Game of Thrones - Page 3

entropy13 · 04-02-2012, 05:32 PM

Looks like a show about a typical playthrough of Crusader Kings II. LOLOLOL

"Houses" fighting for the Iron Throne: Noble families of the various kingdoms of Europe.

"Two threats" outside of the Seven Kingdoms: Muslims and Mongols (albeit the Muslims are in the south and Mongols would suddenly come from the east with their uber powerful units).

Chevalr1c · 04-02-2012, 07:37 PM

The "Houses" are noble families, I assume barons/dukes or any other high rank in the feudal system. So I think that a comparison with the British civil wars (e.g. War of the Roses) is better than comparing it with medieval Europe as a whole. Even though they are referred to as kings, they are actually dukes/barons ruling over a semi-autonomous dukedom being under rule of a king.

Regarding the extra-national threats; I do not think that White Walkers are comparable to Muslims. Neither does the Dothraki religion seem like Islam, although I did not read the books yet so I am not sure (the TV series sort of ignores the religions a bit although there are references to some gods). I think that if it resembles any real religion, than the Dothraki have a faith comparable to the Mongol religion from before Timudzjin's rise to power as Genghis Khan (under his rule, there was religious freedom in order to let conquered nations keep their own religion. It was much later than that, that the Mongol Empire became Islamic and fell apart into several khanates, AFAIK). Even though you are right about the resemblance of the Dothraki to the Mongols as a people.

entropy13 · 04-03-2012, 12:40 AM

I did say "Crusader Kings II" so it doesn't really correspond to the War of the Roses. I doubt the War of the Roses would ever happen, although you can say that it's already happening between the de Normandie and Godwin instead of Lancaster and York. LOL

BumbleBee · 04-03-2012, 01:48 AM

sweet episode 2 is up

twilyth · 04-03-2012, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BumbleBee

sweet episode 2 is up

dl'ing now

twilyth · 04-03-2012, 02:28 AM

Done. Oh, this is so cool.

Heeheeheeheeheehee!!!!

BumbleBee · 04-03-2012, 02:31 AM

hmmm

twilyth · 04-03-2012, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BumbleBee

hmmm

see for yourself

http://www.binsearch.info/index.php?...&hideposter=on

Screaming Beaver · 04-03-2012, 02:44 AM

GRRM has said that the plot is loosely based on the War of the Roses but just that loosely, he doesn't want any direct historical parallels

wait episode 2 is up? its not airing until Sunday...

twilyth · 04-03-2012, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Screaming Beaver

GRRM has said that the plot is loosely based on the War of the Roses but just that loosely, he doesn't want any direct historical parallels

wait episode 2 is up? its not airing until Sunday...

It's on usenet - posted about an hour ago - see the link in my previos post. I'm sure it will start popping up elsewhere but it might get DMCA'd too. IDK.

Screaming Beaver · 04-03-2012, 02:48 AM

ugh downloading... i don't have good virus protection so think i'll wait so i can watch streaming, was linked to a site that put up the new ep less than a half hour after airing

twilyth · 04-03-2012, 02:54 AM

i go through a secure vpn and all that happens behind the scenes. Plus I use newsbin which can't really be hacked. Same for GomPlayer.

BumbleBee · 04-03-2012, 04:45 AM

dew dew dew dew dew /hums intro

m1dg3t · 04-03-2012, 04:54 AM

^^ LOL yesterday's episode was to frickin' short! There was a lot going on for the first episode of the season IMO it would have been nice/better to stretch the story out a bit, guess i'm just sloooooooooooow

BumbleBee · 04-03-2012, 05:18 AM

hehe Arya is cute

m1dg3t · 04-03-2012, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BumbleBee

hehe Arya is cute

She's a lil' young for my taste's, i prefer women as opposed to girl's. Especially girl's that look like boy's lol

I'm surprised she managed to escape and that guy she's with is going to end up being someone important i think? Hopefully she/they can get back to the north OK

twilyth · 04-03-2012, 08:21 AM

I'm about a third of the way through it (keep jumping back and forth between GOT and green lantern), but I'm bummed since the rip doesn't have closed captioning. Even though my hearing is fine, I can't always make out the dialog. It has to be properly enunciated. So I always listen to tv with CC on and I really miss it when it's not an option.

entropy13 · 04-03-2012, 10:31 AM

Watched the first ep and it seems the "wildlings" or White Walkers are humanoid, but eerily reminds me of the phaerimm (thought to have been extinct for thousands of years) when the Shaar Wall was breached near Evereska. While the Dothraki are similar to the orcs under Obould Many-Arrows, or the various barbarians north of Waterdeep.

yogurt_21 · 04-03-2012, 08:59 PM

I'll just leave this here.

