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cdawall · 06-14-2012, 06:15 AM

Picked up a 2012 Ford Escape today. Pretty nice little SUV. Its just an XLS, but has a stick

I'm pretty excited and the wife loves it. Only bad thing so far is its a stick so relearning that myself and having to teach the wife sucks.

JC316 · 06-14-2012, 08:03 AM

Nice. Good little SUV's. Driving stick is easy, you should pick it up easily. Pics.

cdawall · 06-14-2012, 07:15 PM

I'm doing good with the stick now the wife still has some issues, but she is learning. Her thing is she panics when it rolls back a little on hills.

I like it so far and even with learning a stick its getting about 22-23MPG according to its calculator thing.

JC316 · 06-14-2012, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cdawall

I'm doing good with the stick now the wife still has some issues, but she is learning. Her thing is she panics when it rolls back a little on hills.

http://img.techpowerup.org/120614/20...-05-04_548.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/120614/20...-04-51_536.jpg

I like it so far and even with learning a stick its getting about 22-23MPG according to its calculator thing.

Nice stuff. The rollback on hills is what freaks everyone out. Tell her to pull the parking brake on hills until she gets used to taking off smoothly. Helped my sister out tremendously.

cdawall · 06-14-2012, 08:07 PM

Parking brake is like a truck its on the floor not a hand lever. So its a pain I have just been parking her on the driveway and trying to get her to hold it.

JC316 · 06-14-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cdawall

Parking brake is like a truck its on the floor not a hand lever. So its a pain I have just been parking her on the driveway and trying to get her to hold it.

Ah, crap. I thought the escape had them up on the console like a car. My first hill experience was a do or die moment. I was on a steep hill, the car wasn't in my name, was out of license and inspection and of all things, a friggin cop pulled up RIGHT behind me.

Now, give it too much gas and burn off and the cop pulls me over and proceeds to give me several tickets. Let it roll back, same result, but with an additional ticket for hitting him. Stall and look like an idiot.

I took off like a seasoned pro and never feared a hill again.

WhiteLotus · 06-14-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JC316

Ah, crap. I thought the escape had them up on the console like a car. My first hill experience was a do or die moment. I was on a steep hill, the car wasn't in my name, was out of license and inspection and of all things, a friggin cop pulled up RIGHT behind me.

Now, give it too much gas and burn off and the cop pulls me over and proceeds to give me several tickets. Let it roll back, same result, but with an additional ticket for hitting him. Stall and look like an idiot.

I took off like a seasoned pro and never feared a hill again.

Got to love that sweet spot. Where you can balance the car on the clutch, no brake or gas required.

Destroys your clutch after a while, but feels damn good.

JC316 · 06-14-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

Got to love that sweet spot. Where you can balance the car on the clutch, no brake or gas required.

Destroys your clutch after a while, but feels damn good.

Yeah, it destroys the clutch big time, but it is an awesome feeling.

de.das.dude · 06-14-2012, 09:36 PM

on a hill with a stick shift you just need to put your right foot at 90degrees and on the acc and the brake at the same time. heel on the acc. toes on the brake.

it takes a lot of stalling and getting used to

JC316 · 06-14-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

on a hill with a stick shift you just need to put your right foot at 90degrees and on the acc and the brake at the same time. heel on the acc. toes on the brake.

it takes a lot of stalling and getting used to

And for a beginner, that is a great way to get into a wreck. Panic and let off the clutch, you go into traffic, panic and let off the brake and you go backwards into the car behind you.

Personally, I go clutch in, right foot on brake, then when the light changes, I quickly go right foot on the gas and left foot releasing the clutch. With that method, I barely roll at all.

cdawall · 06-14-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JC316

And for a beginner, that is a great way to get into a wreck. Panic and let off the clutch, you go into traffic, panic and let off the brake and you go backwards into the car behind you.

Personally, I go clutch in, right foot on brake, then when the light changes, I quickly go right foot on the gas and left foot releasing the clutch. With that method, I barely roll at all.

Same thing I do and exactly how I'm teaching my wife.

WhiteNoise · 06-22-2012, 05:36 PM

When i was 14 my Dad took me out in his International Scout and parked on a hill. He told me to take the drivers seat. Once I did he instructed me what to do and after rolling back several times I got it. He patted my back and said I was ready to drive. lol

_JP_ · 06-22-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JC316

Personally, I go clutch in, right foot on brake, then when the light changes, I quickly go right foot on the gas and left foot releasing the clutch. With that method, I barely roll at all.

Same here.
Although I've stalled the engine quite a couple of times when I'm driving a car with a small block and the AC is on.
You really notice the lack of power.
If the car has a diesel engine...it's way easier...

Wile E · 07-08-2012, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

on a hill with a stick shift you just need to put your right foot at 90degrees and on the acc and the brake at the same time. heel on the acc. toes on the brake.

it takes a lot of stalling and getting used to

Most cars in America have pedal setups that do not allow for heel-toeing. To avoid lawsuits, the pedals are too far apart, or are at too different of a height to do it. You just have to learn to be quick.

_JP_ · 07-08-2012, 11:11 AM

Lawsuits for having the pedals too close? What?!

