be the best tasting thing there is, but the water kind is pretty much pure protein. Combining one water can with one oil can kind of splits the difference between taste and fat. Could drink protein shakes, too.

Instead of counting calories and all that, you could try the just eating when you're actually hungry method. You try and keep your body on the edge of that "I'm getting kind of hungry" feeling. First heard that one from Hulk Hogan, and he obviously does something right. Whatever works for ya.

If you're looking for "low in carbs," you have to be careful with most stuff because sometimes you'll think it's fine but then read the label and your eyes pop out. If you look at lean, and not so lean, meat, you'll generally see zero carbs. Steak, chicken, fish, bacon, hot dogs.... That's not a recommendation to eat lots of bacon and hot dogs.

Just tossing stuff out at you, and maybe there'll be a useful tidbit somewhere in it.

[FordGT90Concept]

How much did you weigh when you graduated high school? If you gained like 100 lbs in two years, you really need to see a doctor. You could have hypothyroidism, depression, or something else that can lead to rapid weight gain.

[Deusxmachina]

Or he could just have sit-on-your-butt-itis.

[pepsi71ocean]

haha sit-on-your-butt-itis, sadly its not that easy.

Back in 2007 when i graduated i was a heavy 245ish, but i was still muscle bound, as for BMI i would say 18-20%.

I did alot of construction work after i got out of, brickwork, construction, mechanics etic. but i never lost weight, it seemed to go up, and hovered around 260-275. But then again i was able to curl about 50lbs easily.

I started working with my brain more then my back and now i can curl only 25's reliability ie 8-12 reps. but i am still active, i don't lift 100lbs core blocks, or mover 2x12's anymore, now a days its more of cutting grass, changing oil, and build waterfalls and rock gardens. but the weight doesn't seem to come off.

I drink alot of water, rarely do i drink soda anymore, i admit i might eat a little more then usual.



Would a can of tunafish mixed with a little mayo and onion be ok?

[FordGT90Concept]

Mayo is dangerous.

Judging but what you are saying, I'd see a doctor. Unless you are eating the equivlent of a child everyday, you should have lost at least some weight. Gaining 25 lbs a year isn't extreme but considering you gained weight in a period when you should have been losing it, I'd say something is wrong especially considering your age.

[Deusxmachina]

Would a can of tunafish mixed with a little mayo and onion be ok?

Look at the nutrition label on mayo, and look at the mayo itself, and you tell me. Maybe the diet kind is edible, but I bet you already know, overall, that mayo is probably not the healthiest thing in the world. That's why I said if water tuna is too, um, healthy, (tastes bad :p), maybe mix one water can with one oil can, after draining the oil. It's oily, more fatty tuna now, but it's not carbs and mayo. Same thing with getting a real hamburger from a burger joint -- that's not bad, just leave the mayo off.

If you just use a small! bit of mayo to tone down the tuna dryness, hey, knock yourself out, I guess. People just tend to overdo things. A friend of mine wanted to lose weight "right now!" Told him the same stuff we've been talking about here. So then what he does is dump four cans of oil tuna in a bowl and mixes it with half as much mayo. It even looked a bit disgusting. I told him he was missing the point of eating the tuna.

He also didn't want to "workout" but instead get exercise from doing "around the house" things. Sounded like an excuse, so I told him to come over and cut my grass with a pushmower for an "around the house" thing. Didn't happen; and he used a rider for his lawn. I suppose no one would be shocked to hear he never lost the weight.

Now, consider if, instead of eating mayo'd tuna like that, (excessive), or something similar, you could instead eat, oh, say, 25 ounces of steak. Or maybe four grilled chicken breasts or something. Or maybe a 12" sub (or two!) from Subway. (Hold the mayo! :D) Kind of helps put in perspective how crappy a lot of food is.

They had that last one on "The Biggest Loser" show. He tells the guy to go get a typical lunch he'd eat. Guy comes back from McDonald's with one, maybe two, greasy, McD-meat burger(s), fries, and a Coke. It actually didn't look like that much stuff. They add up the calories and all that. They then go to Subway and add up the calories and all that on some of the meat sandwiches with basically everything on except mayo, and he could have eaten like 24" of subs instead.

This is why I said eating steak every day is harder than it sounds. Look up how much protein and carbs and calories are in something like lean steak, and compare it to the junk people normally eat. You'd have a hard time matching the junk food calorie-wise because you'd get tired of chewing.