Chevalr1c · 04-03-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BumbleBee

hehe Arya is cute

Sure she is, as she was in season 1 ("And I don't want to be a lady.")

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Originally Posted by m1dg3t

She's a lil' young for my taste's, i prefer women as opposed to girl's. Especially girl's that look like boy's lol

Bumblebee did not say "hot" or "attractive", she said "cute".

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Originally Posted by m1dg3t

I'm surprised she managed to escape and that guy she's with is going to end up being someone important i think? Hopefully she/they can get back to the north OK

Spoiler, Entropy13 better doesn't read this (just highlight the text to read it):

Gandry (I might misspell it) is a bastard of Robert Baratheon (he worked for that smith first, whom was visited by Ned Stark and John Arryn) and therefore his head will roll if Geoffrey and Cersei manage to catch him. And so were those babies and dark-haired boys at Peter Baelish's brothel, which have been slaughtered in se2ep1. BTW, Gandry says himself, somewhere at the end of season 1, that "my master got sick of me" when he meets Arya, so I think that the smith he worked for had seen it coming and sent him away.
In the North they would not be save however, because they would probably be tracked down thereto. I don't know what will happen to Gandry, but because I accidentally read spoiler at wikipedia I can say that the Braavosi sword trainer of season one is a good hint for the location she will end up at.

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Originally Posted by twilyth

I'm about a third of the way through it (keep jumping back and forth between GOT and green lantern), but I'm bummed since the rip doesn't have closed captioning. Even though my hearing is fine, I can't always make out the dialog. It has to be properly enunciated. So I always listen to tv with CC on and I really miss it when it's not an option.

Because English is my second language I get your idea, sometimes I have to backtrack a little in order to give me a second chance (and sometimes I need to, because I had a laugh and missed a few words). But I might just buy the DVDs to solve that, watching it on RTL when they start broadcasting the series is too inconvenient for me, as it will take time until they actually will (they have purchased the rights) and as I don't have a recorder I will be too limited to the broadcasting times that way.

Screaming Beaver · 04-03-2012, 11:20 PM

that comic is so wrong...

watched episode 2, i feel so glad that i've read the books, only getting an overview of the masterpiece that is the work of GRRM.

WhiteNoise · 04-04-2012, 08:44 PM

I'm nearing the end of the 3rd book in the series. All I can say is this is by far the best screen adaption of a book that I have seen.

entropy13 · 04-05-2012, 09:24 AM

Finally finished season one and the first two episodes of season two.

ninkobei · 04-05-2012, 01:25 PM

Where are you guys finding Ep 2 at? is it in HD? afaik it hasn't even aired yet

twilyth · 04-05-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ninkobei

Where are you guys finding Ep 2 at? is it in HD? afaik it hasn't even aired yet

Bubblebee said it was "on the internet", so I checked usenet and it happened to be there. Shit generally is within an hour or two of it showing up virtually anywhere else in the world.

http://www.binsearch.info/index.php?...&hideposter=on

edit: but these aren't the same files as the other day, so I suspect that there is a furious cat and mouse game going on with DMCA notices buzzing around like flies at an all you can eat shit bar.

04-02-2012, 05:32 PM	#51
entropy13 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 4,451 Thanks: 79 Thanked 4,448 Times in 1,490 Posts Dislikes: 21 Disliked 171 Times in 144 Posts	Looks like a show about a typical playthrough of Crusader Kings II. LOLOLOL "Houses" fighting for the Iron Throne: Noble families of the various kingdoms of Europe. "Two threats" outside of the Seven Kingdoms: Muslims and Mongols (albeit the Muslims are in the south and Mongols would suddenly come from the east with their uber powerful units). __________________ "Sir, we're surrounded!" "Good! We can attack in any direction!" ------- "Io credo ch'ei credette ch'io credesse." - "I think perhaps he thought that I was thinking." ------- "I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not sure." Last edited by entropy13; 04-02-2012 at 05:40 PM.

