Some people need to be neutered

Black Panther · 05-30-2011, 02:49 PM

The mother of Storm Stocker, the Canadian baby being raised with only a few people knowing his or her sex, defended her family's choice to raise their child without regard to gender.

"The strong, lightning-fast, vitriolic response was a shock," said Kathy Witterick in a letter. "The idea that the whole world must know our baby's sex strikes me as unhealthy and voyeuristic."

Kathy Witterick, 38, and David Stocker, 39, have only allowed their midwives and two older sons to peek beneath the diaper of 4-month-old Storm.

When Storm came into the world in a birthing pool on New Year's Day, they sent out this email: "We decided not to share Storm's sex for now -- a tribute to freedom and choice in place of limitation, a standup to what the world could become in Storm's lifetime."

Even Storm's brothers, 2-year-old Kio and 5-year-old Jazz, have been sworn to secrecy, as well as one close family friend. The family, while not hiding their sex of their oldest sons, also allows them to explore their gender identity. Jazz wears his hair in pigtails.

Since the story of this family was first told in the Toronto Star., they've been barraged with critical responses.

Read more here (long article)

Dammit, no one can even speak properly to this child, or do they address it as an "it"?

WhiteLotus · 05-30-2011, 02:51 PM

No you call the baby by the given name, Storm. Is it really that hard to do?

And why does anyone give a fuck?

de.das.dude · 05-30-2011, 02:53 PM

i think this is all publicity. most probably it IS a it

Black Panther · 05-30-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

No you call the baby by the given name, Storm. Is it really that hard to do?

And why does anyone give a fuck?

Well, thank heavens they speak English then. In my language we have no 'it' only 'he' or 'she' and to complicate it further verbs change depending on the gender of the person or object. (Yup, for example a table is a female but a chair is a male, a pot is a female and a plate is a male).
Now that I think of it, it's darn funny!

de.das.dude · 05-30-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Panther

Well, thank heavens they speak English then. In my language we have no 'it' only 'he' or 'she' and to complicate it further verbs change depending on the gender of the person or object. (Yup, for example a table is a female but a chair is a male, a pot is a female and a plate is a male).
Now that I think of it, it's darn funny!

over here hindi is like that. i never got the hang of it.
well as long as a penus is a he and a pussy is a she, no probs

twilyth · 05-30-2011, 04:33 PM

tl;wriypm (too long;wouldn't read if you paid me)

MT Alex · 05-30-2011, 04:46 PM

1000 to 1 these fucker mouths are vegan.

theJesus · 05-30-2011, 05:14 PM

I bet it's both.

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Originally Posted by Black Panther

Well, thank heavens they speak English then. In my language we have no 'it' only 'he' or 'she' and to complicate it further verbs change depending on the gender of the person or object. (Yup, for example a table is a female but a chair is a male, a pot is a female and a plate is a male).
Now that I think of it, it's darn funny!

Yeah, that's how German is, I fucking hated it when I took that class.

JC316 · 05-30-2011, 05:46 PM

They are just being attention whores.

palo · 05-30-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

over here hindi is like that. i never got the hang of it.
well as long as a penus is a he and a pussy is a she, no probs

Actually in French a dick is "une bite" (f) and a vagina is "un vagin" (m)...

But penis is "penis" (m) and pussy is "chatte" (f). The world is safe.

skotosa · 05-30-2011, 06:33 PM

When the kid grows up and has social problems try telling it you didn't raise it right because you wanted media attention.

Sorry we fucked you up son, we just wanted to protect our freedom by letting you choose who you wanted to be, what you wanted to eat/drink and what you wanted to be in life.

So now your an uneducated, transvestite, socially awkward, malnourished bum who begs for change.

Your Welcome Son!

Parenting exists for a reason, and people can go to jail or lose their child if they aren't proper parents. Feeding the kid healthy stuff and raising the child right are just basic necessities. I'm not even a parent but god dam it its common sense.

remixedcat · 05-30-2011, 07:13 PM

These parents are living through thier children.... I respect they want to eliminate stereotypes, however it might hurt them later.