I mainly mentioned sit-on-your-butt-itis because you had said you are more of a desk-jockey now compared to before. Changing oil and cutting grass and the like isn't the same as working out every day for football or doing heavy construction. It's still being "active," especially if that's like 1/2+ acre of lawn with a pushmower, but I'd be surprised if it compares to lifting bricks or bags of cement all day.

Maybe you're eating ok but mainly eating too much of it. I wouldn't be surprised if you're eating the equivalent of a small child every day and not realizing it. And if you're mixing half a bag of Doritos or something in there on the weekend, or eating donuts "only" one day a week or whatever, or maybe a handfull of M&Ms here, some Oreos there, it all adds up.

[Wile E]

Meh, just suck it up and eat the tuna dry. lol.

They also have those flavored premium tuna in the foil bags. Things like lemon and pepper and such. They're pretty good.

[Steevo]

I like salads for lunch, and am still horrible about not eating breakfast (coffee doesn't count, and no foo foo stuff) Dinner is easy when the wife is dieting also.


Tuna works good for protien for lunch, use the RECCOMENDED serving size of dressing and put it on the tuna, then in the salad. Or baco's as they are soy flour, and have a whey drink. Whey tastes much better than it did a few years back!!!!!


If you must eat bread, make a deal out of it, eat a slice of french bread toasted with a bit of olive oil and garlic, cracked pepper and a teaspoon of cheese, but only once a day at the most. I jumped off and ate a doughnut, and some chips the weekend, as well as beer, but worked my ass off doing yard work. I fit into a size 31 easily.

[Ozzmanfloyd120]

I'm telling you, intense cardio is the way to go.

[pepsi71ocean]

went to a subway for lunch, my g/f convinced me to go to one, because its healthier.

what do you guys think about that?

[Ozzmanfloyd120]

It's a start if you don't mind extreme sodium intake. (something I picked up in my days as a "Sandwich Artist")

[FordGT90Concept]

went to a subway for lunch, my g/f convinced me to go to one, because its healthier.

what do you guys think about that?
If you have to eat out, they do offer some foods that are relatively healthy. I mean, the only thing healthy your McDonalds and like offer is salads.

If you really want to control your diet, brown bag it. A deli would probably be better for you than most fast food joints.

[Steevo]

A large footlong roll doused in oil, mayo, and aretery clogging meat is no substitue for a proper diet and excersize.

[twilyth]

I haven't read all of the replies, so I hope I'm not just repeating what's already been said.

First, if you want to keep the weight off, going on a weight loss bender won't do you any good. As soon as you lose the weight, you'll put it right back on - guaranteed.

There are a lot of reasons for this, but the most insidious is that you teach your body to become more efficient. So even when you increase your caloric intake to a level below what it was when you started, you'll still gain weight.

Sucks, doesn't it?

Second, try to monitor when you eat and how much. Do you only eat when you're hungry but then tend to go overboard, or do you eat when you're not hungry because you think you're supposed to or in response to stress or emotional triggers?

If you only eat when you're hungry, remember that it takes AT LEAST 20 minutes before your stomach understands that it's been fed and can signals to your brain to say that you can stop eating. In my experience, it's closer to 30-40 minutes. So try to have a snack and then wait and see if you're still hungry.

Eating 5 or 6 small meals a day rather than 3 huge meals can also help. You won't get as hungry and you won't feel like you have to over do it.

If you eat because of stress or reasons other than hunger, try to deal with whatever those issues are. If you take care of that problem, you might end up losing weight without even having to make any effort just because you are no longer consuming excess calories.

Third, you are much better off burning calories rather than restricting calorie intake. Your body is much better able to adjust to increased levels of activity than reduced intake. However, if you are out of shape, you HAVE to start gradually and work up to the level you need for weight loss. If you don't, it will become a very painful experience which you will subconsciously try to avoid - not to mention the fact that you might do yourself some serious harm.

It's also imperative so that you can build up your stamina. You don't go anaerobic until at least 20 minutes into a vigorous work out. So up until then, you're mostly burning just the glycogen in your muscles. Only after that is gone does your body shift into fat burning mode. But if you're not in shape, 20 minutes may as well be 20 hours, so you have to build up to it.

Forth, find something you enjoy doing, or better yet, something you do anyway, and gradually increase the amount of time you spend in that activity. I used to like cycling because it gives you the chance to alternately push hard and then coast, push, then coast. It's also nice being outside and there are plenty of distractions so you aren't always focused on how much working out sucks.

But have a fall back plan in case you can't do your primary work out either because of weather, injury or whatever. It sounds gay, but work out videos are not nearly as easy as they look. Pop in a 40 minute high impact work out tape and you'll be hitting pause well before the halfway mark. They're also great for guaging your progress since you can see that it takes longer and longer before you feel tired.

