Does Spelling Matter?

CyberDruid · 05-15-2011, 03:41 PM

To you?

When I read a post here or anywhere I find that I judge the poster's credibility and intelligence based on their ability to spell and use the English language as taught to our children in elementary school.

How about you?

What do you think about this? When you see a post filled with errors does it make you think that the poster is ignorant?

Do you think that it is important to take the time to edit and correct errors?

MoonPig · 05-15-2011, 03:46 PM

Yes. If you can't spell, you're an idiot. A basic level of grammar is needed too.

If someone's post is made up of shit spelling, i won't read their post / thread.

entropy13 · 05-15-2011, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoonPig

Yes. If you can't spell, you're an idiot. A basic level of grammar is needed too.

If someone's post is made up of shit spelling, i won't read their post / thread.

Black Panther · 05-15-2011, 04:04 PM

As a mod I do correct obvious mistakes in thread titles - I'm not finicky about it here but at TPU I am because such errors can preclude threads from showing up in searches etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberDruid

When you see a post filled with errors does it make you think that the poster is ignorant?

No - I give the benefit of doubt just in case the poster is dyslexic, or from some country where they don't learn much English at school etc...

I think the poster is ignorant iF HE tYPes LiKe ThIs or uses way 2 many shortcuts that it obv tht's jst lazyness kthx by brb!!1!

(Ugh!)

twilyth · 05-15-2011, 04:09 PM

I thought all browsers had spell checking now - guess not. Either that or people are too lazy to pay attention when a word gets flagged. IDK.

I doesn't generally bother me unless it starts to interfere with comprehension or it slows me down a lot. If I can't go more than a few words without having to rewrite the text in my head, that's a problem and I'm not likely to finish reading. If I have to read sentences more than once to try to decipher what's being said, I'll cut my losses and move on.

Spelling is less of an issue unless you get someone like MM who used to try to make posts as incomprehensible as possible. But even that didn't really bother me since I just wouldn't read her shit.

FordGT90Concept · 05-15-2011, 04:09 PM

As long as I get the jist of what someone is saying, I don't really care.

MT Alex · 05-15-2011, 04:10 PM

You mean because I can't spell deprecation?

You bet. Syntax and grammar are very important. Other than long sentence rants from Solaris, I often shake my head at posts that are in all lowercase, filled with urban slang and gross errors. That being said, I'm a very poor speller, and have to use the google bar if I want to get things right.

ETA:

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilyth

Spelling is less of an issue unless you get someone like MM who used to try to make posts as incomprehensible as possible.

I don't think it was a conscience decision.

CyberDruid · 05-15-2011, 04:17 PM

I was just giving you a little poke MT.

Most browsers will highlight errors. So it is mostly laziness that lets spelling errors through. Syntax, grammar, all those little signs that someone knows their shit, are important to me. When I speak to someone I can rapidly determine their mental aptitude by a number of cues. And it is not much different when reading text. The exception being either ESL posters, or people that are clearly too lazy to type well. Those might be annoying but they are not really useful cues for me.

MT Alex · 05-15-2011, 04:29 PM

What is this "browser spell checker" you all are referring to? I always use IE, and have never had the ease of any wizz bang spell checker. That would be nice.

twilyth · 05-15-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MT Alex

What is this "browser spell checker" you all are referring to? I always use IE, and have never had the ease of any wizz bang spell checker. That would be nice.

IE still doesn't have a spell checker? That's amazing, even for Microsoft.

MT Alex · 05-15-2011, 04:45 PM

Yup. I just installed Speckie, but it doesn't seem all that great. I wish I didn't like IE9 so well, I'd ditch it for a browser that had one built in. Speckie flags as I type, but it's dictionary doesn't seem to include its name as a properly spelled word

jmcslob · 05-15-2011, 05:02 PM

Doesn't bother me at all when their are grammatical errors...Shit happens.
Personally I don't believe that anyone here has been perfect when it comes to grammar.
Besides I often have to misspell words for our other English speaking friends....Trust me "Z" is not as common here in America as it is elsewhere in the world.

twilyth · 05-15-2011, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcslob

Besides I often have to misspell words for our other English speaking friends....Trust me "Z" is not as common here in America as it is elsewhere in the world.

Ruh?

English grammar is some fucked up shit. Not as fucked up as English spelling though.

jmcslob · 05-15-2011, 05:20 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...2C_-ization.29

I meant to say more common but for some reason Ma mind got stuck in uncommon...LOL as in not as common

Quote:

Trust me "Z" is not as common here in America as it is elsewhere in the world.

should have been "Z" is more common here in America than it is elsewhere in the world.

I will at times spell words with an "s" instead of the "z" but that's the way I was taught.
But Now the American standard is "z".

Frick · 05-15-2011, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilyth

I thought all browsers had spell checking now - guess not. Either that or people are too lazy to pay attention when a word gets flagged. IDK.