*DanTheBanjoman* · 05-30-2011, 08:47 PM

Gotta lovely the curiosity of humanity. Somebody says "we won't tell" and everybody has to know. Somebody has a secret! Spread the news!

Considering all the crap various cultures and religions get to do to their children, this seems fine by me.

theJesus · 05-30-2011, 09:04 PM

I still think they're just embarrassed because it's got some extra bits and pieces.

Black Panther · 05-30-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Panther

In my language we have no 'it' only 'he' or 'she'.....for example a chair is a male

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

well as long as a penus is a he

OMG the chair I'm sitting on! It has a penus!!

theJesus · 05-30-2011, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Panther

OMG the chair I'm sitting on! It has a penus!!

Congratulations, you've made it back into my sig lol

DaveK · 05-30-2011, 10:05 PM

If I didn't care what my sister's baby was, I'm damn well not gonna care about a stranger's baby in Canada.

1Kurgan1 · 05-31-2011, 12:57 PM

I have a 2 year old son and swearing him to secrecy isn't going to do anything, they can form a lot of words by that time, but the concept of secrets isn't even there.

Screaming Beaver · 05-31-2011, 01:09 PM

I really could care less if they decide not to share the sex of their child. I'm not going to raise my voice in outrage of their parenting or any such foolishness.

If they were the ones who gave this story to the paper than they are attention whores though, I don't approve of that. Without reading the whole link though, what was posted just said "the story given" not that they themselves did so. Perhaps some nosy neighbor decided to go to the press.

*DanTheBanjoman* · 05-31-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

I have a 2 year old son and swearing him to secrecy isn't going to do anything, they can form a lot of words by that time, but the concept of secrets isn't even there.

Then you're raising him wrong. You'll never become the amazing train robbing duo every man wants to form with his son.

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I really could care less if they decide not to share the sex of their child.

I couldn't.

CyberDruid · 05-31-2011, 02:10 PM

There was no hiding my first child's gender. He was born with full sized junk. And even in the stroller he was an incorrigible woman watcher. Any woman that walked past would cause his head to swivel like an owl.

Black Panther · 05-31-2011, 02:14 PM

So you mean he definitely didn't take after his mother at all...

CyberDruid · 05-31-2011, 02:16 PM

Well he is stubborn and willful. I think that counts, and his facial features definitely have a lot of Mom to them...same forehead and chin. But he's got my big ears and smile.

WhiteLotus · 05-31-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Screaming Beaver

I really could care less...

So you could care less. Meaning you care now.

Screaming Beaver · 06-01-2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

So you could care less. Meaning you care now.

Nope

05-30-2011, 06:33 PM	#11
skotosa Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 788 Thanks: 126 Thanked 279 Times in 169 Posts Dislikes: 0 Disliked 2 Times in 2 Posts	When the kid grows up and has social problems try telling it you didn't raise it right because you wanted media attention. Sorry we fucked you up son, we just wanted to protect our freedom by letting you choose who you wanted to be, what you wanted to eat/drink and what you wanted to be in life. So now your an uneducated, transvestite, socially awkward, malnourished bum who begs for change. Your Welcome Son! Parenting exists for a reason, and people can go to jail or lose their child if they aren't proper parents. Feeding the kid healthy stuff and raising the child right are just basic necessities. I'm not even a parent but god dam it its common sense. __________________ Twinkle, twinkle little star - I know exactly what you are! A self-luminous sphere of incredible mass - a mixture of hydrogen and helium gas... Last edited by skotosa; 05-30-2011 at 06:36 PM.

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remixedcat Skooma Addicted Moderator Join Date: May 2010 Location: a dream within a dream Posts: 10,510 Thanks: 4,700 Thanked 4,959 Times in 3,059 Posts Dislikes: 127 Disliked 101 Times in 83 Posts	These parents are living through thier children.... I respect they want to eliminate stereotypes, however it might hurt them later. __________________ "stop my bleeding with your hand or let me fly to heaven my friend, 45 seconds from now on the rest of my life.....rescue me or let me fly tonight!"