04-02-2012, 07:37 PM	#52
Chevalr1c Another GN moderator Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Tilburg, The Netherlands Posts: 1,534 Thanks: 8,266 Thanked 708 Times in 465 Posts Dislikes: 134 Disliked 28 Times in 22 Posts	The "Houses" are noble families, I assume barons/dukes or any other high rank in the feudal system. So I think that a comparison with the British civil wars (e.g. War of the Roses) is better than comparing it with medieval Europe as a whole. Even though they are referred to as kings, they are actually dukes/barons ruling over a semi-autonomous dukedom being under rule of a king. Regarding the extra-national threats; I do not think that White Walkers are comparable to Muslims. Neither does the Dothraki religion seem like Islam, although I did not read the books yet so I am not sure (the TV series sort of ignores the religions a bit although there are references to some gods). I think that if it resembles any real religion, than the Dothraki have a faith comparable to the Mongol religion from before Timudzjin's rise to power as Genghis Khan (under his rule, there was religious freedom in order to let conquered nations keep their own religion. It was much later than that, that the Mongol Empire became Islamic and fell apart into several khanates, AFAIK). Even though you are right about the resemblance of the Dothraki to the Mongols as a people. __________________ You only buy a truck that big if your got something big to move or your dick is microscopic. - FordGT90Concept The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected. - G.K. Chesterton

04-03-2012, 12:40 AM	#53
entropy13 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 4,451 Thanks: 79 Thanked 4,448 Times in 1,490 Posts Dislikes: 21 Disliked 171 Times in 144 Posts	I did say "Crusader Kings II" so it doesn't really correspond to the War of the Roses. I doubt the War of the Roses would ever happen, although you can say that it's already happening between the de Normandie and Godwin instead of Lancaster and York. LOL __________________ "Sir, we're surrounded!" "Good! We can attack in any direction!" ------- "Io credo ch'ei credette ch'io credesse." - "I think perhaps he thought that I was thinking." ------- "I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not sure."

04-03-2012, 02:44 AM	#59
Screaming Beaver Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,918 Thanks: 831 Thanked 1,880 Times in 1,030 Posts Dislikes: 85 Disliked 27 Times in 21 Posts	GRRM has said that the plot is loosely based on the War of the Roses but just that loosely, he doesn't want any direct historical parallels wait episode 2 is up? its not airing until Sunday... __________________ Matt Taibbi Quotes Morality is so trite You know what, Mike Bloomberg? FCK YOU* ...In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.

04-03-2012, 02:48 AM	#61
Screaming Beaver Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,918 Thanks: 831 Thanked 1,880 Times in 1,030 Posts Dislikes: 85 Disliked 27 Times in 21 Posts	ugh downloading... i don't have good virus protection so think i'll wait so i can watch streaming, was linked to a site that put up the new ep less than a half hour after airing __________________ Matt Taibbi Quotes Morality is so trite You know what, Mike Bloomberg? FCK YOU* ...In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.

04-03-2012, 01:48 AM	#54
BumbleBee Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cybertron aka Canada Posts: 8,339 Thanks: 2,300 Thanked 5,458 Times in 3,365 Posts Dislikes: 104 Disliked 79 Times in 62 Posts	sweet episode 2 is up

04-03-2012, 02:28 AM	#56
twilyth Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,285 Thanks: 7,404 Thanked 5,596 Times in 3,291 Posts Dislikes: 165 Disliked 124 Times in 107 Posts	Done. Oh, this is so cool. Heeheeheeheeheehee!!!!

04-03-2012, 02:31 AM	#57
BumbleBee Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cybertron aka Canada Posts: 8,339 Thanks: 2,300 Thanked 5,458 Times in 3,365 Posts Dislikes: 104 Disliked 79 Times in 62 Posts	hmmm

04-03-2012, 02:54 AM	#62
twilyth Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,285 Thanks: 7,404 Thanked 5,596 Times in 3,291 Posts Dislikes: 165 Disliked 124 Times in 107 Posts	i go through a secure vpn and all that happens behind the scenes. Plus I use newsbin which can't really be hacked. Same for GomPlayer.