It's the first thing I turn off as it annoys the heck out of me. Even more annoying as I browse sites in both swedish and english.

Anyway, I think it's silly to think someone is inferior because of their spelling. It's the Internet folks, they can be 12 and from siberia or something. They can be from anywhere. It's when they cannot make themselves understood I question if they should be on an english speaking forum at all.

But when I know it's a guy in his 30's from Minnesota or Edinburgh I want them to be somewhat correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoonPig

Yes. If you can't spell, you're an idiot. A basic level of grammar is needed too.

If someone's post is made up of shit spelling, i won't read their post / thread.

Even if you know that person have english as a third language?

jmcslob · 05-15-2011, 05:59 PM

I just realized that it bothers me when someone typing in their second language gets told that their education system is inferior by someone that can only carry on a conversation in the one and only language they've ever known because it's all they were taught.

It also bothers me that they've been taking Spanish off of labels....Used to be a Spanish version of everything which imo was awesome since it had the same thing in English and Spanish written right on it....Which I'm sure made it easy for Spanish reading people to learn to read English and viceversa, que por cierto es el español

Which is also why a non-English speaking native of the US may have a hard time since here in the US we meld words from other languages on a whim and usually with a different meaning than the root of the word..

But yet they will argue and hold their own.

DrPepper · 05-15-2011, 06:05 PM

Is spelling important ?

iosfjo sgnornovbnroebmnpdmfvbl;mperjhpjepfogmpbm

Not really.

WhiteLotus · 05-15-2011, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilyth

Ruh?

English grammar is some fucked up shit. Not as fucked up as English spelling though.

Hey, you leave English alone and take your bastardised version of the language elsewhere!

Frick · 05-15-2011, 06:18 PM

English is the best kind of english.

CyberDruid · 05-15-2011, 06:57 PM

My position is that humans are devolving fast enough without a total break down of conventions.

Soylent Joe · 05-15-2011, 08:01 PM

Haha U Gus think Spelling n ashit rly Matters lul ppl on The Internt dont Have To spell like Real life its just For Fun,

*DanTheBanjoman* · 05-15-2011, 08:12 PM

People tend to come across as retards if their use of language is really bad. Apart from it being a pain to read I consider it impolite when people don't take the time to communicate properly. Sure, English might not be your native language, that's no excuse to skip punctuation as a whole. Why should I waste my time on somebody who can't be arsed to take a minute to write in a comprehensive way?

jmcslob · 05-15-2011, 08:16 PM

^Perfectly written.....and probably under the influence as well.

theJesus · 05-15-2011, 10:08 PM

Yes.

Reventon · 05-15-2011, 10:40 PM

Spelling and grammar are kind of important in not making yourself look like a retard, but you don't have to be perfect every time. It's okay to leave out apostrophes and shit, I always do.

05-15-2011, 03:41 PM	#1
CyberDruid Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In a Faraday Cage Posts: 4,917 Thanks: 1,337 Thanked 1,337 Times in 743 Posts Dislikes: 64 Disliked 46 Times in 30 Posts	Does Spelling Matter? To you? When I read a post here or anywhere I find that I judge the poster's credibility and intelligence based on their ability to spell and use the English language as taught to our children in elementary school. How about you? What do you think about this? When you see a post filled with errors does it make you think that the poster is ignorant? Do you think that it is important to take the time to edit and correct errors? __________________ Resistance is Victory Last edited by CyberDruid; 05-15-2011 at 03:45 PM.

05-15-2011, 04:09 PM	#5
twilyth Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,750 Thanks: 7,626 Thanked 6,102 Times in 3,528 Posts Dislikes: 165 Disliked 128 Times in 111 Posts	I thought all browsers had spell checking now - guess not. Either that or people are too lazy to pay attention when a word gets flagged. IDK. I doesn't generally bother me unless it starts to interfere with comprehension or it slows me down a lot. If I can't go more than a few words without having to rewrite the text in my head, that's a problem and I'm not likely to finish reading. If I have to read sentences more than once to try to decipher what's being said, I'll cut my losses and move on. Spelling is less of an issue unless you get someone like MM who used to try to make posts as incomprehensible as possible. But even that didn't really bother me since I just wouldn't read her shit. Last edited by twilyth; 05-15-2011 at 04:11 PM.

