2012 Race to the White House

FordGT90Concept · 07-11-2012, 06:16 PM

Married individuals are more likely to vote for Romney. Unmarried individuals are more likely to vote for Obama. It's about a 15% difference for both:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ion/?hpt=hp_t2

That spread is wider than women vs. men.

erocker · 07-11-2012, 06:29 PM

I am divorced and voting for Ron Paul.

Hate_Camel · 07-11-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by erocker

I am divorced and voting for Ron Paul.

Thank you, I would if I could.

yogurt_21 · 07-11-2012, 07:41 PM

its actually ironic when you think about it, Obama's family status puts him closer to the struggles of the average american family than Romney whose children have long been out of the house.

it was the same with McCain vs Obama in 2008.

FordGT90Concept · 07-11-2012, 08:11 PM

It might have something to do with Republicans vs. Democrats and marriage:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/121571/ma...ification.aspx

Democrats are less likely to be religious. Marriage is a religious institution so, it probably has more to do with party affiliation than candidate running.

Ha, if you are "living with a domestic partner" you are very, very unlikely to be a Republican (12%).

Also, if you're non-white, married or not, you're not likely to be a Republican.

yogurt_21 · 07-11-2012, 10:18 PM

wow 34% independant, Now how come we can only get candidates from 2 parties when over a third of america (if the poll holds true) is independant?

jmcslob · 07-11-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

It might have something to do with Republicans vs. Democrats and marriage:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/121571/ma...ification.aspx

Democrats are less likely to be religious. Marriage is a religious institution so, it probably has more to do with party affiliation than candidate running.

Ha, if you are "living with a domestic partner" you are very, very unlikely to be a Republican (12%).

Also, if you're non-white, married or not, you're not likely to be a Republican.

I got married...I'm not religious...Marriage has Absofuckinlutely nothing to do with religion....Marriage or another form of it predates mans invention of a GOD...Ive been hearing that same argument or suggestion of what marriage is from Republicans for about a year now....Makes me wonder how many "Talking Points" they've had for so many to keep repeating that it's a "Religious" thing...

Marriage is a binding contract between 2 people that's registered with the state....no religion of any kind is required.

FordGT90Concept · 07-11-2012, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by yogurt_21

wow 34% independant, Now how come we can only get candidates from 2 parties when over a third of america (if the poll holds true) is independant?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/151943/re...ependents.aspx

People are growing pessimistic about the two-party system, apparently.

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Originally Posted by jmcslob

I got married...I'm not religious...Marriage has Absofuckinlutely nothing to do with religion....Marriage or another form of it predates mans invention of a GOD...Ive been hearing that same argument or suggestion of what marriage is from Republicans for about a year now....Makes me wonder how many "Talking Points" they've had for so many to keep repeating that it's a "Religious" thing...

Marriage is a binding contract between 2 people that's registered with the state....no religion of any kind is required.

People who are devotely religious believe that a marriage is not nullable. Once they enter a marriage, they are very unlikely to leave it until "death do us part." I'm not going to get into it anymore than that because it's very off-topic.

Like or not, there's a direct correlation there:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/148274/re...align-gop.aspx

Magibeg · 07-12-2012, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by yogurt_21

wow 34% independant, Now how come we can only get candidates from 2 parties when over a third of america (if the poll holds true) is independant?

In Canada we have multiple parties, currently the majority government is run by the conservatives who got roughly that many votes. If you do get multiple parties I hope you can avoid the problems we have.

theJesus · 07-12-2012, 01:31 AM

Why do people even pay attention to this stuff? It's not like any of your votes make a difference. The results are predetermined.

FordGT90Concept · 07-12-2012, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by theJesus

Why do people even pay attention to this stuff? It's not like any of your votes make a difference. The results are predetermined.