04-03-2012, 04:45 AM	#63
BumbleBee Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cybertron aka Canada Posts: 8,339 Thanks: 2,300 Thanked 5,458 Times in 3,365 Posts Dislikes: 104 Disliked 79 Times in 62 Posts	dew dew dew dew dew /hums intro

04-03-2012, 04:54 AM	#64
m1dg3t Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brampton Posts: 3,834 Thanks: 4,974 Thanked 1,881 Times in 1,331 Posts Dislikes: 0 Disliked 89 Times in 74 Posts	^^ LOL yesterday's episode was to frickin' short! There was a lot going on for the first episode of the season IMO it would have been nice/better to stretch the story out a bit, guess i'm just sloooooooooooow

04-03-2012, 05:18 AM	#65
BumbleBee Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cybertron aka Canada Posts: 8,339 Thanks: 2,300 Thanked 5,458 Times in 3,365 Posts Dislikes: 104 Disliked 79 Times in 62 Posts	hehe Arya is cute

04-03-2012, 08:21 AM	#67
twilyth Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,285 Thanks: 7,404 Thanked 5,596 Times in 3,291 Posts Dislikes: 165 Disliked 124 Times in 107 Posts	I'm about a third of the way through it (keep jumping back and forth between GOT and green lantern), but I'm bummed since the rip doesn't have closed captioning. Even though my hearing is fine, I can't always make out the dialog. It has to be properly enunciated. So I always listen to tv with CC on and I really miss it when it's not an option.

04-03-2012, 10:31 AM	#68
entropy13 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 4,451 Thanks: 79 Thanked 4,448 Times in 1,490 Posts Dislikes: 21 Disliked 171 Times in 144 Posts	Watched the first ep and it seems the "wildlings" or White Walkers are humanoid, but eerily reminds me of the phaerimm (thought to have been extinct for thousands of years) when the Shaar Wall was breached near Evereska. While the Dothraki are similar to the orcs under Obould Many-Arrows, or the various barbarians north of Waterdeep. __________________ "Sir, we're surrounded!" "Good! We can attack in any direction!" ------- "Io credo ch'ei credette ch'io credesse." - "I think perhaps he thought that I was thinking." ------- "I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not sure." Last edited by entropy13; 04-03-2012 at 10:47 AM.

04-03-2012, 08:59 PM	#69
yogurt_21 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 3,457 Thanks: 7,331 Thanked 1,661 Times in 990 Posts Dislikes: 69 Disliked 20 Times in 17 Posts	I'll just leave this here. __________________ 1 WITCH. Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd. 2 WITCH. Thrice and once, the hedge-pig whin'd. 3 WITCH. Harpier cries:—'tis time! 'tis time! 1 WITCH. Round about the caldron go; In the poison'd entrails throw.— Toad, that under cold stone, Days and nights has thirty-one; Swelter'd venom sleeping got, Boil thou first i' the charmed pot! ALL. Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble.

04-03-2012, 11:20 PM	#71
Screaming Beaver Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,918 Thanks: 831 Thanked 1,880 Times in 1,030 Posts Dislikes: 85 Disliked 27 Times in 21 Posts	that comic is so wrong... watched episode 2, i feel so glad that i've read the books, only getting an overview of the masterpiece that is the work of GRRM. __________________ Matt Taibbi Quotes Morality is so trite You know what, Mike Bloomberg? FCK YOU* ...In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.

04-04-2012, 08:44 PM	#72
WhiteNoise Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 594 Thanks: 820 Thanked 325 Times in 162 Posts Dislikes: 23 Disliked 1 Time in 1 Post	I'm nearing the end of the 3rd book in the series. All I can say is this is by far the best screen adaption of a book that I have seen.

04-05-2012, 09:24 AM	#73
entropy13 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 4,451 Thanks: 79 Thanked 4,448 Times in 1,490 Posts Dislikes: 21 Disliked 171 Times in 144 Posts	Finally finished season one and the first two episodes of season two. __________________ "Sir, we're surrounded!" "Good! We can attack in any direction!" ------- "Io credo ch'ei credette ch'io credesse." - "I think perhaps he thought that I was thinking." ------- "I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not sure."

04-05-2012, 01:25 PM	#74
ninkobei Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 518 Thanks: 97 Thanked 298 Times in 138 Posts Dislikes: 5 Disliked 11 Times in 9 Posts	Where are you guys finding Ep 2 at? is it in HD? afaik it hasn't even aired yet

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