05-15-2011, 04:09 PM	#6
FordGT90Concept Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: IA, USA Posts: 18,924 Thanks: 5,237 Thanked 5,225 Times in 3,549 Posts Dislikes: 137 Disliked 144 Times in 133 Posts	As long as I get the jist of what someone is saying, I don't really care. __________________ Doc, note: I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod. . --Professor Peter Hilton

05-15-2011, 04:17 PM	#8
CyberDruid Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In a Faraday Cage Posts: 4,917 Thanks: 1,337 Thanked 1,337 Times in 743 Posts Dislikes: 64 Disliked 46 Times in 30 Posts	I was just giving you a little poke MT. Most browsers will highlight errors. So it is mostly laziness that lets spelling errors through. Syntax, grammar, all those little signs that someone knows their shit, are important to me. When I speak to someone I can rapidly determine their mental aptitude by a number of cues. And it is not much different when reading text. The exception being either ESL posters, or people that are clearly too lazy to type well. Those might be annoying but they are not really useful cues for me. __________________ Resistance is Victory

05-15-2011, 05:02 PM	#12
jmcslob Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9,864 Thanks: 5,599 Thanked 4,948 Times in 2,872 Posts Dislikes: 31 Disliked 76 Times in 62 Posts	Doesn't bother me at all when their are grammatical errors...Shit happens. Personally I don't believe that anyone here has been perfect when it comes to grammar. Besides I often have to misspell words for our other English speaking friends....Trust me "Z" is not as common here in America as it is elsewhere in the world. __________________ "The true scientist, however passionately he may 'believe', in evolution for example, knows exactly what would change his mind: evidence. The fundamentalist knows that nothing will.".... Atheism isn't a religion its a personal relationship with reality. Atheism isn't a belief system. Saying atheism is a belief system is like saying not going skying is a hobby.

05-15-2011, 03:46 PM	#2
MoonPig Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 359 Thanks: 89 Thanked 163 Times in 79 Posts Dislikes: 0 Disliked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes. If you can't spell, you're an idiot. A basic level of grammar is needed too. If someone's post is made up of shit spelling, i won't read their post / thread.

05-15-2011, 05:59 PM	#16
jmcslob Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9,864 Thanks: 5,599 Thanked 4,948 Times in 2,872 Posts Dislikes: 31 Disliked 76 Times in 62 Posts	I just realized that it bothers me when someone typing in their second language gets told that their education system is inferior by someone that can only carry on a conversation in the one and only language they've ever known because it's all they were taught. It also bothers me that they've been taking Spanish off of labels....Used to be a Spanish version of everything which imo was awesome since it had the same thing in English and Spanish written right on it....Which I'm sure made it easy for Spanish reading people to learn to read English and viceversa, que por cierto es el español Which is also why a non-English speaking native of the US may have a hard time since here in the US we meld words from other languages on a whim and usually with a different meaning than the root of the word.. But yet they will argue and hold their own. __________________ "The true scientist, however passionately he may 'believe', in evolution for example, knows exactly what would change his mind: evidence. The fundamentalist knows that nothing will.".... Atheism isn't a religion its a personal relationship with reality. Atheism isn't a belief system. Saying atheism is a belief system is like saying not going skying is a hobby. Last edited by jmcslob; 05-15-2011 at 06:03 PM.

05-15-2011, 06:05 PM	#17
DrPepper Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,495 Thanks: 464 Thanked 912 Times in 590 Posts Dislikes: 4 Disliked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Is spelling important ? iosfjo sgnornovbnroebmnpdmfvbl;mperjhpjepfogmpbm Not really.

05-15-2011, 06:18 PM	#19
Frick Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,408 Thanks: 289 Thanked 1,213 Times in 681 Posts Dislikes: 5 Disliked 75 Times in 39 Posts	English is the best kind of english. __________________ Kreij: "Huh. Never really viewed the US as a 3rd world country, but I guess I should start." PC1: I see PC2 is on another network.

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CyberDruid Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In a Faraday Cage Posts: 4,917 Thanks: 1,337 Thanked 1,337 Times in 743 Posts Dislikes: 64 Disliked 46 Times in 30 Posts	My position is that humans are devolving fast enough without a total break down of conventions. __________________ Resistance is Victory

05-15-2011, 08:01 PM	#21
Soylent Joe Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brunswick, GA Posts: 1,069 Thanks: 830 Thanked 377 Times in 196 Posts Dislikes: 9 Disliked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Haha U Gus think Spelling n ashit rly Matters lul ppl on The Internt dont Have To spell like Real life its just For Fun,

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DanTheBanjoman Administrator Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Utrecht, Utrecht, Kingdom of the Netherlands Posts: 2,610 Thanks: 31 Thanked 1,795 Times in 835 Posts Dislikes: 4 Disliked 38 Times in 30 Posts	People tend to come across as retards if their use of language is really bad. Apart from it being a pain to read I consider it impolite when people don't take the time to communicate properly. Sure, English might not be your native language, that's no excuse to skip punctuation as a whole. Why should I waste my time on somebody who can't be arsed to take a minute to write in a comprehensive way?

05-15-2011, 08:16 PM	#23
jmcslob Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9,864 Thanks: 5,599 Thanked 4,948 Times in 2,872 Posts Dislikes: 31 Disliked 76 Times in 62 Posts	^Perfectly written.....and probably under the influence as well. __________________ "The true scientist, however passionately he may 'believe', in evolution for example, knows exactly what would change his mind: evidence. The fundamentalist knows that nothing will.".... Atheism isn't a religion its a personal relationship with reality. Atheism isn't a belief system. Saying atheism is a belief system is like saying not going skying is a hobby.

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