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theJesus I QUIT MAH JERB! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Where the broken things are Posts: 18,965 Thanks: 21,178 Thanked 8,800 Times in 5,583 Posts Dislikes: 446 Disliked 194 Times in 169 Posts	I still think they're just embarrassed because it's got some extra bits and pieces. __________________ "Oh come on. Quit making excuses already. Even in a weird position, and doing it manualy, it only takes a couple of minutes. You are just being OCD about it or something." - Wile E "OMG the chair I'm sitting on! It has a penus!! " - Black Panther "Signatures should not contain quotes. It makes no sense." - DanTheBanjoman I doesnt afraid of anything!

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Screaming Beaver Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,914 Thanks: 828 Thanked 1,876 Times in 1,028 Posts Dislikes: 85 Disliked 27 Times in 21 Posts	I really could care less if they decide not to share the sex of their child. I'm not going to raise my voice in outrage of their parenting or any such foolishness. If they were the ones who gave this story to the paper than they are attention whores though, I don't approve of that. Without reading the whole link though, what was posted just said "the story given" not that they themselves did so. Perhaps some nosy neighbor decided to go to the press. __________________ Matt Taibbi Quotes Morality is so trite You know what, Mike Bloomberg? FCK YOU* ...In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.

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CyberDruid Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In a Faraday Cage Posts: 4,917 Thanks: 1,337 Thanked 1,337 Times in 743 Posts Dislikes: 64 Disliked 46 Times in 30 Posts	There was no hiding my first child's gender. He was born with full sized junk. And even in the stroller he was an incorrigible woman watcher. Any woman that walked past would cause his head to swivel like an owl. __________________ Resistance is Victory

05-30-2011, 02:51 PM	#2
WhiteLotus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,649 Thanks: 422 Thanked 1,668 Times in 1,025 Posts Dislikes: 31 Disliked 51 Times in 45 Posts	No you call the baby by the given name, Storm. Is it really that hard to do? And why does anyone give a fuck?

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de.das.dude Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 8,535 Thanks: 3,338 Thanked 77 Times in 54 Posts Dislikes: 256 Disliked 740 Times in 518 Posts	i think this is all publicity. most probably it IS a it

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twilyth Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,280 Thanks: 7,402 Thanked 5,579 Times in 3,287 Posts Dislikes: 165 Disliked 124 Times in 107 Posts	tl;wriypm (too long;wouldn't read if you paid me)

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JC316 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 5,614 Thanks: 871 Thanked 3,478 Times in 1,783 Posts Dislikes: 9 Disliked 15 Times in 14 Posts	They are just being attention whores.

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DanTheBanjoman Administrator Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Utrecht, Utrecht, Kingdom of the Netherlands Posts: 2,575 Thanks: 31 Thanked 1,751 Times in 815 Posts Dislikes: 4 Disliked 36 Times in 29 Posts	Gotta lovely the curiosity of humanity. Somebody says "we won't tell" and everybody has to know. Somebody has a secret! Spread the news! Considering all the crap various cultures and religions get to do to their children, this seems fine by me.

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DaveK Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 2,237 Thanks: 285 Thanked 522 Times in 324 Posts Dislikes: 0 Disliked 1 Time in 1 Post	If I didn't care what my sister's baby was, I'm damn well not gonna care about a stranger's baby in Canada.

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1Kurgan1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Duluth, MN Posts: 3,597 Thanks: 1,467 Thanked 3,790 Times in 1,140 Posts Dislikes: 57 Disliked 18 Times in 14 Posts	I have a 2 year old son and swearing him to secrecy isn't going to do anything, they can form a lot of words by that time, but the concept of secrets isn't even there.

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CyberDruid Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In a Faraday Cage Posts: 4,917 Thanks: 1,337 Thanked 1,337 Times in 743 Posts Dislikes: 64 Disliked 46 Times in 30 Posts	Well he is stubborn and willful. I think that counts, and his facial features definitely have a lot of Mom to them...same forehead and chin. But he's got my big ears and smile. __________________ Resistance is Victory

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