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Old 06-27-2012, 01:12 AM   #51
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What isn't broken/corrupt/abused in our government? Betcha gotta think really hard on that one.
Im being nice dude.. don't get sarcastic or condescending with me.. Im using much restraint in this thread and will continue to do so

funny how you wont mention other things.. but automatically.. its the poor that have FS are the ones abusing the system... you think the gov should tell the FS recipients even more stuff they cant buy with it.. i think the same about SSI..BUT you wouldn't like that too much now would you...Being all high and might about ppl on assistance AND you are on assistance as well.. just a different program
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So sorry to hear you've fallen on hard times...
My mom and brother have it and my check doesn't bring in enough to make enough of a difference unfortunately... Anyway, I don't know what others might try to do with their money but we sure as hell don't buy steak, great way to burn through what you get, not sure how these people would eat the rest of the month if they depend on food stamps to live.

I'm not sure where that study gets its info but no gas station I know will take EBT and certainly no restaurant. Not sure why people should care though if people want to spend their money on potato chips though, if they want to eat garbage its their choice, not up to the government to demand they only eat healthy. I suppose I can imagine the restrictions growing so you can only buy "approved goods" though, bleh.

Now if people commit fraud, seems to me there should be some better way to police it instead of trying to condemn the program itself...

Seriously, fried chicken restaurants? Perhaps somewhere in the country its true but it sounds like such a cliche against a certain minority group...
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My mom and brother have it and my check doesn't bring in enough to make enough of a difference unfortunately... Anyway, I don't know what others might try to do with their money but we sure as hell don't buy steak, great way to burn through what you get, not sure how these people would eat the rest of the month if they depend on food stamps to live.
YEP.. I have to shop on a budget or i run out FAST..

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I'm not sure where that study gets its info but no gas station I know will take EBT and certainly no restaurant. Not sure why people should care though if people want to spend their money on potato chips though, if they want to eat garbage its their choice, not up to the government to demand they only eat healthy. I suppose I can imagine the restrictions growing so you can only buy "approved goods" though, bleh.
You serious.. ALMOST ALL gas stations/convenience stores accept FS here

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You serious.. ALMOST ALL gas stations/convenience stores accept FS here
I've tried before but get a head shake every time. Not that I've that upset, you get better deals by going to the supermarket anyway. For the best even if it can be inconvenient.
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I've tried before but get a head shake every time. Not that I've that upset, you get better deals by going to the supermarket anyway. For the best even if it can be inconvenient.
Well.. the ones around here have big signs that say.. food stamps accepted.. Ive rarely run across a convenient store that doesnt accept them..

I have a fixed amount I will spend at a convenient store .. The rest goes to the grocery store
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funny how you wont mention other things.. but automatically.. its the poor that have FS are the ones abusing the system... you think the gov should tell the FS recipients even more stuff they cant buy with it.. i think the same about SSI..BUT you wouldn't like that too much now would you...Being all high and might about ppl on assistance AND you are on assistance as well.. just a different program
Because "other things" are out of the context of this thread.

Because it's fucking welfare! If you're going to spend other people's money they had no option not to contribute to, you better be responsible with it and if you can't be, government shouldn't give you a choice not to be. Welfare is not charity.

91.6% of the SSI money I receive monthly goes to rent or student loans (they cannot be forgiven). The remaining 8.4% is what keeps me from committing suicide. I know that money is borrowed so I don't squander a cent of it.

By design, SSI needs to be more flexible than SNAP because it has to cover all living expenses, not just a very specific category (much like how Medicare/Medicaid have heavy restrictions).

In the five years I have been receiving SSI benefits, they only called to check on me once and I have never been audited for eligibility to continue to receive benefits. I want them to audit me and everyone else to weed those out of the system that are cheating it. I know benefits will continue for me because nothing has changed in the last five years and I got on it first attempt last time. As for the other people, their condition should dictate if they stay on or forced off.


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The program is designed so it can't be policed.
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Because "other things" are out of the context of this thread.

Because it's fucking welfare! If you're going to spend other people's money they had no option not to contribute to, you better be responsible with it and if you can't be, government shouldn't give you a choice not to be. Welfare is not charity.