Oh really? Pray tell me, who is going to win the Presidential race? Who is going to be the majority leader in the Senate? Who will be the Speaker of the House? If the results are predetermined, you should be able to answer all those questions definitively.

theJesus · 07-12-2012, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Oh really? Pray tell me, who is going to win the Presidential race? Who is going to be the majority leader in the Senate? Who will be the Speaker of the House? If the results are predetermined, you should be able to answer all those questions definitively.

Why should I be able to answer them? I'm not the one making those determinations. Ask the guys with the money.

DannibusX · 07-12-2012, 02:30 AM

Why do you have to bring race into this, Ford?

FordGT90Concept · 07-12-2012, 12:38 PM

Hehehe...

And now I shall! Romney gets booed while speaking at NAACP. Obama is not going to speak at the NAACP, Biden is going in his sted. According to the presidential schedule, Obama's day (yesterday, the day Romney spoke) was wide open except for a daily briefing.

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Why should I be able to answer them? I'm not the one making those determinations. Ask the guys with the money.

You apparently know these "guys." What's their names?

Jizzler · 07-12-2012, 04:02 PM

Well they didn't poll me. Seems that I'm the complete opposite of their findings.

Married young (at City Hall) and care much more about social issues than the economy and health care.

FordGT90Concept · 07-12-2012, 05:54 PM

They only interviewed >20,000 for each. That's actually a lot more than norm (usually about 1,000). You're simply in the minority.

theJesus · 07-12-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

You apparently know these "guys." What's their names?

Do you think I'm stupid? I'm not gonna risk getting myself whacked by just handing out confidential info like that.

SK-1 · 07-12-2012, 11:35 PM

Late Thursday evening, Mitt Romney's presidential campaign launched a new fundraising drive, 'Meet The VP' -- just as Romney himself has narrowed the field of candidates to a handful, sources reveal.

And a surprise name is now near the top of the list: Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice!

The timing of the announcement is now set for 'coming weeks'.

MORE

It was Condi who received two standing ovations at Romney's Utah retreat a few weeks ago, and everyone left with her name on their lips.

Rice made an extended argument for American leadership in the world.

In recent days, she emailed supporters.

"2012 is perhaps a turning point for the United States," she warned.

"The upcoming elections loom as one of the most important in my lifetime. I'm very often asked to speak about our current foreign policy and the challenges that lie before us. However, we, as a country, are not going to be able to address any of those international challenges unless we first get our domestic house in order."

m1dg3t · 07-12-2012, 11:43 PM

Mitts tryon to get a few "black" votes, are voters seriously that dumb?

LOL

SK-1 · 07-12-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by m1dg3t

Mitts tryon to get a few "black" votes, are voters seriously that dumb?

LOL

They were dumb enough to vote OBAMA...so to answer your question... Fuck yes.

FordGT90Concept · 07-12-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m1dg3t

Mitts tryon to get a few "black" votes, are voters seriously that dumb?

LOL

Unlike Obama, Condi is more than qualified to be President. If that's his pick, I applaud him for it.

Screaming Beaver · 07-13-2012, 12:49 AM

I very much doubt that Romney will touch anything that was near the Bush Administration, last thing he needs is ties to Dubya to rouse the Democrat base. Besides, having a black on the ticket won't do him any more good than McCain had with women for Sarah Palin. Of course Condi Rice isn't a complete fucking moron but still... people aren't THAT shallow. Obama will keep the black vote and most of women probably, unmarried ones anyway.

FordGT90Concept · 07-13-2012, 01:00 AM

Indeed, that's a huge strike against her. Then again, I think she would give a very firey retort if someone attacked her with a Dubya line.

And you're right about the African American vote. They tend to vote Democrat anyway so a Condi pick wouldn't sway that many votes.

And you're right about women voters. Married statistically go with Republicans and unmarried statistically go with Democrats. The decision may sway some votes but probably not enough to matter.

She is a do-no-harm VP pick though. She's likely to lose as many votes as she gains and doesn't really shore up any states. I think the bottom line is he won't pick her. I'd be shocked if he did.