WhiteLotus · 07-08-2012, 11:44 AM

It sounds weird to hear Americans talking about driving manual cars. Just sounds like a complete novelty, at least here in the UK everyone drives manual so it just sounds completely alien to hear people driving it for the first time.

Wile E · 07-12-2012, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by _JP_

Lawsuits for having the pedals too close? What?!

Two words: "Accidental acceleration"

AKA: Fucking morons ruining it for the rest of us.

Thankfully, my Sentra Spec V does not have this problem. I heel-toe all the time. Downshifting to slow not only saves my brakes, but the rev matching during downshift saves my clutch. Win-win. I have the original 130k mile clutch in my car, still with zero slippage when I get on it hard.

1Kurgan1 · 07-12-2012, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by _JP_

Lawsuits for having the pedals too close? What?!

It's not just a US thing either.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/200...with-big-feet/

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"A German judge has ordered a Volvo dealer to compensate a man with big feet because there was not enough space around his new car's accelerator pedal, a court spokesman said Monday.

cdawall · 07-12-2012, 02:42 PM

About to take the escape on an 18Hr road trip to Vegas

_JP_ · 07-21-2012, 04:37 PM

Y-yeah....That too...

/walks away

brandonwh64 · 07-28-2012, 05:46 PM

We have a 2003 ford escape XLT and it has a DOHC 3.0L. It is a nice SUV to be a front wheel drive.

06-14-2012, 06:15 AM	#1
cdawall Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: some AF base Posts: 1,518 Thanks: 32 Thanked 658 Times in 377 Posts Dislikes: 7 Disliked 36 Times in 31 Posts	new car Picked up a 2012 Ford Escape today. Pretty nice little SUV. Its just an XLS, but has a stick I'm pretty excited and the wife loves it. Only bad thing so far is its a stick so relearning that myself and having to teach the wife sucks.

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de.das.dude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 8,539 Thanks: 3,338 Thanked 77 Times in 54 Posts Dislikes: 256 Disliked 740 Times in 518 Posts	on a hill with a stick shift you just need to put your right foot at 90degrees and on the acc and the brake at the same time. heel on the acc. toes on the brake. it takes a lot of stalling and getting used to __________________ ……..…../´¯/)……….. (\¯`\ …………/….//……….. …\\….\ ………../….//………… ….\\….\ …../´¯/…./´¯\………../¯ `\….\¯`\ .././…/…./…./.\|_……_\| .\….\….\…\.\.. (.(….(….(…./.)..)..(..(. \….)….)….).) .\…………….\/…/….\. ..\/……………./ ..\…………….. /……..\……………..…/ ….\…………..(………. ..)……………./

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JC316 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 5,729 Thanks: 904 Thanked 3,579 Times in 1,834 Posts Dislikes: 9 Disliked 15 Times in 14 Posts	Nice. Good little SUV's. Driving stick is easy, you should pick it up easily. Pics.

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cdawall Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: some AF base Posts: 1,518 Thanks: 32 Thanked 658 Times in 377 Posts Dislikes: 7 Disliked 36 Times in 31 Posts	I'm doing good with the stick now the wife still has some issues, but she is learning. Her thing is she panics when it rolls back a little on hills. I like it so far and even with learning a stick its getting about 22-23MPG according to its calculator thing.

06-14-2012, 08:07 PM	#5
cdawall Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: some AF base Posts: 1,518 Thanks: 32 Thanked 658 Times in 377 Posts Dislikes: 7 Disliked 36 Times in 31 Posts	Parking brake is like a truck its on the floor not a hand lever. So its a pain I have just been parking her on the driveway and trying to get her to hold it.

06-22-2012, 05:36 PM	#12
WhiteNoise Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 596 Thanks: 824 Thanked 326 Times in 163 Posts Dislikes: 25 Disliked 1 Time in 1 Post	When i was 14 my Dad took me out in his International Scout and parked on a hill. He told me to take the drivers seat. Once I did he instructed me what to do and after rolling back several times I got it. He patted my back and said I was ready to drive. lol

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_JP_ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Debtugal Posts: 2,401 Thanks: 6,646 Thanked 2,341 Times in 992 Posts Dislikes: 85 Disliked 12 Times in 10 Posts	Lawsuits for having the pedals too close? What?!

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WhiteLotus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,694 Thanks: 428 Thanked 1,709 Times in 1,042 Posts Dislikes: 31 Disliked 54 Times in 47 Posts	It sounds weird to hear Americans talking about driving manual cars. Just sounds like a complete novelty, at least here in the UK everyone drives manual so it just sounds completely alien to hear people driving it for the first time.

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cdawall Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: some AF base Posts: 1,518 Thanks: 32 Thanked 658 Times in 377 Posts Dislikes: 7 Disliked 36 Times in 31 Posts	About to take the escape on an 18Hr road trip to Vegas

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_JP_ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Debtugal Posts: 2,401 Thanks: 6,646 Thanked 2,341 Times in 992 Posts Dislikes: 85 Disliked 12 Times in 10 Posts	Y-yeah....That too... /walks away

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brandonwh64 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 439 Thanks: 104 Thanked 257 Times in 140 Posts Dislikes: 26 Disliked 16 Times in 10 Posts	We have a 2003 ford escape XLT and it has a DOHC 3.0L. It is a nice SUV to be a front wheel drive.

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