91.6% of the SSI money I receive monthly goes to rent or student loans. The remaining 8.4% is what keeps me from committing suicide. I know that money is borrowed so I don't squander a cent of it.

By design, SSI needs to be more flexible than SNAP because it has to cover all living expenses, not just a very specific category (much like how Medicare/Medicaid have heavy restrictions).

In the five years I have been receiving SSI benefits, they only called to check on me once and I have never been audited for eligibility to continue to receive benefits. I want them to audit me and everyone else to weed those out of the system that are cheating it. I know benefits will continue for me because nothing has changed in the last five years and I got on it first attempt last time. As for the other people, their condition should dictate if they stay on or forced off.



The program is designed so it can't be policed.
Yes ford. it is welfare.. BIG FUCKING DEAL.. I got a child.. do you have one?..I live on my own.... DO YOU?.. I work.. do you have a job?.. And i am by all definitions .. I am disabled.. I NEVER know if the next day will be good or bad.. AND BAD can be far worse than you are capable of imagining...WITH no one to get me through it but me.. no one to call except my daughter and i could be in extremely bad shape before she gets to where i'm at. as she has 2 young children.. You think im making this up.. ever been so dizzy.. you can hardly stand.. This is me 60% of the day... ever loose the ability to walk.. write.. or have really bad slurred speech.. this is me..if it gets really bad..AND that scares me really bad when im out in public..the fact my brain feels really mushy doesn't help.. The fact that I have had to rely on ME for so long... has made me mentally strong and a bit off .., as I said before I probably suffer from a mild case of PTSD, because i have dealt with this for 3 decades

no dude.. i didn't take shit out of context IMO.. BTW.. Im also on housing assistance AND would gladly give all of my assistance up for a good paying job.. because you know.. I LOVE busting my ass and earning 2 A.A.S. degrees with a cumulative GPA of a 3.3 AND making 7.85 and hour for 20 - 22.5 hours a week.. My body wont allow me to work much more than 4.5 to 5 hours a day.. I take a risk of getting sick before I get home.. takes me an hour to get to work via the bus and an hour to get back.. gotta think ahead sometimes. and if im wrong.. i either loose money or get very sick
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You're trying to make this thread about you and did so since your first post in this thread. The subject of this thread is advertising used to promote a program (SNAP) that desperately requires reform and oversight. You insist on telling us over, and over, and over how badly you need SNAP. Frankly, I don't care because that doesn't change the fact that SNAP requires reform and oversight.

As for taking "shit out of context," you're doing it again by bringing up housing assistance, education degrees, hours worked, etc. Those "other things" have no bearing on this thread.

Fuck it, this thread is trashed.
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I think if things don't change and soon I'll be on FS as well...
I hate the thought of doing so and I'm frustrated beyond all hell about my situation...

I'm loosing everything I worked for....but I got a wonderful baby in exchange...So in the end it's all worth it...

I originally started to post my whole situation and how I got to this point but it was TL;DR LOL Y'all don't wanna hear it...But rest assured Ive done everything I could possibly do right and I still can't avoid the need of assistance...

I went from about $1100 a week average to about $250 and my savings got wiped out buying what I need for the baby and what I thought was all I'd have to pay for my Insurance co-pay....

In the end tho it'll all be alright...


EDIT: I'm starting to think the problem isn't with the FS program but with everything else in this country....One way or another money takes your money and leaves you in need....and not if but when it happens to you, You better just hope that there is still some type of assistance there to help you.
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Clerk fired for refusing to accept welfare card to pay for cigarettes...

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You're trying to make this thread about you and did so since your first post in this thread. The subject of this thread is advertising used to promote a program (SNAP) that desperately requires reform and oversight. You insist on telling us over, and over, and over how badly you need SNAP. Frankly, I don't care because that doesn't change the fact that SNAP requires reform and oversight.

As for taking "shit out of context," you're doing it again by bringing up housing assistance, education degrees, hours worked, etc. Those "other things" have no bearing on this thread.

Fuck it, this thread is trashed.
DUDE.. Im bringing that up because i CAN RELATE ..AS I have been there.... you cannot...