DannibusX · 07-13-2012, 05:42 AM

I'd vote for Condi if she was running for the presidency. I think she's good people.

FordGT90Concept · 07-13-2012, 06:18 AM

I dunno where she stands on a lot of issues so...I wouldn't go that far, yet. I don't think much dirt has been dug up on her because she was always appointed rather than running. If she did become VP (all the dirt brought forward by the other side and survived), I wouldn't have any problem voting for her as president.

07-11-2012, 06:16 PM	#1
FordGT90Concept Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: IA, USA Posts: 18,488 Thanks: 5,044 Thanked 5,008 Times in 3,415 Posts Dislikes: 133 Disliked 139 Times in 129 Posts	2012 Race to the White House Married individuals are more likely to vote for Romney. Unmarried individuals are more likely to vote for Obama. It's about a 15% difference for both: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ion/?hpt=hp_t2 That spread is wider than women vs. men. __________________ Doc, note: I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod. . --Professor Peter Hilton

07-11-2012, 07:41 PM	#4
yogurt_21 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 3,452 Thanks: 7,321 Thanked 1,655 Times in 987 Posts Dislikes: 69 Disliked 20 Times in 17 Posts	its actually ironic when you think about it, Obama's family status puts him closer to the struggles of the average american family than Romney whose children have long been out of the house. it was the same with McCain vs Obama in 2008. __________________ 1 WITCH. Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd. 2 WITCH. Thrice and once, the hedge-pig whin'd. 3 WITCH. Harpier cries:—'tis time! 'tis time! 1 WITCH. Round about the caldron go; In the poison'd entrails throw.— Toad, that under cold stone, Days and nights has thirty-one; Swelter'd venom sleeping got, Boil thou first i' the charmed pot! ALL. Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble.

07-11-2012, 08:11 PM	#5
FordGT90Concept Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: IA, USA Posts: 18,488 Thanks: 5,044 Thanked 5,008 Times in 3,415 Posts Dislikes: 133 Disliked 139 Times in 129 Posts	It might have something to do with Republicans vs. Democrats and marriage: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121571/ma...ification.aspx Democrats are less likely to be religious. Marriage is a religious institution so, it probably has more to do with party affiliation than candidate running. Ha, if you are "living with a domestic partner" you are very, very unlikely to be a Republican (12%). Also, if you're non-white, married or not, you're not likely to be a Republican. __________________ Doc, note: I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod. . --Professor Peter Hilton Last edited by FordGT90Concept; 07-11-2012 at 08:14 PM.

07-11-2012, 10:18 PM	#6
yogurt_21 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 3,452 Thanks: 7,321 Thanked 1,655 Times in 987 Posts Dislikes: 69 Disliked 20 Times in 17 Posts	wow 34% independant, Now how come we can only get candidates from 2 parties when over a third of america (if the poll holds true) is independant? __________________ 1 WITCH. Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd. 2 WITCH. Thrice and once, the hedge-pig whin'd. 3 WITCH. Harpier cries:—'tis time! 'tis time! 1 WITCH. Round about the caldron go; In the poison'd entrails throw.— Toad, that under cold stone, Days and nights has thirty-one; Swelter'd venom sleeping got, Boil thou first i' the charmed pot! ALL. Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble.

07-12-2012, 01:31 AM	#10
theJesus Abusive nutcase moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Where the broken things are Posts: 18,998 Thanks: 21,219 Thanked 8,834 Times in 5,597 Posts Dislikes: 446 Disliked 194 Times in 169 Posts	Why do people even pay attention to this stuff? It's not like any of your votes make a difference. The results are predetermined. __________________ "Oh come on. Quit making excuses already. Even in a weird position, and doing it manualy, it only takes a couple of minutes. You are just being OCD about it or something." - Wile E "OMG the chair I'm sitting on! It has a penus!! " - Black Panther "Signatures should not contain quotes. It makes no sense." - DanTheBanjoman I doesnt afraid of anything!