Finally, remember that a lot of this stuff is genetic. There are several hormones that science has only recently begun to understand that contribute to appetite - things like orexin, ghrelin, leptin, etc. So there is a chance you will be one of those people who is just always hungry. It puts you at a disadvantage, but you can work around it. For example a strenuous workout will help release endorphines which might help to suppress your appetite.

Good luck.

[Black Panther]

You might find this site useful:

http://www.livestrong.com/thedailyplate/

Apart from a lot of info, you can make an account (free) where you input what you eat every day and it calculates the calories for you.
It also calculates how much calories you really need to eat to lose weight, so you'll know at a glance if you're eating too much, or eating the wrong food.
It also calculates the fat, protein and carb percentage of all foods. You'll find even the content for ready meals, cereal and other branded foods.

[Deusxmachina]

It sounds gay, but work out videos are not nearly as easy as they look. Pop in a 40 minute high impact work out tape and you'll be hitting pause well before the halfway mark. They're also great for guaging your progress since you can see that it takes longer and longer before you feel tired.


Some are good, most are bad, or, at least, "meh." There's been a little P90x bashing around here, but towards the end of the Plyometrics DVD, for instance, the trainer, Tony, the guy who does it all the time professionally and invented the program, literally says, "Tony's grabbing his knees! ...I'm hitting my own, personal, pause button!" And then there's a cut in the editing from when he took at least a short break.

And in the yoga and whatever ones, even the professional dancer and "1% bodyfat" guy in the back gets tired and falls over sometimes.

Another good one is Chalean Xtreme. Was pretty strange seeing the "Turbo Jam" chick doing a slow, heavy weights video, but there it is.

[twilyth]

Some are good, most are bad, or, at least, "meh." There's been a little P90x bashing around here, but towards the end of the Plyometrics DVD, for instance, the trainer, Tony, the guy who does it all the time professionally and invented the program, literally says, "Tony's grabbing his knees! ...I'm hitting my own, personal, pause button!" And then there's a cut in the editing from when he took at least a short break.

And in the yoga and whatever ones, even the professional dancer and "1% bodyfat" guy in the back gets tired and falls over sometimes.

Another good one is Chalean Xtreme. Was pretty strange seeing the "Turbo Jam" chick doing a slow, heavy weights video, but there it is.

Very true. If you've just breezed by while watching the gf bouncing the fun bags around, you've probably thought 'pussy' - which is in fact accurate . . . but that's not point. Some of them will slap you down like a Marines drill sergeant.

But finding one that you really like, or more importantly, an instructor you really like, can take time.

The best way to hack through all the hacks out there is to sign up for Netflix. They have just about every workout vid ever produced. OK, that's probably a bit of hyperbole, but not by much.

Once you find a series you really like, you can *cough* buy it *cough* or . . . you know . . . whatever. (This is completely unrelated, but DVD Fab Platinum is a great product . . . ;-) )

Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about what you eat. Your body will always find a way to defeat your best intentions. I'm not sure the following is accurate, but just to give you an idea. If you eat a lot of carbs and not much fat, your body will produce more triglycerides which are . . . yup, a kind of fat. If you eat a lot of fat, you'll produce less insulin so your blood glucose could still go up.

Like I said, those examples could be completely full of shit, but the point is that you have feedback loops regulating feedback loops that regulate still more feedback loops, so modifying one thing will probably have an affect on other things you couldn't have even imagined.

All things in moderation is the way to go. But that's just my opinion.

If you think you could be borderline type II diabetic, check the Am. Diab. Assoc. web site. The clearest warning sign is frequent urination. When I was diagnosed, I was going about every 1.5-2.5 hours. But if subjectively it feels like you're going more often, go get checked out.

Another symptom for me which is pretty common is seeing everything like there's a haze - even indoors. I'm not talking London fog, more like somebody has passed through smoking a ciggie but no so long ago that the smoke is completely gone.

I also tended to stay up for 48hrs or more without feeling even a little tired. And for me that was really bizarre since I normally sleep 8-10hrs/day.

[Ozzmanfloyd120]

Thanks for that post. An Ex of mine once told me that I show four of the top six signs of being diabetic, and I remember in early high school (which were my 275lb days) sitting in Soc. reading the book and having that hazy thing happen.

[pepsi71ocean]

i don't see any haze, but i have noticed my eyes don't like driving at night anymore, that and i pee 2 or 3 times a day. drink alot of water(but maybe that is because im working outside this week??)