Issues i have on your point of view
A) what constitutes abuse.. buying name brand items IS NOT ABUSE.. as i said before abuse is circumventing the system,not recording income, or selling them
I went to the grocery store and spent $117 to get groceries for the week on monday.. That was the last of my FS until the 13th.. do you know what that buys you in a grocery store.. not as much as you might think.. AND most was generic.. I didnt buy any fukin steak or prime cuts of meat.. are ya fukin crazy.. only meat i bought was 6 lbs of hamburger meat and that was like $14.50..I did buy some name brand cookies and bought some generic chips.. 2 for 4.00 type of deal.... YES.. again.. i use me as an example.. because A) im on FS.. B) i go to the grocery store with FS and i budget.. Im working on 200.00 less FS this month and it fukin sucks

B) you criticize one type of assistance but YOU are on assistance as well.. just a different one and the tax payers get the tab too
C) you have no kids,you live at home, your on a different assistance program and have no job to my knowledge.. NOW how in the fuck can you relate to someone that has kids, a job, lives on there own and must be on FS in order to survive.. Ever heard a hungry child.? trust me its NOT a nice feeling.. I have..and have gone without eating days so my children could eat..YOU CANT UNDERSTAND.. AND that is my point.. all you do is criticize and you don't have a fuckin clue.. You talk about food bank.. BUT have probably have never used those services or volunteered at one...I walk through one 3 times a day minimum and will lend a hand if asked..I have had to get food from several food banks as well and i do volunteer STILL.. usually at a thrift store though...

I do apologize for making it about me.. and I didn't in actuality mean to but it kinda happened that way.. The main reason I did was because I understand...A few things stand out.. The main reason you didn't accept the FS's is because you think there is a negative stigma and you thought that somehow it would reflect badly on you as a person.. and DO you know anyone on FS? I suspect you dont and again.. this hurts your credibility.. seriously.. get out of your cave once in awhile and talk to ppl.. you will learn more.. Used to go to the mall and just people watch... You will be amazed at what you will learn about your fellow man.. just by watching

I brought up the degrees because IF i actually could find a decent paying job.. i would not need to be on assistance.. what do u think my degrees are in anyway? Programming and electronics... thats right.. im a code monkey when i want to be and at times.. im a damn good one

NO dude..your unwavering Obama bashing and right wing rhetoric trashed this thread as well..

you know what i hope.. I hope a fukin republican will get into office so instead of bashing a president.. we will see you defend his failed policies and agenda.. And ill be right there dude..

THIS is why im Apolitical.. Politics is this country is really fucked up... ALL politicians are the same.. just their agenda might be different.. They don't fukin care about you or me.. only about the special interest groups that got them elected in the 1st place

OK im done...
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YEP.... It was TANF which is cash welfare... would be no different if someone on disability cashed their check/used a debit card and used it for the same thing.. or would it? no...it would not.. its still tax payers money
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A) Buying name brand when off-brand is available should be considered abuse and not "abuse" in the sense we should hunt you down and flog you but abuse in the sense that the item should be denied when attempting to put it on a card (have to buy it out of pocket).

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A) Buying name brand when off-brand is available should be considered abuse and not "abuse" in the sense we should hunt you down and flog you but abuse in the sense that the item should be denied when attempting to put it on a card (have to buy it out of pocket).
But what if it's on sale? Or they have coupons? etc etc

edit - Also what defines name brand?

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I bet she just got back form a 1 mile walk...

AMERICA... even its poor are fat.
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I bet she just got back form a 1 mile walk...

AMERICA... even its poor are fat.
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If i heard her right she basically admits to being on government assistance for 20yrs +

If i did indeed hear her correctly then she is obviously defrauding the government and should be dealt with accordingly

Assistance means just that; ASSISTANCE. Not fucking "we support your lazy ass". There are a lot of problems that need fixing all over the place and that vid is a prime example.

I have gone to the food bank before myself. Life is life.
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I had a friend who's mom would have a kid every 3-4 years so she could keep getting benefits and not have to work.
6 kids, 6 different fathers.

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But what if it's on sale? Or they have coupons? etc etc

edit - Also what defines name brand?
I already addressed that. Basically name brand would qualify as a more expensive product to one that does the exact same thing for less.
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