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dr emulator (madmax)
08-01-2009, 09:48 PM
news from msn

http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article.aspx?cp-documentid=148931803

A US federal jury has ordered a Boston University graduate student who admitted illegally downloading and sharing music online to pay 675,000 dollars (£407,000) to four record labels.
Joel Tenenbaum, of Providence, Rhode Island, admitted in court that he downloaded and distributed 30 songs.
The only issue for the jury to decide was how much in damages to award the record labels.
Under federal law, the recording companies were entitled to 750 dollars (£450) to 30,000 dollars (£18,000) per infringement. But the law allows as much as 150,000 dollars (£90,500) per track if the jury finds the infringements were wilful. The maximum jurors could have awarded in Tenenbaum's case was 4.5 million dollars (£2.7 million).
Jurors ordered Tenenbaum to pay 22,500 dollars (£13,500) for each incident of copyright infringement, effectively finding that his actions were wilful. The lawyer for the 25-year-old student had earlier asked the jury to "send a message" to the music industry by awarding only minimal damages.
Tenenbaum said he was thankful that the case wasn't in the millions and contrasted the significance of his fine with the maximum.
Tenenbaum's lawyer, Harvard Law School professor Charles Nesson, said the jury's verdict was not fair. He said he plans to appeal the decision because he was not allowed to argue a case based on fair use.
The Recording Industry Association of America issued a statement thanking the jury for recognising the impact illegal downloading has on the music community.
"We appreciate that Mr Tenenbaum finally acknowledged that artists and music companies deserve to be paid for their work," the statement said. "From the beginning, that's what this case has been all about. We only wish he had done so sooner rather than lie about his illegal behaviour."


well what can i say ey don't do the crime if you don't wanna pay the fine ;)

twilyth
08-02-2009, 02:15 AM
Everybody thought that once the Harvard boys got involved that RIAA, et al. would head for their bunkers. Hmmm. It would seem that was an overly optimistic assessment.

BUT, on the bright side, it will give Nesson the chance to argue 'fair use' on appeal. That is something that is long, long over due.

Although not knowing the facts of the case, I don't see how that would help a defendant who had admitted pirating the songs.

The real lesson here though is, STFU until you have a lawyer.

Duh!

Wile E
08-02-2009, 10:12 AM
The amount of the fine is utter bullshit. The RIAA needs to die. They don't help the artists at all, only the labels. You know, the same guys that have been forcing mostly shit music down our throats for the past 3 decades, while stifling the truly creative artists. I was hoping that Trent Reznor telling them to fuck off would have a bigger impact on the industry. Guess I was overly optimistic.

dr emulator (madmax)
08-02-2009, 10:36 AM
what always makes me laugh about this type of situation is that people think they won't get found out ,now i know that your isp has infinate records on your activity on the net ,so all law inforcement needs to do is contact them and wham they've got ya ,although a £400000 fine is over the top ,how is he going to pay in instalments ?:rolleyes:http://tpucdn.com/forums/images/smilies/shadedshun.gif

FordGT90Concept
08-02-2009, 10:44 AM
I think they should limit fines to $3 per song (3x the retail price). "Stealing" music should be a petty offense, not a criminal case. Hell, to download it from a retailer, you are "stealing" it from host servers.

$150,000 per track is asinine.

dr emulator (madmax)
08-02-2009, 11:19 AM
The amount of the fine is utter bullshit. The RIAA needs to die. They don't help the artists at all, only the labels. You know, the same guys that have been forcing mostly shit music down our throats for the past 3 decades, while stifling the truly creative artists. I was hoping that Trent Reznor telling them to fuck off would have a bigger impact on the industry. Guess I was overly optimistic.http://www.snesorama.us/board/images/smilies/iagree.gif the riaa is a bunch ofhttp://www.snesorama.us/board/images/smilies/fap.gifers

I think they should limit fines to $3 per song (3x the retail price). "Stealing" music should be a petty offense, not a criminal case. Hell, to download it from a retailer, you are "stealing" it from host servers.

$150,000 per track is asinine.http://www.snesorama.us/board/images/smilies/scratchchin7ad.gifmaybe a bit more as it's taking food out the mouths of the poor:rolleyes:in there multimillion pound condo's in the bahama'shttp://www.phpbbserver.com/mameuifx/images/smiles/a_chuckle.gifhttp://www.snesorama.us/board/images/smilies/rofl.gif