07-11-2012, 06:29 PM	#2
erocker Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,777 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 4,227 Times in 2,001 Posts Dislikes: 94 Disliked 46 Times in 40 Posts	I am divorced and voting for Ron Paul.

07-12-2012, 02:30 AM	#13
DannibusX Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,073 Thanks: 486 Thanked 1,817 Times in 929 Posts Dislikes: 19 Disliked 31 Times in 25 Posts	Why do you have to bring race into this, Ford?

07-12-2012, 04:02 PM	#15
Jizzler Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Geneva, Florida, USA Posts: 521 Thanks: 109 Thanked 300 Times in 183 Posts Dislikes: 4 Disliked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Well they didn't poll me. Seems that I'm the complete opposite of their findings. Married young (at City Hall) and care much more about social issues than the economy and health care.

07-12-2012, 05:54 PM	#16
FordGT90Concept Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: IA, USA Posts: 18,488 Thanks: 5,044 Thanked 5,008 Times in 3,415 Posts Dislikes: 133 Disliked 139 Times in 129 Posts	They only interviewed >20,000 for each. That's actually a lot more than norm (usually about 1,000). You're simply in the minority. __________________ Doc, note: I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod. . --Professor Peter Hilton

07-12-2012, 11:43 PM	#19
m1dg3t Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brampton Posts: 3,834 Thanks: 4,974 Thanked 1,881 Times in 1,331 Posts Dislikes: 0 Disliked 89 Times in 74 Posts	Mitts tryon to get a few "black" votes, are voters seriously that dumb? LOL

07-13-2012, 12:49 AM	#22
Screaming Beaver Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,916 Thanks: 828 Thanked 1,880 Times in 1,030 Posts Dislikes: 85 Disliked 27 Times in 21 Posts	I very much doubt that Romney will touch anything that was near the Bush Administration, last thing he needs is ties to Dubya to rouse the Democrat base. Besides, having a black on the ticket won't do him any more good than McCain had with women for Sarah Palin. Of course Condi Rice isn't a complete fucking moron but still... people aren't THAT shallow. Obama will keep the black vote and most of women probably, unmarried ones anyway. __________________ Matt Taibbi Quotes Morality is so trite You know what, Mike Bloomberg? FCK YOU* ...In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.

07-13-2012, 01:00 AM	#23
FordGT90Concept Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: IA, USA Posts: 18,488 Thanks: 5,044 Thanked 5,008 Times in 3,415 Posts Dislikes: 133 Disliked 139 Times in 129 Posts	Indeed, that's a huge strike against her. Then again, I think she would give a very firey retort if someone attacked her with a Dubya line. And you're right about the African American vote. They tend to vote Democrat anyway so a Condi pick wouldn't sway that many votes. And you're right about women voters. Married statistically go with Republicans and unmarried statistically go with Democrats. The decision may sway some votes but probably not enough to matter. She is a do-no-harm VP pick though. She's likely to lose as many votes as she gains and doesn't really shore up any states. I think the bottom line is he won't pick her. I'd be shocked if he did. __________________ Doc, note: I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod. . --Professor Peter Hilton

07-13-2012, 05:42 AM	#24
DannibusX Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,073 Thanks: 486 Thanked 1,817 Times in 929 Posts Dislikes: 19 Disliked 31 Times in 25 Posts	I'd vote for Condi if she was running for the presidency. I think she's good people.

07-13-2012, 06:18 AM	#25
FordGT90Concept Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: IA, USA Posts: 18,488 Thanks: 5,044 Thanked 5,008 Times in 3,415 Posts Dislikes: 133 Disliked 139 Times in 129 Posts	I dunno where she stands on a lot of issues so...I wouldn't go that far, yet. I don't think much dirt has been dug up on her because she was always appointed rather than running. If she did become VP (all the dirt brought forward by the other side and survived), I wouldn't have any problem voting for her as president. __________________ Doc, note: I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod. . --Professor Peter Hilton

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